scholarship for D1 baseball?

[lovermangenuis]

i know the kid that was a projected first rounder but got drafted in the second round, turned it down and then went to unc on scholarship. he's from CT if anybody wants his name i'l get it to you. he throws low 90's

matt harvey?

[cameron33]

yall are putting way too much stress on fastball velocity..if you throw 86-88 u'll go D1 blah blah blah...are you getting results. thats what matters

[jamesh23]

yall are putting way too much stress on fastball velocity..if you throw 86-88 u'll go D1 blah blah blah...are you getting results. thats what matters

not really lol if your throwing 80 and getting outs they most likely will not look at you, today velocity is everything the coaches say you can teach control but not velocity. There was a kid who was hitting 92 I seen pitch in the state tourney but walked 5 in a row so they took him out but he got drafted anyway.

[Jhawk Fitness]

not really lol if your throwing 80 and getting outs they most likely will not look at you, today velocity is everything the coaches say you can teach control but not velocity. There was a kid who was hitting 92 I seen pitch in the state tourney but walked 5 in a row so they took him out but he got drafted anyway.

Velocity will get you looks but control and placement will keep you around. During spring training this past season I watched a prospect from Texas come in and light up the radar gun, he then proceeded to walk 4 batters in a row, hit 1, then walk 3 more before hitting another (sadly that is not an exaggeration). The coaches then came in, took him out of the game, and he was given his release a couple of hours later.

Later in the season I then saw another minor league prospect go 1-2 w/ a 4.15 ERA during rookie ball despite not being able to top 78mph.

[cameron33]

not really lol if your throwing 80 and getting outs they most likely will not look at you, today velocity is everything the coaches say you can teach control but not velocity. There was a kid who was hitting 92 I seen pitch in the state tourney but walked 5 in a row so they took him out but he got drafted anyway.

i know what your saying but if your throwing 82 and end up w/ 10-12 wins and an era of 1.5 or below...your sticking around trust me

[cosmo34]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today....php?id=503228

Rowdy Hardy. If he hit's 83 it's thanks to a 30 mph wind blowing straight in from CF.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today....php?id=502609

Danny Herrera. See above, though he does it with a nasty screwball type pitch.

These guys are more exceptions than the rule, though.

[jamesh23]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today....php?id=503228

Rowdy Hardy. If he hit's 83 it's thanks to a 30 mph wind blowing straight in from CF.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today....php?id=502609

Danny Herrera. See above, though he does it with a nasty screwball type pitch.

These guys are more exceptions than the rule, though.

First of all those are both lefties that changes everything, lefties in the majors can get away with throwing 85 because they have so much natural movement im talking RHP, I wanna see some stories of righties that are throwing 80-83 that make it to the minors or D1 and actually start.

[cosmo34]

Well aware that they are lefties and are looked at differently than righties. Just hammering home the point out that there are (some) cases of (an extreme) lack of velocity isn't a big problem for some guys.

As for a RHP not throwing overly hard, and still making it. No I don't know of any. One of the few, if any, ways to do it is to throw from a funky arm angle and get more movement than a fat chick rushing the buffet line at the Sizzler on your pitches. I.E. Chad Bradford. If you aren't a funky submariner, I'd suggest perfecting several pitches that you can pinpoint into a soup can at any given moment. For the mostpart to get looks as a RHP, you've gotta have the probably one of- body that screams "projectable", stuff that is the same, pinpoint location, or just have flat out nasty stuff that get results no matter the velocity.

You're only 15. The last thing you really need to be worrying about is whether or not you are gonna go D1. Go hit the weights, play some long toss, take care of your arm and grades, and come back when you're a senior and go from there.

[Jhawk Fitness]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today....php?id=503228

Rowdy Hardy. If he hit's 83 it's thanks to a 30 mph wind blowing straight in from CF.

Speaking as someone who knows Rowdy personally, he's easily one of the most genuinely likeable guys you will ever meet. Great underdog story as well, everyone should be a Rowdy Hardy fan.

[cosmo34]

Speaking as someone who knows Rowdy personally, he's easily one of the most genuinely likeable guys you will ever meet. Great underdog story as well, everyone should be a Rowdy Hardy fan.

Count me as one. Do have wring numbers like that out of the stuff he's got, gotta give big ups to the man.

[ArmstrongMike]

matt harvey?

yea it was matt harvey. kids from groton.

