Do you Squat more than you DL?

[GRAYHORSE]

In the quest for 600lbs my squat is catching my DL very fast. I think i'll hit 600lbs in both at the same time.

I see that many "elite" lifters squat is more than the DL. Is this how it should be or is it just different for everyone.

I feel like it's much easier to make progress with my squat than my DL....

[JNo20]

Nope.

My squat is low 400's raw and mid 500's geared, and my deadlift is ~550 raw and 570 geared.

The gap is closing though, and I imagine that sometime next year I'll squat more than I pull.

[crackyflipside]

Well, just started squats about a month ago now at 220lbs and my DL is at 350lbs so no.

[dirtpool]

is this with or without gear?

I deadlift 120lbs more than I squat as of my last couple raw maxes

[GRAYHORSE]

is this with or without gear?

I deadlift 120lbs more than I squat as of my last couple raw maxes

both, i wore a suit at my last meet but i didnt get much of anything out of it. Nothing on DL for sure. I've only used it a couple times though. My best squat to date is 555 and it was done raw. I did 578 DL with a suit on but i've found it does nothing for my max dead.

Im pushing for 600/450/600 in March or July at the latest, at the firefighter olympics.

[Mike Zero]

Equiped - at the moment it's about 550 to 500 in favour of my deadlift. Crazy how my deadlifts just accelerated away like that... That is in a loose suit though, once I get my tighter one they'll probably be around the same level. I think like you both lifts will get to 600 around the same time. But my bench will be like 300...

[cupcakekid]

ive found as ive become better at powerlifting my squat has really caught up to my deadlift(my sq = 450, dl = 500). typically with suited lifters, technology for the squat is far superior/effect than the deadlift suits.

also, many people find it easier to train the squat more often than the deadlift, thats another reason why your sq may be approchng your deadlift

[Frank.S]

Im working my way up to a 600lbs raw squat too (arround mid 5's right now), and ive squatted 551lbs in a ****ty z-suit. Just finishing off the smolov meso-cycle here so will be interesting..

anyway, my best pull is a gym pull of 551lbs but I kind of expect when my raw squat does hit 600lbs which im aiming for in a contest in march, that my deadlift will be at least the same. I have been neglecting training the deadlift somewhat, but I figured all the squats would probally help it.. will be interesting to see for sure.

[Jimislash]

I squat more than I deadlift. But I think I have a better build for squatting than deadlifting. Imagine Anthony Clark without all the strength.

[ottorotvic]

Most people can raw deadlift more than they can raw squat. In fact, almost all do, unless they are high squatters, then they may claim to raw squat more than they deadlift.

If you happen to be more gifted for squatting than you are for deadlifting (take me for example) then your raw squat may be CLOSE to your raw deadlift, but it's probably not going to be higher.

I am a crappy puller but a decent squatter. Best raw deadlift, 535, best raw squat, 500.

[mochi]

i'm not so good at squatting, i pull like 80 lbs. more than i squat

[dparm99]

I currently deadlift over 200lbs more than I squat. I'm working hard on closing the gap but!

[Big_Spaz]

I pull about 100 lbs. more than I squat.

I have no idea why or how, but I it's always been that way for me.




-Spaz

[PeonLover]

Squat + 170 = deadlift for me, the gap maxed out at 190 when I was at 385/575.

[UhhWhatever]

My deadlift is always about 20 lbs higher than my squat.

No equipment, and I don't squat high.

[Tosti]

I squat -ATG- 120 kg, and deadlift 180 kg (raw)

[Arlecchino]

Nope. Never have. The deadlift has always been my best lift.

[GRAYHORSE]

little update....

I did a max tonight on my squat. I hit 565lbs good with just knee wraps. It was a new best so i stopped there. I had already done 515 and 545.

I may put my suit on next week and see if it will help me hit 600.


I need to find a meet near me cause im feeling strong right now!!

[Abbrevi8tor]

I've always pulled more than I squat RAWZZZZ. My Deadlift is about 125# above my squat.

