The Reason why Jay Lost!

Delo · 10-17-2005, 09:51 AM

In my opinion in watching this was his mid section looked as bad as it has EVER!!! He was lean, Legs looked awesome but his stomach looked no better than Craig Titus with that being said would you award him 1st place??

Flex500 · 10-17-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Delo

In my opinion in watching this was his mid section looked as bad as it has EVER!!! He was lean, Legs looked awesome but his stomach looked no better than Craig Titus with that being said would you award him 1st place??

I thought jay was lucky to be 2nd. Ronnie was clearly better than the rest of the competition in every aspect. He brought his calves up and his gut down. He was shredded and very dry.

Cutler looked great don't ge me wrong but him and Coleman shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence.

I thought Coleman was clearly clearly ahead then a dogfight for second between badell and cutler.

Brufiacci · 10-17-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Flex500

I thought jay was lucky to be 2nd. Ronnie was clearly better than the rest of the competition in every aspect. He brought his calves up and his gut down. He was shredded and very dry.

Cutler looked great don't ge me wrong but him and Coleman shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence.

I thought Coleman was clearly clearly ahead then a dogfight for second between badell and cutler.

Ronnie just trained himself to suck his gut in. Believe me it was still there.

ArnoldDynasty · 10-17-2005, 10:01 AM

coleman's lucky he got away with his abs and his calves cause his abs=fat his calves=tiny. You gotta give him credit where credit is due and that's his arms, his back and his hamies. I don't feel he should've won though cause when he did beat jay in those he was right there and jay took coleman in chest, shoulders, quads, calves, and abs and I don't know about this talk about his midsection but look at his obliques. No one has obliques like him they are massive and they are rock hard that's why he has the appearance of being blocky but no one seems to get that's not fat it's muscle. Thing twice before you talk about jay's midsection and say he's clearly "not" better then coleman because a lot of us feel he is.

Flex500 · 10-17-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Brufiacci

Ronnie just trained himself to suck his gut in. Believe me it was still there.

well either way that is fine. I am sure if you took the whole olympia line up and said "guys totally relax your stomachs" you would see 20 guys with big a*s guts hanging.

Hardcore Natural · 10-17-2005, 10:12 AM

Coleman KILLED Cutler in every aspect man...look at the pics. And yes, Cutler's abs/midsection looks like complete crap.....looks horrible imo. Coleman kills him on abs, quads and arms, glutes and hamstrings....easily.

patfactorx · 10-17-2005, 10:13 AM

Ronnie did look ridiculously shredded for this show and I think the combination of sheer quality size and leaness put him heads above the competition.

Flex500 · 10-17-2005, 10:16 AM

the thing is many cutler fans will say jay won on quads, calves, midsection, and delts. Then Coleman fans will say the opposite.

The fact of the matter is many of those bodyparts could go either way. I could easily see how someone could give coleman all those body parts and vice versa.

To me I think Coleman beat Cutler in the areas of quads, hams, arms, delts, back, and midsection. Cutler most muscular post I believe also really hurt him. He looks like a big mess doing his most muscular, kind of like coleman when coleman tries the side tricep. Colemans side tri and jays most muscular and just terrible looking.

The point is for Cutler to beat Coleman he is not going to be able to just come close to coleman. Like I said many of those bodyparts could go either way. And that just ain't gonna cut it to dethrone Ronnie. The ONLY way Jay will win is if he blows Coleman out of the water. That will only happen if coleman comes in way off, is hurt, or doesn't compete.

Flex500 · 10-17-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Todd69

Coleman KILLED Cutler in every aspect man...look at the pics. And yes, Cutler's abs/midsection looks like complete crap.....looks horrible imo. Coleman kills him on abs, quads and arms, glutes and hamstrings....easily.

I agree, when the top 5 were onstage it was like 4 big bodybuilders to the left of some guy who looked leagues ahead of everyone else. I think Coleman made the gap between him and cutler much much bigger this year. In the past couple years it has been close. But not this year.