Twice a day training.

Chuck@365 · 12-09-2007, 03:00 AM

Looking for the good and the bad on training twice a day.

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baker · 12-09-2007, 06:37 AM

By twice a day are you refering to lifting once and cardio once?

This is fine and accepted as normal.

However, lifting twice a day...that's a different story.

JOHN GARGANI · 12-09-2007, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by baker

By twice a day are you refering to lifting once and cardio once?

This is fine and accepted as normal.

However, lifting twice a day...that's a different story.

I agree: "different" but certainly, in some cases, acceptable: it is called DOUBLE SPLIT TRAINING.

regular Split training simply means doing different body parts on different days: Double split means different bodyparts at different times of the SAME DAY.

a very intense routine, but doable for certain and short periods of time...

joeohlandt · 12-09-2007, 09:42 AM

One would think that splitting lifting sessions into two parts a day would actually be beneficial, more energy increased metabolism etc. Just as split training with cardio would produce the same beneficial effects.

Where is the downside if your not repeating the same muscle strains, or even if you are to a small degree???

Appreciate your thoughts.

Chuck@365 · 03-15-2008, 06:08 PM

Cardio and Lifting twice a day is what I am going for.

I am not trying to get huge just stronger with greater endurance.

biggaz · 03-15-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHN GARGANI

I agree: "different" but certainly, in some cases, acceptable: it is called DOUBLE SPLIT TRAINING.

regular Split training simply means doing different body parts on different days: Double split means different bodyparts at different times of the SAME DAY.

a very intense routine, but doable for certain and short periods of time...

I've missed my leg day, due to a twinge in my back, so plan to w/o legs in the AM and chest in the PM, just to get back on schedule.

With enough food and rest between w/o's, I can't see any problems either.

ironmaidn4life · 03-15-2008, 08:00 PM

Due to work hours and life in general I have had to do this to get all my "body parts" in each week. It is doable, but beware of overtraining symptoms.

For contest prep it is a necessary evil, cardio is usually done in the AM and than weight training later in the day. Really depends on your goals. Best wishes to you.

dsharp9000 · 03-15-2008, 11:06 PM

I just started doing split training; but both workouts are short lasting 25 minutes.

I have a 4 part split for lifting (two day under a morning/evening workout) that takes 25 minutes a session that involves a lot of supersets of opposing body parts. I like the two shorter workouts as i can do more work in less time and they make me fool good after. I also incorporate a couple of cardio sessions in; but it is after i have done all my lifting split.

The shorter sessions give me more energy. Dont know if its the best science wise; but learned long ago do what works for you, makes you feel good, and keeps you motivated; and the shorter workouts do this for me even though there are two for each day.

my split is:

legs: morning

chest/back: evening

shoulders/tris/bi's: morning

deadlift/forearms: evning

this is followed by at least 2 cardio sessions morning and evening

I like it; but would say that if i had long sessions exceeding more than 30 minutes; it would probably be unmotivating to me.

oldsuperman · 03-15-2008, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck@365

Looking for the good and the bad on training twice a day.

YUCK!!!

Chuck@365 · 03-16-2008, 12:03 AM

Thanks for the replys, keep them coming.

I am still toying with this concept and will post my routine here once I get it going.

redweston · 03-16-2008, 04:45 AM

Damm, wish I had the time!

Keeponpumpin!- red

Stevelegh · 03-16-2008, 05:26 AM

Apparently the Copenhagen Muscle Reseach Centre has discovered that training the same muscle part twice a day doubles glycogen levels, but you only do half sessions, or in other words, divide the session into two parts.

So two sessions: Not good

Splitting one session into two with a 5 hour beak: Good

jocularric · 03-16-2008, 05:41 AM

I love double-split and triple-split training. I've made some of my best progress using these training techniques. Because of my work schedule I may not have time to get in a full hour or more in a single workout. Using the double-split I would workout 30 min during my lunch hour and then get another 30 after work. Some days I could get in 30 min before work too. I was energized for each workout and was able to push harder. The workouts were short keeping cortisol levels and catabolism low.

I would not do lengthy double splits though.

IR45N · 03-16-2008, 06:31 AM

If cardio & lifting are the 'two' sessions, sure, that's pretty normal. Two lifting sessions, imho would be mainly for the advanced + lifter (one of Baldsnake's old days posts talked about morning and afternoon sessions.).

I could also see it done for home trainers; for sessions that would be energy equal to one normal session. Rest then, would become even MORE important.

Driving to the gym twice for little more than 1/2 an hour; waste of gas, time, energy, soap, water, laundry, life..........

JOHN GARGANI · 03-16-2008, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck@365

Cardio and Lifting twice a day is what I am going for.

I am not trying to get huge just stronger with greater endurance.

Chuck, now that you have resurrected this thread, I will give you a newsflash:

You are NOT going to get huge! how do you like that!

and here is the rub: the rest of us who WANT to get huge, won't get huge either! LOL....

Life is a bitch!! ain't it! ROFLOL........

ntrllftr · 03-16-2008, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JOHN GARGANI

Chuck, now that you have resurrected this thread, I will give you a newsflash:

You are NOT going to get huge! how do you like that!

and here is the rub: the rest of us who WANT to get huge, won't get huge either! LOL....

Life is a bitch!! ain't it! ROFLOL........

Speak for yourself, in my mind I am HUUUGGEEEE!!!

Seriously, if your not looking to get "huge" and just stronger a split in one day is not necessary for you. Hit two muscle groups in one session. Also as IR45N said that type of training is for more like people such as Jay Cutler and such not us goofballs...

Just what methinks

Skidmarx · 03-16-2008, 06:49 AM

Twice a day sounds like a good way to over train.

Baldiewonkanobi · 03-16-2008, 07:16 AM

Like the great sages* of our time, The Barbarian Brothers, said...."No such thing as over training, just under rest and under nutrition". For a three month period we did this on Saturdays around the summer of '86. 7am hit Golds Venice beach for a two hour balls to the wall session on all the weak parts. Then breakfast at the Rose Cafe nearby for a plate of scrambled egg whites, oatmeal with raisins/dates/honey, a couple of bran muffins, coffee and orange juice. We would walk to the beach, cover with a huge towel not to burn and crash for a few hours. THEN....back to Golds and REPEAT the same regimine to the T. We were so ficken pumped we could hardly move....yet never over trained.

*Bet that rubbed a few of the serious fellows wrong....OK not sages....different and irreverant.

Yes I have always liked weights in the morning and a second cardio session in the evening. Keeps the fires burning during contest prep time.