My cutting diet.. need some opinions here.

[JChristian_1]

7:00Aminos (Now Sports 1600mg L-Leucine
800mg L-Isoleucine
800mg L-Valine)
750mg CLA, 10CAL, 1G FAT
CARDIO (HIIT/MAX-OT)
7:30 5 EGG Busters 150cal, 30g protein, 5gCarb,0fat
8:30 1 cup of Oatmeal(steel cut/no sugar)190cal, 6g protein,32gcarb,4g fat
1 Banana 102 cal,1g protein,27g carb,0fat

9:00 Supplements (5gram Creatine Monohydrate
1000mg Tribulus
500mg Maca)
9:30 Lift

10:30 Post Supps, (now sports Arginine Power stack with Creatine)
60 cal,0 protein,15g carb,0 fat
(L-Arginine 600mg
L-Citruline 100mg
L-Norvaline 100mg
L-Ornithine 200mg
Creatine Monohydrate 3g,-14g
sugar/fructose) 3g Glutamine

10:30post meal Isopure Protein drink 210 cals,50g protein,0carb,0fat
5oz baked potato 180cal,4g protein,41gcarb,1gfat
11:30 Supps, CLA,4G FISH OIL 0,0, 5Gfat
Milk Thistle extract
L-Carnitine 3000mg

1:30 6oz skinless chicken breast broiled, 187cals,39protein,0 carbs, 5gfat
260g Rice and beans(brown and black) 240cals,8g protein,46gcarbo,2gfat

4:30 ON proComplex Protein shake 260cals, 54protein, 4carbs,2gfat

5:30 Fresh squeezed veggie juice 110cals,3g pro,2g carb,0gfat
supps, CLA/4G Fish oil ........5gfat
100mg Tribulus/500mg Maca

7:30 6oz Chicken or fish 187cals.39protein,0carb,5fat
mixed veggies 1(cup) 110cals, 5g pro,29gcarb,1.5g fat
Salad. 1(cup) 33cals, 2.6pro,6.7carb,0fat

10:30 ON Procomplex 1/2 shake 130cal, 27pro,2carb,1fat
.
Totals
CAL PRO CARB FAT
2159 268 210 32
Works out to be a
49%/38%/13%, pretty close to that 50/40/10 that I've heard tell of...

This of course includes roughly a gallon and a half of water daily plus my multi vitamin...
I weigh 179,5'11" with 10-11% body fat
I'm trying to cut up without losing muscle..

MY calories for the last two weeks were well below that and I lost muscle I went from 187 and 12% down to 179 and 10.5 % in two weeks and I look friggin skinny.. so this is my hopped-up new edition... please all input is greatly appreciated...
JC

[goddessamazon]

Hi JC, I'm cutting too and I looked at your diet and the only thing that see wrong is that you don't have enough healthy fat. Why are you only doing 13% fat intake? In my opinion you need more good fat in your diet.

Hopefully you're get more responses. Cutting is not a "Hot Topic" for most during the Christmas season.

[EMISGOD]

Hi JC, I'm cutting too and I looked at your diet and the only thing that see wrong is that you don't have enough healthy fat. Why are you only doing 13% fat intake? In my opinion you need more good fat in your diet.

Hopefully you're get more responses. Cutting is not a "Hot Topic" for most during the Christmas season.

I concur. I think switching the fat/carb macro percentages around would be preferable, though balancing them might be the best bet...

[JChristian_1]

Hi JC, I'm cutting too and I looked at your diet and the only thing that see wrong is that you don't have enough healthy fat. Why are you only doing 13% fat intake? In my opinion you need more good fat in your diet.

Hopefully you're get more responses. Cutting is not a "Hot Topic" for most during the Christmas season.

Thank you .. and that is true, Holidays are a weird time to cut but this is my pre-bulk, cut another 3 weeks and then it's bulk for 8 weeks, until March, then a week off, and into the next 8week sculpting... I agree about the fat, I usually take a little more fish oil than I listed, so I may up that and everyone has suggested Almonds which is my favorite snack.. two handfuls a day about 40 will do the trick.. again thanks and have a happy!

[JChristian_1]

I concur. I think switching the fat/carb macro percentages around would be preferable, though balancing them might be the best bet...

can you give me an example of what you are suggesting ?
Thanks
J

[Bob45]

How long have you been on this? Is it working so far?

[JChristian_1]

How long have you been on this? Is it working so far?