[ArmstrongMike]

i have another friend that goes to florida atlantic on scholarship to pitch. i used to catch him when i was 14 he threw 85. he's hitting 94 now he was one of the top prospects in florida as a freshman.

[cameron33]

First of all those are both lefties that changes everything, lefties in the majors can get away with throwing 85 because they have so much natural movement im talking RHP, I wanna see some stories of righties that are throwing 80-83 that make it to the minors or D1 and actually start.

you are still putting way too much stress on velocity bro. velolity will get you noticed but results keep you around...so does potential aka velocity in some cases

[stewaat]

Velocity rules all for getting looks. There are exceptions but the vast majority of people look for velocity.

The thing is that people are stupid enough to believe that they can "teach" a kid with a good arm to "pitch" like that guy sitting at 84-85 being effective.

I was one of those 86-87 RHP's who didn't get many pro looks because of my lack of velocity.

You're not putting enough stress on velocity. It is vital to getting a foot in the door.

I was 14-4 with a 3.5 ERA in my career with a low walk total and ground/fly ball ratio of about 4:1. Didn't K a ton of guys because I got them early in the count. Could I pitch pro ball...without a doubt yes. It would've been stupid because I didn't throw hard enough. How many guys do they pull up throwing mid-upper 80s?

[cameron33]

Velocity rules all for getting looks. There are exceptions but the vast majority of people look for velocity.

The thing is that people are stupid enough to believe that they can "teach" a kid with a good arm to "pitch" like that guy sitting at 84-85 being effective.

I was one of those 86-87 RHP's who didn't get many pro looks because of my lack of velocity.

You're not putting enough stress on velocity. It is vital to getting a foot in the door.

I was 14-4 with a 3.5 ERA in my career with a low walk total and ground/fly ball ratio of about 4:1. Didn't K a ton of guys because I got them early in the count. Could I pitch pro ball...without a doubt yes. It would've been stupid because I didn't throw hard enough. How many guys do they pull up throwing mid-upper 80s?

what career though? if it was in the pros, 3.5 era is respectable...anything below. you were just not good enough, i find it hard to belive that i if you could pitch pro ball w/ out a doubt you wouldnt be doing it

[cosmo34]

Velocity rules all for getting looks. There are exceptions but the vast majority of people look for velocity.

The thing is that people are stupid enough to believe that they can "teach" a kid with a good arm to "pitch" like that guy sitting at 84-85 being effective.

I wasn't gonna go there, but a valid point as nonetheless

[jgood]

Pitching .... Pitchers are a dime a dozen especially in the southern states. Its alot harder to hit a baseball off 90 than throw it (not to downplay throwing that) and on top of hitting be able to play good in the field. Thats why lots of times people who do both go to pitching because they can't hit as well as they can throw. Lefties usually have more movement and a lefty fastball going 85 can look like a righty throwing upper 80s lower 90s and thats the reason for that. If a righty has alot of movement that can be something that changes the speed especially if they mix the pitches up well (they like crafty people).

I don't like weighted balls because it feels really unnatural and frankly when you lift a lot the ball feels lighter anyways so no need to put extra stress on the rotator cuff.

[cameron33]

Pitching .... Pitchers are a dime a dozen especially in the southern states. Its alot harder to hit a baseball off 90 than throw it (not to downplay throwing that) and on top of hitting be able to play good in the field. Thats why lots of times people who do both go to pitching because they can't hit as well as they can throw.

...good joke?

[stewaat]

what career though? if it was in the pros, 3.5 era is respectable...anything below. you were just not good enough, i find it hard to belive that i if you could pitch pro ball w/ out a doubt you wouldnt be doing it

Why is it hard to believe? I don't have the passion for the game anymore. I got burned out and decided I'd rather get a job with my degree than go toil in the minor league for a couple years making nothing. If I was going to be a highly regarded prospect I would've gone.

My mom still won't even talk about it she's that upset I didn't go pro. You can believe what you want. My ERA took a hit my senior year. I was in the top 10 for my school and had a .65 ERA at the midway point of my senior year. I was on fire, it was unreal. Then everything that could've gone bad did. So my career ERA went from like 2.6 to 3.5 in the 2nd half of the season.

I'm a very realistic person and I'm not gonna sit here and say I was the best thing ever. I'm saying I could've pitched at the next level but my chances of making it to the league would've been about .0001%. I would've been a career minor leaguer, which is stupid with my degree.

