Well, I don't want to completely quit working out legs - But until I get my knee checked out, I'm going to lay off the squats for a bit (might have to do the same with Deadlifts.
What is going to be the most beneficial exercise for the one leg.
I started doing single leg leg-press yesterday, but just wanted to see if there is anything else you guys can think of.
Thanks
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10-24-2005, 05:09 AM #1Nothing To See Here
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Can't so squats - what to replace em with?
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10-24-2005, 05:11 AM #2Laying the Smackdown.
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Don't exercise one leg. If you can't train one, don't train the other. Do you honestly want one huge leg and one skinny leg? Don't you think you will look like an idiot?
No leg training till the knee recovers.neg reds on sight crew
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10-24-2005, 05:19 AM #3Nothing To See Here
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Originally Posted by Rocky_Maivia
Well, I'm not anticipating being out for very long. If the doctor says that rehabilitation will take some time - then yeah, obvioulsy I'm not looking to have two different size legs. I was just looking for something for maybe 2-3 weeks."Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"
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10-24-2005, 05:28 AM #4back with half the reps
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i'd just ride the stationary bike
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10-24-2005, 05:31 AM #5Nothing To See Here
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Originally Posted by SDFlipStyle
With one leg? I'm getting a pretty good amount of pain from bending the kness (for some reason deadlifts aren't bothering it). So I'm going to be doing it with only my left leg...."Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"
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10-24-2005, 05:33 AM #6back with half the reps
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****, even a bike hurts...
just stop training legs while you recover.
or just kill yourself.
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10-24-2005, 05:48 AM #7Nothing To See Here
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Originally Posted by SDFlipStyle
No kidding man, I just started back after a month and a half off and doing a 5x5....three weeks into it my knee starts bothering me again. I got home and just laid in bed depressed as junk about it. This really sucks."Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"
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10-24-2005, 05:49 AM #8Registered User
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Leg Trainer
Well...I would go as far as killing yourself although that was very funny! Just lay off the legs until your Doc says o.k.!! Good luck!
So do you know what hapened to the knee or what is the diagnosis?
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10-24-2005, 05:50 AM #9back with half the reps
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Originally Posted by cgc
just rest then.
get your knee fully recovered and healthy, then slowly work on both of them getting stronger.
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10-24-2005, 05:52 AM #10Laying the Smackdown.
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Exactly.Originally Posted by SDFlipStyleneg reds on sight crew
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10-24-2005, 05:52 AM #11Knee deep in oats
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I feel your pain! My lower back is messed up and is not fully healed yet, and I have to completely lay off training legs. I also cannot do deadlifts. I guess it's a good opportunity to really focus on calves or something, but I HATE not being able to train my legs. I love squats.
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10-24-2005, 05:53 AM #12back with half the reps
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Originally Posted by image101
calves? calves?!?!
your back is hurt..... now is the time to work on those BICEPS!
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10-24-2005, 06:13 AM #13Nothing To See Here
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Originally Posted by MrUniverse61
I think something happened when I was playing with my dog...stupid I know...but I went to stomp at her like I was going to grab her and apparently kicked the ground...something hurt like crap when I did it.
It got better...but as I was doing squats, I started to get a pain at the base and in the center of the knee cap.
I looked on webMD (don't know if that is a good thing or not) and this is what I found that feels/sounds almost identical to what I am dealing with...
Eh...I can't find it now...but it was "Patella something scientific sounding" that talked about the knee alignment when in movement, pain when in a seated position (as opposed to a problems with the meniscus that causes pain when the leg is extended).
It's just kind of crazy, because at one moment, it feels fine then all of a sudden "pow"...I get pain. I've been icing it and keeping it wrapped...but I'm going to go by the doctors office on the way home to get my referral to an orthopedic (that they were supposed to give me over a month ago)."Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"
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10-24-2005, 07:35 AM #14Knee deep in oats
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Heh, I have no problems whatsoever with upper body development. My legs, however, are starting to lag behind due to their lack of training. I am blessed with good genetics though, and naturally have very muscular legs, but I feel the need to do SOMETHING to them, even if I can't train my quads/hams. That just leaves calves.Originally Posted by SDFlipStyle
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10-24-2005, 08:13 AM #15Registered User
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take a week off from everything, basically dont step foot in the gym or near weights. sit down eat like a normal human being, then see what happens, your body needs to heal, plus you never know, you may come back stronger, i did
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10-24-2005, 08:33 AM #16Phoenix
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That could be a host of things...Originally Posted by cgc
All of the one's I can think of, from my two a half years of knee touble, are things you can't just fix by messing around with it by yourself... It's time to get that bugger checked out by a specialist...
Could be a minor muscle symmetry imbalance caused by one leg being longer than the other... Could be a torn menisucus (sp?) Could be some other nasty stuff...