[jeff00z28]

Squat + 170 = deadlift for me, the gap maxed out at 190 when I was at 385/575.

thats odd

[shreddedx10]

i think the elite lifters squat is higher than their dead becuz there are more squats suits and **** etc, with deadlifts there isnt much to help u

[jmil]

I've never used a suit, and I only do box squats right below parallel..so I don't know my true actual squat max. My best pull is 550, and my best 14" box is 480 thus far, but I'm pretty sure I'd hit 500 or a tad bit more on a raw squat right below parallel.

[Tuisto]

I have max squatted more than I have deadlifted, however I'm usually not as focused on max deadlift because it can't squash me and I pull with a hook grip with little t-rex arms (yes excuses) the two are close either way.

[John Prophet]

i think the elite lifters squat is higher than their dead becuz there are more squats suits and **** etc, with deadlifts there isnt much to help u

thats it in a nutshell

if you go back and look at lifters of years past, or you look at RAW lifters today, most of us dead more than we squat. Though mine are within 20lbs of each other

the reason why eite lifters squat more is SOLELY due to the fact that the squat suits today are giving them several hundred pounds AND the judging standards are MEGAlax today in some of these backyard federations. Its a total travesty when the video shows the squat is 4" above parallel yet all of them jump up and backslap and heehaw like they won the lottery.


The deadlift used to be the lift you won or lost meets with. Now it is sort of an afterthough since half the guys BENCH more than they dead as well as of course half squatting way more than they dead.

So today we have the weirdness occuring such as a guy benches 800, squats 1100, deads 700.

But as I say, thats in geared lifting. U wont see that in raw lifting

u could go to a fed website such as www.rawpowerlifting.com and look at soem meet results and see how the guys deads compare to their squats


if a guy has the bodytype where he has long legs and a short torso (he probably has long arms also) then his deadlift will be way higher than his squat. I have sort of shorter legs and slightly longer torso so my lifts come out more balanced.

[John Prophet]

as u see in some of the replies...squats are more technical and soem guys definitely struggle with form and getting the most out of the lift. (most guys dont "sit back" enough and instead they let the knees just cave in forwards)

the deadlift can be lifted with attrocious form and it doesnt hurt the results too much, lol, though it may hurt that back in due time.

[ProOne]

Having competed back in the early to mid 80's when the equipment wasn't so helpful, I always squatted more than I deadlifted. My best squat was 905 and my best dead was 780. Unfortunately I couldn't bench for crap and my best was 510. Today, my squat is still slightly better than my dead.

[John Prophet]

Having competed back in the early to mid 80's when the equipment wasn't so helpful, I always squatted more than I deadlifted. My best squat was 905 and my best dead was 780. Unfortunately I couldn't bench for crap and my best was 510. Today, my squat is still slightly better than my dead.

wow..great numbers

I suppose that is more normal for competitive lifters. Obviously the 1000 lb squat was acheived way before the 1000lb dead. and the list of 1000lb squatters (even back before the gear got out of hand) is way bigger than the list of 900 pullers.

for gym rats though, ive seen plenty guys do a sloppy stiff legged 500 dead even if they dont even squat AT ALL, lol. u dont see that many guys deadlift at all in a commercial gym...not that many heavy squatters either

[Titania]

.......typically with suited lifters, technology for the squat is far superior/effect than the deadlift suits. .......

Yep.

Most people can raw deadlift more than they can raw squat........If you happen to be more gifted for squatting than you are for deadlifting (take me for example) then your raw squat may be CLOSE to your raw deadlift, but it's probably not going to be higher.........

Agreed on both points.

[John Prophet]

at the heavy point of max squats its "oh crap, if I dont lift this it will crush me"

at the heavy point of a max dead its more like "nahhh, this bar isnt bothering anyone, ill just set it back down"

[Minotaur]

My deadlift is currently about 30 lbs ahead of my squat. They've always been pretty much equal. It's my bench that sucks in relation to the other two.