Im going to the gym in the next hour or 2: check this out

[high]

My split is

tues - chest/triceps
thur - legs/abs
saturday - back/shoulders/biceps

What do you think of these exercises for back/shoulders and biceps

BACK
pull-ups- 3 sets
seated rows- 3 sets

SHOULDERS
dumbell military presses- 3 sets
upright rows- 3 sets

BICEPS
standing curls- 3 sets
hammer curls - 3 sets
preacher curls - 2 sets


Please give me any suggestions....THANK YOU

[Jay]

Do some deadlifts for back, cut down sets on biceps to 5-6, for shoulders do

db press-2-3set sets
lateral raises1-2 set
bent over later1-2
upright row1-2



Good luck......


Jay

[amusclehead]

this is what i would do
back

WIDE-GRIP pullups,4
screw seated rows, do bent-over bb rows, much more effective,3

shoulders
just do 3sets of military pressing

biceps
standing bb curl,3
hammer curl,3

that's it


btw, that's assuming you do deadliftings on leg day

[Jay]

Muscle only 3 sets for shoulders of the same exercise



Jay

[amusclehead]

Originally posted by Jay
Muscle only 3 sets for shoulders of the same exercise



Jay

fine

2set mmilitary press
1 or 2 set setaed bent-over laterals


happy

[Jay]

He still wouldn't be working the anterior, posterior, and medial heads...........He should throw in some side laterals and maybe a set of upright rows.......

Hey bro i noticed u didn't do traps whats up with that?

Jay

[high]

I do stiff deadlifts on leg day so im not doing regular deadlifts again:

What about this:

Back:
Wide grip pull ups - 3 sets
Seated Rows - 3 sets
Lat Pull downs - 3 sets

SHoulders:
DB military presses - 3 sets
Side Lateral Raises - 3 sets
Upright Rows - 3 Sets

Biceps
Standing curls - 3 sets
Hammer Curls - 2 sets
Preacher Curls - 2 sets

You guys were saying do bent over laterals instead of what?
What do you think/

[Jay]

Dude, too many sets.......

Read my post above, i told you what to do.......

Ah, nobody ever takes advice we just offer..


Jay

[amusclehead]

Originally posted by high
I do stiff deadlifts on leg day so im not doing regular deadlifts again:

What about this:

Back:
Wide grip pull ups - 3 sets
Seated Rows - 3 sets
Lat Pull downs - 3 sets

SHoulders:
DB military presses - 3 sets
Side Lateral Raises - 3 sets
Upright Rows - 3 Sets

Biceps
Standing curls - 3 sets
Hammer Curls - 2 sets
Preacher Curls - 2 sets

You guys were saying do bent over laterals instead of what?
What do you think/

well, if those were invidual days(i.e., m=back, w=bicep, etc..), i'd say okay, but that's too much volume for 1 day. My advice, drop the pulldowns, add 1 more of pullups. drop the seated rows and add bent-over rows(far superior to seated rows). drop the preacher curls and only do 4-5sets for shoulders.

Originally posted by Jay
He still wouldn't be working the anterior, posterior, and medial heads...........He should throw in some side laterals and maybe a set of upright rows.......

Hey bro i noticed u didn't do traps whats up with that?

Jay

I do traps on another day

ALl i do is 3sets of db shrugs. I keep it simple, nothing extreme, heh.

[high]

pull ups - 3 sets
db press - 3 sets
side lateral raises - 2 sets
bent over later - 2 sets
upright row - 2 sets
shrugs - 2 sets
standing curls - 3 sets
hammer curls 2 sets
preacher curls 2 sets

^hows that? still to much?

[amusclehead]

Originally posted by high
pull ups - 3 sets
db press - 3 sets
side lateral raises - 2 sets
bent over later - 2 sets
upright row - 2 sets
shrugs - 2 sets
standing curls - 3 sets
hammer curls 2 sets
preacher curls 2 sets

^hows that? still to much?

yes

do this:

wide-grip pullups,4
bent over rows,3
standing military press, 2
bent over laterals, 1
standing bb curl,3
hammer curl,2

[To(V)]

Just because two guys on a forum say your workout is too much, doesn't mean to say it actually is. Fair enough, by their training traditions it might be, but everyone has their own way of doing things, or at least they should, so I think you should just experiment.
I've been noticing some gains in the last 6 weeks and I've been lifting more sets to failure than that, and I've had no problems with feeling like I'm unable to progress, in that each week I improve.
As I said, we all respond differently. If you want to experiment with 12 sets for biceps, or with 8 sets for traps, then go ahead and try it.
At the end of the day, you're the only one it matters to.

Tom

[amusclehead]

i don't care what anybody says, 23sets is TOO much. There's no way you can do that in under an hour. Heh, and if you're training 4 or 5times a week, HELL NO!

I mean, i myself only do 17-18sets total, BUT, i do a full-body routine only 3x a week.

[Crazee_786]

are you guys saying that you should only be doing 4 sets for back? and those sets should be pullups???? wtf? i am just kinda confused.

[Original Poster]

Originally posted by amusclehead
i don't care what anybody says, 23sets is TOO much. There's no way you can do that in under an hour. Heh, and if you're training 4 or 5times a week, HELL NO!

I mean, i myself only do 17-18sets total, BUT, i do a full-body routine only 3x a week.

Ever here of GVT (German Volume Training). check it out. You may change your tune.

[Crazee_786]

Originally posted by Chi_town


Ever here of GVT (German Volume Training). check it out. You may change your tune.

thats for shi**y endurance training.

[amusclehead]

Originally posted by Chi_town


Ever here of GVT (German Volume Training). check it out. You may change your tune.

yawn, been there, done that. Worst gains of my life on that, haha. That's not geared toward hypertrophy as much as it is to endurance