Yet another Ron Paul thread, but please forgive me. I just want to hear the reactions as to the officer's statements. The statements made by the officer had nothing to do with the fact that it was Ron Paul being supported.
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I highly doubt that the cops are anti- Ron Paul or anything they probably have never even heard of him. It sounds like they got a complaint from someone and they are just trying to please that person. It is bs when they bust out the good old "Disorderly conduct" which is every officers backdrop if they have nothing.
I disagree that it's disorderly conduct. However, I can understand the concern of the police. People on the freeway seeing a bunch of people standing above them holding signs could be dangerous with a lot of traffic. It's different than billboards which we're basically self-trained to ignore most of the time.
I had to lol @ one part.
-Do you have a right to bear arms?
-Yes
-Do you have a right to bear arms right here?
-No
^----Isn't the cop basically saying that the civilians lack of ability to bear arms at that place in time is in violation of the constitution? I hope I'm not the only one who noticed that.
The cop wasn't an ******* though and didn't try to take the camera away or grab the guy or anything else. He was just doing his job and probably couldn't wait to get home and away from all this ****.
lol thats a load of crap. i see people hanging up signs all the time, and nobody to my knowledge got into a wreck from looking at this paticular sign that is among 1000s of other signs (like speed limit signs, exit signs etc.)
Hey officier i was distracted by that sign that tells me to drive 40 MPH and almost crashed... please take it down
-Do you have a right to bear arms?
-Yes
-Do you have a right to bear arms right here?
-No
Doesn't he have that right, though? Bearing arms not meaning "brandish it at passerby or fire it into the air like you're at a middle eastern wedding celebration..."
Doesn't he have that right, though? Bearing arms not meaning "brandish it at passerby or fire it into the air like you're at a middle eastern wedding celebration..."
I think they said they were in Wisconsin, which is a no carry state. I think that's what the officer was referring to.
As far as the video, I don't see that as being disorderly conduct, but I don't know the law. I think the cop was pretty reasonable considering the Paul supporter was questioning him a lot about his freedoms.
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Doesn't he have that right, though? Bearing arms not meaning "brandish it at passerby or fire it into the air like you're at a middle eastern wedding celebration..."
No one said he wanted to brandish it at anyone or fire it. From what the officer said, the civilian didn't have the right to have a weapon on him in that particular area at that particular time. It had nothing to do with permits to carry or felony backround, etc. The police officer didn't bring that up (unless it was edited out)
So that would seem it's against the constitution. As far as I'm aware (someone correct me if I'm wrong) you actually have a legal right to carry a weapon in public but if you want to have it concealed, you have to get a special permit.
-Do you have a right to bear arms?
-Yes
-Do you have a right to bear arms right here?
-No
^----Isn't the cop basically saying that the civilians lack of ability to bear arms at that place in time is in violation of the constitution? I hope I'm not the only one who noticed that.
Yeah, I thought that was stupidity on the cop's part.
Holding signs is not illegal. If it were, every hobo holding a sign on a street corner would be in jail. I could see, however, that the overpass (bridge) is city property and you might need some sort of permit to hang a sign on the structure. The cop didn't explain it correctly though; he basically said "I'm a cop, do as I say." lol
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Yet another Ron Paul thread, but please forgive me. I just want to hear the reactions as to the officer's statements. The statements made by the officer had nothing to do with the fact that it was Ron Paul being supported.
Hey officier i was distracted by that sign that tells me to drive 40 MPH and almost crashed... please take it down
That's different. They are highway signs and are repetitive. People only glance at them whereas a Ron Paul sign has to be read. I don't think any signs should be permitted over a highway overpass. I think they violate right of way laws or something. The officer just didn't know the specific law. However, the way he said he didn't have the right to bear arms at that spot was wrong. His state probably outlawed open carry of firearms but in New Hampshire you are allowed to carry anywhere. The second amendment allows to open carry firearms anywhere but most states passed laws to prohibit it in certain areas.
i agree with the cop. but at the same time i disagree. regardless of public or private property, if billboards lining a freeway distracting drivers are allowed, we should be able to hang signs on bridges as well.
in that regard the whole "driver distraction" point may be moot, but it can still create problems if everyone and their dog starts hanging random signs over bridges.
for one thing, bridges might start getting crowded with businesses trying to get free advertising in.
secondly, if they aren't secured properly people could get hurt.
so maybe the method in which the sign is posted should be regulated? and if the message is a public service announcement, it should be allowed no questions asked?
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