If this is the second recurrance, then it's MRI time!6'4"
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10-24-2005, 10:22 AM #17Train smarter, not harder
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if you can't do squatting ebcause of your knee you shouldnt' be doing any leg exercise or anything that places stress on the knee.
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10-24-2005, 11:21 AM #18Nothing To See Here
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Yeah, I just came off a 1 to 2 month lay off and everything was going good until this... freaken kneeOriginally Posted by theguyfrompa
yeah, I'm going by the Doctor's office to pick up my referal on the way home...Originally Posted by Nainoa
Just sucks...as I'm sure you know."Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"
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10-24-2005, 12:06 PM #19Phoenix
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Originally Posted by cgc
Yeah it sucks... But look at it this way... After 2 knee dislocations and 3 buckles over the course of 2 years, my legs had become so weak that I couldn't even get myself off the ground without using my arms...
It was considered a miracle that I hadn't torn anything with those calibre of injuries. (Beyond some minor MCL microtears that didn't require surgery)
Once after the last dislocation, I fell down in an empty part of a parking lot at night, nothing to grab a hold of... I was stuck on the ground, for five minutes, until an old man came along and helped me up... Do you know how embarassing it is to have a guy who's 60+ help you off the goddam ground...
On specialist said "Usually when I see someone with this kind of problem I'm the one telling their family members that it's time to put that person in a nursing home because they're too old to take care of themselves."
Another specialist told me "There's a pretty good chance (Around 90%) that your condition is degenerative, and this is the best you're going to get... Probably need a cane in your 40's!"
So I'm all broken down and crying... Loaded with self pity and even my Linebacking core and fellow defensive linemen beating the **** out of the guy who cheap shotted me with the worlds worst chop block, who caused the problem failed to cheer me up...
The I pushed the medical community, and found a Sports PT who said... "More than likely it is degerative, however, we can try a program of restrengthening and rehab, and if you work hard enough, and it just so happens that they other doctors are wrong and maybe it's not degenerative, we can get you back to strong... But you'll never play football again, no matter what!"
Long story short... I followed her advice to the absolute goddam letter... Gave 110%...
Eventually I started Squatting and doing deads with a goddam Empty broom stick. Think about when you started squatting, did you start out with a goddam broom stick as a challenging weight!
Now... Almost 2 years later... I'm now squatting 280 by 10-12 reps for 4 sets, and I've been medically cleared as not having any kind of degenerative tensile condition in my knee ligaments!
If I can go from an old man helping me up, and squatting a broom stick as a friggin challenge... To repping 280 with laser tight form... I'm pretty sure anyone can conquer any knee problem with patients and dedication...
And I swear it's like someone spitting in my face when I hear someone say "I can't do XYZ because I'm so long legged!"
F*CK that... I did what I did and I'm 6'4"!
You can heal it, and/or get it fixed... Just be smart, and follow the program.
Good Luck Bro!6'4"
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10-24-2005, 06:36 PM #20Put It Overhead
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Well if you really only want to work out one leg then i suggest doing pistols with your good leg.
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10-24-2005, 09:33 PM #21Registered User
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First off with how you described your injury happening and since its been going on for over a month, you definately need to see and orthopedists or Physical therapist before exercising. Could be some really bad things, including torn ACL, or meniscus. Once you get clearance from the doctor to work out, ask him what you should be doing. If anything i would be using this time to work out upper body, and rest.
Heres a couple of things i'd like to say, as knee injuries are so common.
******I try to avoid squatting lower than a couple of inches above parallel.
******Deadlifts, I only go just below knees. I use leg press for complete range of motion.
******I stick to higher reps, and dont perform reps if my form starts to fail.
I know you might be thinking that you wont get good results this way, but just remember that even if they are slower, if you avoid injury in the long run you'll be better off..... Injury sets you back big time... The doctor may advice a brace during leg work also....
Ive heard the strengthening the medial quadricep muscle is important for knee safety, but havent done any research on this.
Hope this helps, now if i could only figure out how to prevent my shoulder injuries.
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10-25-2005, 01:44 AM #22<3 Tea
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10-25-2005, 05:33 AM #23Nothing To See Here
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Well - I have an appointment with a Orthopedists for November 1st..so we'll see what he says.Originally Posted by Dankid
And I guess why I'm so aggravated is I'm already top heavy (upper body bigger proportionately then my lower). So I'm hesitant to just work upper body by itself. I may try and really concentrate on calves though. Shoot, I may just start cutting some to loose some BF then.
I dunno...it's just aggravating.
And Nainoa Thanks for the run down on your condition. Very uplifting. One of those things when you get so focused on your own junk that you forget "it can always be worse".
Thanks and hopefully (nothing personal
) I'm no where close to that condition.