Yes it is ... a little too well actually. That diet there is an updated version allowing fully another 500 calories.. I was eating only 1700 and my muscle loss was significant. ..
here is that diet with less protein and a little more fat...

I concur. I think switching the fat/carb macro percentages around would be preferable, though balancing them might be the best bet...

7:00Aminos (Now Sports 1600mg L-Leucine
800mg L-Isoleucine
800mg L-Valine)
750mg CLA, 10CAL, 1G FAT
CARDIO (HIIT/MAX-OT)
7:30 5 EGG Busters 150cal, 30g protein, 5gCarb,0fat
8:30 1 cup of Oatmeal(steel cut/no sugar)190cal, 6g protein,32gcarb,4g fat
1 Banana 102 cal,1g protein,27g carb,0fat

9:00 Supplements (5gram Creatine Monohydrate
1000mg Tribulus
500mg Maca)
9:30 Lift

10:30 Post Supps, (now sports Arginine Power stack with Creatine)
60 cal,0 protein,15g carb,0 fat
(L-Arginine 600mg
L-Citruline 100mg
L-Norvaline 100mg
L-Ornithine 200mg
Creatine Monohydrate 3g,-14g
sugar/fructose) 3g Glutamine

10:30post meal Isopure Protein drink 210 cals,50g protein,0carb,0fat
5oz baked potato 180cal,4g protein,41gcarb,1gfat
11:30 Supps, CLA,4G FISH OIL 0,0, 5Gfat
Milk Thistle extract
L-Carnitine 3000mg

1:30 6oz skinless chicken breast broiled, 187cals,39protein,0 carbs, 5gfat
260g Rice and beans(brown and black) 240cals,8g protein,46gcarbo,2gfat

4:30 ON proComplex Protein ? shake 130cals, 27protein, 2carbs,1gfat
1 oz almonds (23 nuts) 164cals, 6gprotein, 6gcarbs, 15g fat

5:30 Fresh squeezed veggie juice 110cals,3g pro,2g carb,0gfat
supps, CLA/4G Fish oil ........5gfat
100mg Tribulus/500mg Maca

7:30 6oz Chicken or fish 187cals.39protein,0carb,5fat
mixed veggies 1(cup) 110cals, 5g pro,29gcarb,1.5g fat
Salad. 1(cup) 33cals, 2.6pro,6.7carb,0fat

10:30 ON Procomplex 1/2 shake 130cal, 27pro,2carb,1fat
.
Totals
CAL PRO CARB FAT
2258 247 214 46
Works out to be a
44%/38%/18%, closer to a 40/40/20

This of course includes roughly a gallon and a half of water daily plus my multi vitamin...
I weigh 179,5'11" with 10-11% body fat
I'm trying to cut up without losing muscle..

Is this a better balance?

[EMISGOD]

can you give me an example of what you are suggesting ?
Thanks
J

When you're talking macros, the 50% protein is fine, but 40% fat to 10% carbs is better than the inverse, as you posted it. Protein/fat/carbs at 50/30/20 or 50/25/25 tends to be more useful than 50/10/40...if you run fat too low, it tends to introduce joint lubrication problems, among other negatives. If you're cranking heavy weights, you will likely find this to be extremely detrimental.

[Shreddedgeek]

I think that you are hitting it just a little too aggressively, what is the hurry? The faster you try to loose fat the faster your going to loose LBM. Go back to your original diet prior to your changes and just knock of 300-500 calories a day, this along with your cardio will target 1~2 lbs week. Remember it takes a long time to build 1lb LBM.

[JChristian_1]

I think that you are hitting it just a little too aggressively, what is the hurry? The faster you try to loose fat the faster your going to loose LBM. Go back to your original diet prior to your changes and just knock of 300-500 calories a day, this along with your cardio will target 1~2 lbs week. Remember it takes a long time to calories, build 1lb LBM.

you are right... I was only eating about 1800 calories to begin with and when I started to cut I dropped it down to less than 1700...Eliott Darden the father of HIT basically uses this formula of 180lbs x 10 = 1800 ... I had been at 227 when I started and was eating for weight loss, when I started packing on LBM very quickly is when I realized I had some natural ability with the sport... but my eating was still focused on weight loss... hence the 1700 calories, throw in daily cardio sessions and 1700 was breaking me down in short order... revamped upped the calories and immediately felt stronger and much better with the weights... probably lost at least 2 lbs of muscle that's the bad news, the good news, I think I have a handle on it and as I am in it for the long haul.. I should be growing here while shedding the fat...
Thanks