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    Question Front Lateral Raises vs. Side Lateral Raises

    I知 doing a 4 day upper lower (A and B w/o) split. On the 1st upper day I do push presses. On the second I知 debating weather to do front later raised (DB or plate) or side lateral raises. Which of the 2 do you find more beneficial towards overall shoulder development?

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    doing front delt isolation is a waste, first off your doing psuh presses so they will hit them enough and your probably doing some sort of chest press as well. Side raises
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    Originally Posted by bigpump23
    doing front delt isolation is a waste, first off your doing psuh presses so they will hit them enough and your probably doing some sort of chest press as well. Side raises
    I was thinking along the same line. Thanks man.
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    Originally Posted by bigpump23
    doing front delt isolation is a waste, first off your doing psuh presses so they will hit them enough and your probably doing some sort of chest press as well. Side raises
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Most people neglect side delts, because the don't get hit indirectly like the front and rear delts. You have to look in the mirror and decide what's lacking. There's no rule against doing both though, but you won't need as much volume on front delts. I like doing close grip front raises with a barbell.
    I don't know either lol
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    I知 currently doing FortifiedIron痴 Hypertrophy 2.0 routine, in which he recommends front plate raises if that changes anything.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=493507
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    Those are good too.
    I don't know either lol
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    where is the vote box that says neither ???
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    Originally Posted by Mikey1
    where is the vote box that says neither ???
    It doesn稚 because I specified that I want to do one or the other. No offense.
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    Originally Posted by Snack Pack
    It doesn稚 because I specified that I want to do one or the other. No offense.
    don't worry about him, it's that type of negativity that makes this place ****ty.
    I don't know either lol
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    Originally Posted by bigpump23
    doing front delt isolation is a waste, first off your doing psuh presses so they will hit them enough and your probably doing some sort of chest press as well. Side raises
    Bump to that... the medial delts are notoriously undertrained for most people, while the front delts get hit with pressing, and the rears get hit with heavy back work.
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    Originally Posted by aqua-beowulf
    Bump to that... the medial delts are notoriously undertrained for most people, while the front delts get hit with pressing, and the rears get hit with heavy back work.
    i think my rear is still lagging with heavy backwork

    anyway medial delts cuz they make u wide
    gotta get those bowling ball shoulders.
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    Originally Posted by The Real Deal
    i think my rear is still lagging with heavy backwork

    anyway medial delts cuz they make u wide
    gotta get those bowling ball shoulders.
    Well, I isolate them too... I think they need additional work, no doubt about it... I was just stating that no other exercises really stimulate the medials indirectly. I do face pulls up to 3 times per week. It used to be either lying laterals on an incline, or bent-over rear delt raises, but face pulls are now my #1 choice.
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    throw front raises into the pit with kickbacks and flyes...
    they're ok if you're new.. but if ur out of the beginner stage, i would say the combo of bench pressing and shoulder pressing is all you will need for your front delts... lateral raises is another story, big necessity to do those as mentioned they dont get stimulated enough from other lifts including compounds
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    Thanks for all the input. I知 going to go with side lateral raises.
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    I don't really do either much... but I do use side laterals sometimes. Side laterals deserve much more merit, so my vote goes to those.
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    Originally Posted by Snack Pack
    I知 currently doing FortifiedIron痴 Hypertrophy 2.0 routine, in which he recommends front plate raises if that changes anything.

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=493507

    keep in mind FI's program is more of a hybird program for strength and hypertrohpy, so if you want strength in your bench then yes do front raises as it will help your bench.
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    Originally Posted by W8isGR8
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Most people neglect side delts, because the don't get hit indirectly like the front and rear delts. You have to look in the mirror and decide what's lacking. There's no rule against doing both though, but you won't need as much volume on front delts. I like doing close grip front raises with a barbell.

    now I am going to try to keep this from becoming our usual arguing.Granted that there's no rule against doing both but chances are he's doing any sort of combo of incline/flat db/bb pressing, closegrip pressing, dips, shoulder press. All which hit the anterior delt pretty hard so yes if you want to contribute to more back/shoulder problems by doing more isolating front work, go ahead. Just remember that he has got to do more rowing then front delt raises. Now if he was talking pressing power, he MAY have to do front plate reaises but in terms of hypertrohpy and strength if is training is where it shoul dbe there is zero need for front delt isolation
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    I chose side laterals (apperently every one else did also) bucause my pressing movements more then take care of my front delts.
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    side laterals are necessary for me, front raises are not.
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    Originally Posted by bigpump23
    now I am going to try to keep this from becoming our usual arguing.Granted that there's no rule against doing both but chances are he's doing any sort of combo of incline/flat db/bb pressing, closegrip pressing, dips, shoulder press. All which hit the anterior delt pretty hard so yes if you want to contribute to more back/shoulder problems by doing more isolating front work, go ahead. Just remember that he has got to do more rowing then front delt raises. Now if he was talking pressing power, he MAY have to do front plate reaises but in terms of hypertrohpy and strength if is training is where it shoul dbe there is zero need for front delt isolation
    Agreed 100%. Unfortunately I'm one of those poor bastards with severely underdeveloped front delts, so I need extra work. I just thought he might be too.
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    Laterals. Fronts don't feel so great on my joints and my front delts are already built well from years of incorrect bench pressing
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    There's no such thing as "front lateral raises". Lateral means to the side.
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    There's no such thing as "front lateral raises". Lateral means to the side.
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    Lateral raises are a staple of my shoulder workout. I like how they build shoulder width. If I ever use front raises it will be as a finishing movement for delt day. The only use I find in front raises is to shape my front delts but I'll always do a pressing movement for my front delts first (usually military presses).
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    Originally Posted by Snack Pack
    I知 doing a 4 day upper lower (A and B w/o) split. On the 1st upper day I do push presses. On the second I知 debating weather to do front later raised (DB or plate) or side lateral raises. Which of the 2 do you find more beneficial towards overall shoulder development?

    Thanks for any input.
    I like to do lateral raises in the scapular plane. I like this plane because the motion is performed in a functional postion for the body. The scapular plane is at a 45 degree angle between the frontal and sagital plane.
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    Originally Posted by Rocky_Maivia
    There's no such thing as "front lateral raises". Lateral means to the side.
    make me laugh when people call lat pulldowns, "lateral pulldowns".
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    Originally Posted by SDFlipStyle
    make me laugh when people call lat pulldowns, "lateral pulldowns".
    And think that lateral raises work the "lats", lmao.
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    The weird thing is, when I do laterals I get a pump in my side delts.
    But with front raises (either with barbell or a plate) to forehead height I get a really good pump in my side and rear delts. I also think that front raises are a more natural movement for the shoulder joint than laterals are.

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    Originally Posted by Snack Pack View Post
    front later raised (DB or plate)
    Originally Posted by aqua-beowulf View Post
    the medial delts are notoriously undertrained
    Not upset these two are banned.
    Originally Posted by The Real Deal View Post
    medial delts cuz they make u wide
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    Originally Posted by Rocky_Maivia View Post
    There's no such thing as "front lateral raises". Lateral means to the side.
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