[jamesh23]

I can hit waaay better than I can pitch but think of it this way, each time has a rotation of 5 pitchers they dont have 5 left fielders, or 5 short stops. Better chance to make it pitching than hitting.

[cameron33]

Why is it hard to believe? I don't have the passion for the game anymore. I got burned out and decided I'd rather get a job with my degree than go toil in the minor league for a couple years making nothing. If I was going to be a highly regarded prospect I would've gone.

My mom still won't even talk about it she's that upset I didn't go pro. You can believe what you want. My ERA took a hit my senior year. I was in the top 10 for my school and had a .65 ERA at the midway point of my senior year. I was on fire, it was unreal. Then everything that could've gone bad did. So my career ERA went from like 2.6 to 3.5 in the 2nd half of the season.

I'm a very realistic person and I'm not gonna sit here and say I was the best thing ever. I'm saying I could've pitched at the next level but my chances of making it to the league would've been about .0001%. I would've been a career minor leaguer, which is stupid with my degree.

its just hard to beleive because i have such a passion for the game right now i couldnt believe someone who had the chnace to go up in the game wouldnt do it...but in ur first post you made yourself sound much better than in the second so if you really never had a shot at the bigs i understand that decision.

[stewaat]

its just hard to beleive because i have such a passion for the game right now i couldnt believe someone who had the chnace to go up in the game wouldnt do it...but in ur first post you made yourself sound much better than in the second so if you really never had a shot at the bigs i understand that decision.

Another big factor was my shoulder. It's not 100%. I was a freshman throwing 89-90 hitting 93 and left throwing 86-87 hitting 90. I have something in there but they rode me a little too much and all the rehab in the world can only do so much.

If I would've gone pro it would've been out of high school when I was really highly scouted. I'm not complaining though, I got a great degree and that's what it's all about. Gotta have that backup plan.

My career was a great experience at a program that was in the top 5 during two of my years and being surrounded by a bunch of great guys. I didn't want to go into pro ball with a bunch of people who don't care about winning.


Oh, and where in my first post did I say I had a shot at the bigs? I said I could play pro ball, without a doubt. I still could right now if I took a couple months and got my arm back in shape. It would be stupid because I have a good job and life.

[cameron33]

Oh, and where in my first post did I say I had a shot at the bigs? I said I could play pro ball, without a doubt..

...this makes no sense...having a shot at the bigs, and having the ability to play in the bigs w/ out a doubt = the exact same thing

[jamesh23]

...this makes no sense...having a shot at the bigs, and having the ability to play in the bigs w/ out a doubt = the exact same thing

exactly but maybe he said to play pro ball which in that case could be minor leagues.. im too lazy to go back and reread it.

[stewaat]

...this makes no sense...having a shot at the bigs, and having the ability to play in the bigs w/ out a doubt = the exact same thing

Pro ball does not equal the bigs. Here are the ranks...
Rookie
Low A
High A
Extended fall ball somewhere in there
AA
AAA


I said I would be a career minor leaguer. Do you not know about pro ball? Playing in Low A classifies you as a pro ball player. I said I could play pro ball, not play in the MLB.

You know how many people play pro ball? It's a pretty damn big number. What percentage go to the MLB at all? It's pretty damn small.

Cliff notes for you...

PRO BALL does not mean MAJOR LEAGUES

[Jhawk Fitness]

Pro ball does not equal the bigs. Here are the ranks...

Rookie
Rookie Advanced
Low A
High A
AA
AAA
Majors

Fixed the levels for you...

[cameron33]

Pro ball does not equal the bigs. Here are the ranks...
Rookie
Low A
High A
Extended fall ball somewhere in there
AA
AAA


I said I would be a career minor leaguer. Do you not know about pro ball? Playing in Low A classifies you as a pro ball player. I said I could play pro ball, not play in the MLB.

You know how many people play pro ball? It's a pretty damn big number. What percentage go to the MLB at all? It's pretty damn small.

Cliff notes for you...

PRO BALL does not mean MAJOR LEAGUES

now your just saving your ass cause u know im right...its ok if ur not good enough, i forgive u

[stewaat]

Fixed the levels for you...

Thank you sir

now your just saving your ass cause u know im right...its ok if ur not good enough, i forgive u

Age: 17
Grow up

[gendrste]

Grow up. Do something first before you talk trash to another player

[cameron33]

Thank you sir



Age: 17
Grow up

dont hate the player son