ALA and X-Factor

-Aaron- · 12-14-2007, 07:41 AM

I just bought two bottles of X-Factor, but I'm taking K-R-ALA. Now, from my understanding, ALA is an Omega 6 fatty acid... I'm looking for clarification on if it's fine to take these two supplements.

Thanks.

Reps to those who are helpful.

dan7681 · 12-14-2007, 07:54 AM

I believe this is based off of ALA's ability attenuate PGE2 and PGF2alpha through COX. How strong this effect is still unknown and most of the research is from in vitro I believe. If you'd like I'll dig up some studies for you.

It does seem like it does have an effect on X-Factor but I'm not 100% sure on what degree that would be. Also this would depend on the dosage as well.

For the time being it would seem best to not use them together (or atleast seperate the dosing of the two significantly) IMHO.

Let me see if I can get an answer from Phosphate or Bill as I'm sure the can give you a much more elaborate answer than myself.

Or if deserusan is around he can probably give a good answer too since I know he has talked about this before and it seems like whenver you mention his name he pops up lol...

in10city · 12-14-2007, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by -Aaron-

I just bought two bottles of X-Factor, but I'm taking K-R-ALA. Now, from my understanding, ALA is an Omega 6 fatty acid... I'm looking for clarification on if it's fine to take these two supplements.

Thanks.

Reps to those who are helpful.

How much are you taking?

Based upon what deserusan has indicated in previous posts, I've personally cut my intake back to one or two (max) doses. He indicated that higher intakes will bump heads with XF. I'm hurting right on schedule

This is where I initially found what I was looking for regarding this and the threads Mertle and getbustered pointed to:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5380583

redhawk76 · 12-14-2007, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by -Aaron-

I just bought two bottles of X-Factor, but I'm taking K-R-ALA. Now, from my understanding, ALA is an Omega 6 fatty acid... I'm looking for clarification on if it's fine to take these two supplements.

Thanks.

Reps to those who are helpful.

Are you referring to alpha linoleic acid? It's in fact an omega 3 I believe, but that's not alpha lipoic acid.

There still is a possible confliction, as Dan and In10 have addressed.

Phosphate bond · 12-20-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by -Aaron-

I just bought two bottles of X-Factor, but I'm taking K-R-ALA. Now, from my understanding, ALA is an Omega 6 fatty acid... I'm looking for clarification on if it's fine to take these two supplements.

Thanks.

Reps to those who are helpful.

ALA (as in K-R-ALA) is alpha lipoic acid. This is perfectly fine to take with X factor. As a matter of fact because it boost glutathione it may improve the PGF 2 alpha to PGE2 ratio when COX-2 is activated.

Do not get this confused with Alpha linolenic acid which is an omega 3 fatty acid found in flax oil.

Dentor · 07-17-2009, 08:11 AM

bump

Illadelphia · 07-17-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dentor

bump

THe question was already answered. Why did you bump this?

MBSowards · 07-17-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Illadelphia

THe question was already answered. Why did you bump this?

Thread was too long to read through. Wishing someone would just post the answer.

Illadelphia · 07-17-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MBSowards

Thread was too long to read through. Wishing someone would just post the answer.

When i 1st started posting here, i used to follow Phosphate around and then spend like a 1/2 hour trying to decipher his posts

Dentor · 07-17-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Illadelphia

THe question was already answered. Why did you bump this?

srry im still trying to read up on everything, usually i just find all the threads i want and open them in new tabs then read them all at once. i found the answer, i bumped it when reading cause i thought it was a solid thread my bad tho.

i see other threads like deserusan's not recomending Alpha lipoic acid and i just saw MBsowards not recomend taking Alpha lipoic acid with ArA in another thread "Im not going to say it out loud" lol. MB have any answers?

cal62887 · 07-18-2009, 03:27 PM

Dentor, I think I too answered you in "X Factor..." thread.

1,2-Dithiolane-3-Pentanoic Acid = ALA = Aplodan/Glycobol/Glucophase SR/etc...

Dentor · 07-18-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cal62887

Dentor, I think I too answered you in "X Factor..." thread.

1,2-Dithiolane-3-Pentanoic Acid = ALA = Aplodan/Glycobol/Glucophase SR/etc...

You told me that it wasnt okay to take Glycobol with x-factor? What confuses me tho is why is WrkHrd_PlyHrdr1 saying that you said it was alright, and then you told me it wasnt? its kinda weird because im getting a lot of mixed reactions about taking x-factor with glycobol. Im seeing people say its not okay to take Alpha Linolic acid with X-factor but i see no threads saying it about alpha lipoic Acid. srry i dont want to be the annoying guy but im just trying to figure it out cause im getting a lot of mixed answers. why is it not okay to take Alpha Lipoic acid with X-factor.

heres the thread by the way where you were quoted
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post330206941

cal62887 · 07-20-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dentor

You told me that it wasnt okay to take Glycobol with x-factor? What confuses me tho is why is WrkHrd_PlyHrdr1 saying that you said it was alright, and then you told me it wasnt? its kinda weird because im getting a lot of mixed reactions about taking x-factor with glycobol. Im seeing people say its not okay to take Alpha Linolic acid with X-factor but i see no threads saying it about alpha lipoic Acid. srry i dont want to be the annoying guy but im just trying to figure it out cause im getting a lot of mixed answers. why is it not okay to take Alpha Lipoic acid with X-factor.

heres the thread by the way where you were quoted
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post330206941

Ah, gotchya.

Part of the confusion is that Alpha Linolic Acid and Alpha Lipoic Acid are getting confused and part of the confusion, that is my fault, is that I didn't answer wkrdhrd's question completely.

WrkHrdk either PMed me or started a thread asking specifically about phellodendron, which will not effect Ara. I did not look through the other ingredients to make sure no other ingredients would effect Ara until you asked the question. Does that make sense?

In other words, he had a specific question about a specific ingredient. You had a question about an entire product.

But again.. this is all dependent on the dosage. One could run a cycle of Glycobol and X Factor and have an amazing run.

Dentor · 07-20-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cal62887

Ah, gotchya.

Part of the confusion is that Alpha Linolic Acid and Alpha Lipoic Acid are getting confused and part of the confusion, that is my fault, is that I didn't answer wkrdhrd's question completely.

WrkHrdk either PMed me or started a thread asking specifically about phellodendron, which will not effect Ara. I did not look through the other ingredients to make sure no other ingredients would effect Ara until you asked the question. Does that make sense?

In other words, he had a specific question about a specific ingredient. You had a question about an entire product.

But again.. this is all dependent on the dosage. One could run a cycle of Glycobol and X Factor and have an amazing run.

ya it makes sense srry bout the confusion none the less both products seem like they have awsome effects and i cant wait to try the new x-factor when i bulk up.

cal62887 · 07-20-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dentor

ya it makes sense srry bout the confusion none the less both products seem like they have awsome effects and i cant wait to try the new x-factor when i bulk up.

Good stuff, bro.

Let me know how it goes for you. Any help you need along the way, just let me know.