i used to do my usual workout
Doing 12 sets for each muscle group except for biceps.
However i heard that there is no need to do exactly 12. You can do as much as you can with sets. Train until failure.
When i mentioned overtraining they told me there is no such thing. And this is the only way to grow.
Also vary exerices for Muscle groups. Do not repeat workouts that are outdated.
Is this true?
Discuss.
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10-08-2005, 01:35 PM #1
There is no such thing as overtraining?
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10-08-2005, 01:57 PM #2
i think overtraining is were say on monday u get a really good bicep workout then on tuesday u get another 1 and ur muscles dont have time to heal so ur just "ripping" ur muscles again so basically mondays workout would have been pointless. Some people take overtraining to serious and arent getting enough of a workout.
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10-08-2005, 01:58 PM #3
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overtraining is real you dont want to overtrain certain muscle groups such as biceps / triceps for example if ur doing chest/tri there is no need for using 12 total sets for triceps since u are using your triceps when you do chest movements... and also when u do back/bi you should end up with 9 sets for bi/tri and 12 sets for back/chest/ and shoulders
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10-08-2005, 02:06 PM #4
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10-08-2005, 02:37 PM #6
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No there is no need to do exactly 12... it isn't some magic number in body building. However doing 12 sets per muscle group, if you've trained hard enough, should be all you need. It breaks down typically to 3 exercises with 4 sets, or 4 exercises with 3 sets. Within that exercise/set scheme, train as hard as you can. This should be enough to get you where you wanna go.
You could do more in one training day, but after a certain point... it becomes pointless. You want to get a good pump going which will force nutrient-rich blood into your muscles, which in turn will make them rebuild bigger and stronger. Training until it burns like crazy or gets really sore doesn't get you anywhere.
As for your second question, variety is huge. There are classic exercises which are always great. But if you keep doing the same old, same old... your body will eventually adapt and your gains will slowly come to a schreeching halt. So by mixing things up, you keep shocking your muscles and presenting them with new challenges. It's a sure way to keep things going on the right track.Shut up and train. - ANIMALPAK.com
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10-08-2005, 03:15 PM #7
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10-08-2005, 03:19 PM #8
Overtraining is very real. People don't understand that not onyl can you overtrain your muscles, but your CNS as well. There are limitations for each individual. Some can grow off hitting everything very hard twice a week with outrageous numbers of sets. Others, like myself, overtrain with too many sets and do much better with one main set. Experiment and find what works best. Take a little time off every now and again to let your CNS recover, as well.
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10-08-2005, 03:21 PM #9
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10-08-2005, 03:21 PM #10
Overtraining is a combonation of bad diet, bad sleep schedule and training to hard to often. And overtraining doesnt happen overnight. Its just your body being totally worn out.
Working biceps two days in a row isnt overtraining, its stupid. If you do a little reading you can figure all this stuff out.
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10-08-2005, 03:22 PM #11
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