Thanks again and I guess I will let you guys know what the outcome is."Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"
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10-25-2005, 06:30 AM #24Phoenix
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Good luck Bro...Originally Posted by cgcWell - I have an appointment with a Orthopedists for November 1st..so we'll see what he says.
And I guess why I'm so aggravated is I'm already top heavy (upper body bigger proportionately then my lower). So I'm hesitant to just work upper body by itself. I may try and really concentrate on calves though. Shoot, I may just start cutting some to loose some BF then.
I dunno...it's just aggravating.
And Nainoa Thanks for the run down on your condition. Very uplifting. One of those things when you get so focused on your own junk that you forget "it can always be worse".
Thanks and hopefully (nothing personal ) I'm no where close to that condition.
Thanks again and I guess I will let you guys know what the outcome is.
You just gotta keep your head up... When you're injured the two forces that are working against you the most are Self-Pity and Ego... Self Pity has you sitting in a hole bemoaning yourself, and Ego will have you doing stupid **** that will make your injury work all because it some how convinces you that to be a man you have to be tougher than reason...
I've always said that the biggest changes in BBing are mental... In this life tough moments happen to us... If they didn't we'd all walk around with smiles plastered on our faces, farting candy coated unicorns, in a world where girls didn't poop!
The trick is to take these rough moments, delve into them and find the purpose that (Whatever divine force you subscribe to) has put into our lives...
People like to talk about how a man is this, or a man is that... A man is tough and doesn't give in...
You know what I say... I say a man is someone who can keep himself a float, and conquer both his self-pity and his ego, to master himself during the hard times, so he can pick himself up and become a goddam Titan of a human being once the storm passes.
I think for you... This is that lesson...
Good Luck Bro... And keep us aprisied and updated.
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10-25-2005, 06:44 AM #25Nothing To See Here
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Originally Posted by Nainoa
I think you're dead on -
I will teeter between both. I'll either get so frustrated I'll plant my butt on the couch, or go back into the guy and "work through the pain"...ultimately hurting myself worse and pissing off my wife. Neither of which are good....lol
Updates to come after the Dr's"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"
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10-25-2005, 06:49 AM #26RAP MUFFINZ
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Good luck, man.
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11-01-2005, 11:17 AM #27Nothing To See Here
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ok - Just got back from the Doctors office.
"Patella Tendonitis"
Basically tendonitis in that tendon running from the upper shin to the knee cap.
I have some more anti-inflammatory and will start a rehab schedule on Monday with some stretching and some callisthenic type exercises.
HOPEFULLY - here in a couple of weeks I will get the OK to start back to some full squats again.
I started picking up some pain in the other knee yesterday that I am attributing to me favoring that weak knee a bit when I walk. The Doctor asked me to flex my legs and said he could see a different in the size of each leg as well and is thinking I have been favoring the good knee for some time now.
So - good news I guess at this point. Time will tell and hopefully this will just be a blip on the screen.
Thanks to everyone who gave me some feed back."Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"
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11-01-2005, 12:05 PM #28Phoenix
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Originally Posted by cgc
Good to hear Bro...
When I was in PT, one of my "PT Buddy's" (Read: Guy who was seeing another therapist, so we got to know each other in the waiting room.) He had Patellar tendonitis... He was only around for 3 weeks, and I never saw him again... (So maybe that gives you an idea of how long you'll rehab for????)
One other thing that might be a factor especially if you're showing a difference between legs might be that your one leg is longer than the other... Might behoove you to ask the PT to give that a look when you get in there.
Good Luck Bro!
I'm glad to hear it isn't anything terrible!6'4"
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11-01-2005, 12:13 PM #29Nothing To See Here
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Originally Posted by Nainoa
Yeah I will definitely do that. I hadn't noticed it in the past, but I'm going to look at both legs tonight.
3 weeks would be NICE. I'm going to follow what the PT says to the "T" so I can get back rolling again.
What a stinken relief, let me tell ya.
Again, thanks guys for all the input.
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"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"
The more I workout at commercial gyms, the more I hate commercial gyms.
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11-01-2005, 12:18 PM #30Phoenix
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Originally Posted by cgcYeah I will definitely do that. I hadn't noticed it in the past, but I'm going to look at both legs tonight.
3 weeks would be NICE. I'm going to follow what the PT says to the "T" so I can get back rolling again.
What a stinken relief, let me tell ya.
Again, thanks guys for all the input.
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Yeah with my shoulder I never noticed the atrophy until the doctor said something, then I looked... Still after 10+ weeks of training my right trap is smaller than my left trap... Everything else has come back (Except a little on the bi's) Yet for some reason that injured area is just uber slow at rebuilding it's atrophied size...
(Granted my left trap is getting monsterous, after my left arm spent 8 months as the dominant/only arm!)6'4"
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) I'm no where close to that condition.
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