Need advice on weight gainer - 4everfit/cytosport/UltimateMuscleJuice

[jeanmanning]

1. What makes a good blend of weight gainer?
High protein, high carb and low sugar?

2. WPI and WPC's better than those from calcium caseinate and egg white albumin?

3. Carbs from sugar's worse than those "complex carb" eh?
How to tell? seems most are not labelled in the packing.

What about this one?
4Ever Fit : Fruit Blast Isolate Gainer
- WPI and WPC., not egg, (which is good eh?)
low carb tho.
- seems great taste

I did do a 'search' on this product.
it does have good reviews, but only one or two,
probably coz its not a popular brand
more comment, pls!

CytoSport : CytoGainer
- low fat and whey petides
- Complex Carbs Only, not sure wat dat is
- No Sucrose, Fructose, or Aspartame
- 100% Whey Protein Sources

Ultimate Nutrition : Muscle Juice
- high carb, high sugar tho
- seems a popular choice?

thanks!

[jeanmanning]

and the supp. info

4Ever Fit : Fruit Blast Isolate Gainer

Supplement Facts:

Serving Size: 4 Rounded Scoops (152g)
Servings Per Container: 30

Amount Per Serving:

Calories 590
Total Fat 5g 5%
Saturated Fat 2g 10%
Cholesterol 110mg 37%
Sodium 150mg 6%
Potassium 410mg 12%
Total Carbohydrates 78g 26%
Fiber 0g
Sugars 38g
Protein 58g 116%

Vitamin A 0%
Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 40%
Iron 8%

Other Ingredients:
Whey protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, maltodextrin, citric acid, natural and artificial flavors and colors, fructose.

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CytoSport : CytoGainer

Supplement Facts:

Container Size: 6 Lbs.
Serving Size: 4 Scoops (150g)
Servings Per Container: 18

Amount Per Serving:

Calories: 620
Calories From Fat: 45
Total Fat: 5g
Saturated Fat: 3g
Cholesterol: 100mg
Sodium: 110mg
Potassium: 395mg
Total Carbohydrates: 80g
Fiber: 4g
Sugars: 5g
Protein: 56g

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Ultimate Nutrition : Muscle Juice

Supplement Facts:

Serving Size: 4 Scoops (250g)
Servings Per Container: 19

Amount Per Serving:

Calories 1021
-Calories from Fat 153
Total Fat 17g 26%
-Saturated Fat 17g 85%
Cholesterol 77mg 26%
Sodium 108mg 5%
Potassium 365mg 10%
Total Carbs 162mg 54%
-Dietary Fiber 0g
-Sugars 60g
Protein 55g 110%
Vitamin A 47IU 1%
Calcium 358mg 36%
Iron 1.5mg 8%

Ingredients:
Protein blend (whey concentrate, premium whey protein isolate, calcium caseinate, egg white albumin), maltodextrin, crystalline fructose, medium chain triglycerides and natural and artificial flavors.

[brucethejuice]

Muscle milk would be my pic if I needed a wieght gainer.

[jeanmanning]

hi bruce,

wat's muscle milk?
pardon my ignorance

[cakedonkey]

4everfit/cytosport/UltimateMuscleJuice

Nope, nope, nope.

Yep:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=552466

[gi2104]

Muscle Milk is another product from CytoSport (the same company that produce CytoGainer)

It is NOT a pure weight gainer since it contains not many carb (12g in a 75g serving)

It is manly composed by proteins (32 g per serving) but contains also 18g of fat.
However, the fat are "leanlipids": "...good fats that help you get leaner"

Overall it is a very good product and it taste very good! (i usually drink vanilla with 1% milk)

Since it contains casein it is a very good pre-bed supplement

Among the weight gainers that you listed I have just ordered CytoGainer since I was impressed by the good taste of Muscle Milk

Before that I tried N-LargeII, probably the most sold weight gainer on the market. Good product but I hope CytoGainer taste better.

Below are the Supplement fact of Mucle Milk:

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Supplement Facts:

Container Size: 2.48 Lbs
Serving Size: 2 Scoops (75g)
Servings Per Container: 15

Amount Per Serving:

Total Calories: 348
Calories From Fat: 162
Total Fat: 18 g 28%
Saturated Fat: 8 g 40%
Cholesterol: 3 mg 1%
Sodium: 200 mg 8%
Potassium: 595 mg 17%
Total Carbohydrates: 12 g 4%
Dietary Fiber: <2 g 8%
Sugars: 6 g
Protein: 32 g 64%

Vitamin A: 33%
Vitamin C: 33%
Calcium: 33%
Iron: 33%
Vitamin D: 33%
Vitamin E: 33%
Thiamin (B1): 33%
Riboflavin (B2): 33%
Niacin (B3): 33%
Pyridoxine (B6): 33%
Folic Acid: 33%
Cyanocobalamin (B12): 33%
Biotin: 33%
Pantothenic Acid: 33%
Phosphorus: 33%
Iodine: 33%
Magnesium: 33%
Zinc: 33%
Copper: 33%
Chromium: 100 mcg 33%

Ingredients: EVOPRO(TM) Our Custom Evaluation based protein, peptide, and amino acid matrix, designed to closely reflect the nitrogen components and ratios found in human mother's milk (Micellar Alpha and Beta Casiens and Cassienates, Whey concentrates, rich in Alpha-Lactalbumin, Whey Isolates, Whey Peptides, Purified Bovine Colostrum Extract rich in Secretory IgA and IGF-1, Glutamine Peptides, L-Taurine, Lactofemin). LEANLIPIDES(TM) Lipid complex selected for thermogenic and unique energy properties (Canola Oil, BETAPOL (TM) [Enzyme Engineered Polyunsaturated Long-Chain Vegetable Oils] MCT's, L-Carnitine), Maltodextrin, CYTOVITE I(TM), Vitamin and Mineral premix consisting of (Vitamin A acetate, cholecalciferol, d-alpha-tocopherol acetate, ascorbic acid, folate, thiamine monohydrate, riboflavin, niacinamide, pyrodoxine HCL, cyanocobalamine, biotin, pantothenic acid, di-calcium phosphate, potassium iodide, potassium chloride, ferrous fumerate, magnesium oxide, copper gluconate, and zinc oxide), gum arabic, ENDOCREATINE (TM) our proprietary, patent pending endogenous creatine precursor (Glycocyamine, betaine anhydrous, SAMe [S-Andenosylmethionine]), Natural and Artificial flavors, lecithin, sucralose.

Directions: Mix two scoops in 10-12 oz of water. Want even more satisfaction? Mix with low-fat milk. Tastes like a real milk shake.

[carterharris]

Muscle milk is made by Cytosport it is a very good tasting weight gainer.

(sorry Bruce)

[UberBerzerker]

Cytosport Cytogainer is my favorite as far as just gainer mixes go. Muscle milk is good, but the Cytogainer is better for all out mass gain I feel.

Taste is better with Muscle Milk, but you'll see better results with Cytogainer. Which reminds me, it's 4:30, time for my cookies'n'cream cytogainer..yummy!

[jeanmanning]

yah i am looking around and cytogainer seems to be a sound choice.
just that it's a bit expensive in the stores around my place, like CAD60 for 6lb

i was also looking for the 4everfit one, isn't it with higher WPI and thus considerable?

and what about having weight gainer with creatine (for better weight/muscle gain)?
any suggestions?