I am going to start dosing today and start training tomorrow. Life has been pretty sub-par the last 2 weeks, high stress of exams and projects, and i have been sick and not been able to go to the gym at all.
I will be running this at 6 caps per day for 40 days.
I do not have a scale, other than the one at the gym, and my weight varies an extremely large amount from the morning to mid day. That being said, i am in the neighborhood of 195. bf is unknown, but around 15%.
Stats
Age-19
Weight-195
height-6'2"
right arm-16
left arm-16
waist-36
chest-46
My training split is
Mon-Back/abs
Tues-Legs
Weds-Chest
Thurs-Off or cardio
Fri-Shoulders/Traps
Sat-Bis/Tris
Sun-Off or Cardio
On my cardio/off days i hardly ever do cardio. On Tuesdays for 2-3 more weeks i have flag football and will be moving my leg days to thursdays and count FF as cardio. Walking to classes takes a total of about 1 hour per day for 5 days a week.
My diet will be the same thing everyday with no cheat meals, it has been this way for the last month and a half. if i do "cheat" it will be with a food that has the same macros of something else and will be more of a substitute than a cheat.
Meal 1-8:30 or 9:00
1 scoop WPI
¾ C Egg beaters
¼ C oatmeal
Cals-265
Protein-45
Carbs-18
Fat-2
Meal 2-11:00
2/3 San Infusion
5 G fish oil
2 Tbsp Lecithin
Cals-330
Protein-31
Carbs-7
Fat-19
Meal 3-1:00
7 oz chicken
Veggies (asparagus, broccoli, green beans, spinach)
Salad
Cals-225
Protein-45
Carbs-0
Fat-2
Meal 4-2:00 (pre work out)
1 scoop WPI
Cals-100
Protein-24
Carbs-1
Fat-0
Meal 4.5-during work out
15 g BCAA
Cals-60
Protein-15
Carbs-0
Fat-0
Meal 5-4:00 (post work out)
2 scoops WPI
20 g simple carbs
1/2c oats
Cals-430
Protein-48
Carbs-47
Fat-3
Meal 6-5:00-5:30
7 oz chicken
1 serving whole wheat pasta
Veggies
Salad
Cals-445
Protein-52
Carbs-44
Fat-4
Meal 7-8:00
½ C Egg beaters
1 piece FF cheese
1 Tbsp Peanut butter
½ low carb tortilla
Cals-195
Protien-49
Carbs-12
Fat-10
Meal 8-11:00
2 scoops Casein Blend
5 G fish oil
2 Tbsp Lecithin
Cals-315
Protein-40
Carbs-6
Fat-13
Total
Cals-2400
Protein-330—57%
Crbs-139—23%
Fat-52—20%
Current Supps:
AMP-Ergopharm
Thermal Rage
E
C
Synephrine
Green Tea
NAC
Choline
Inositol
Lecithin
Selenium
Chocomine
Rhodolia Rosea
Piracetam
Brain Drive-Omega
Neurostim + C-Scivation
Taurine
DL Phenalalynine
Magnesium Citrate
Pre workout-XPAND-Dymatize
PWO-Bulk CEE
Dymatize Iso 100
SAN Infusion
TP.com blend-60% MPI, 20% Cassein, 20% Egg White
the neurostim and AMP are not taken regularly, but mostly everything else is.
I will be taking the Melting Point at 11 am, 6 pm, 12 pm
I think that covers everything, if you have any questions, feel free to ask
Last edited by italionstallion; 10-02-2005 at 09:19 AM.
Gosh that's not a lot of cals........good luck with this.
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Thanks, actually some one else said that to me about my cals, but it didnt really seem too low. if you guys think it is, i can always add some oats pre work out or tuna pre workout. i could also up the fat by doing 2 tbsp pb instead of 1, doesnt really matter, but with any of these things id be getting up close to 2500 cals.....
Everybody should buy some chocolate BSL flavoring, take about 1/4 tsp of it, mix it with a tbsp of PB, and spread it on whatever you use....its sooooo good, like a reeses sandwich mmmmmmmmmm
It does seem like a lot of supps, but i don really use any of them everyday other than the basics--grean tea, fish oil, multi. all the stims and nootropics are taken only when i need to. the other supps like selenium and choline and inositol are just for a little bit of overall health. if you look them up, they are all really cheap, so its not a big deal....imo
Last edited by italionstallion; 10-02-2005 at 09:26 AM.
Thanks, actually some one else said that to me about my cals, but it didnt really seem too low. if you guys think it is, i can always add some oats pre work out or tuna pre workout. i could also up the fat by doing 2 tbsp pb instead of 1, doesnt really matter, but with any of these things id be getting up close to 2500 cals.....
Everybody should buy some chocolate BSL flavoring, take about 1/4 tsp of it, mix it with a tbsp of PB, and spread it on whatever you use....its sooooo good, like a reeses sandwich mmmmmmmmmm
It does seem like a lot of supps, but i don really use any of them everyday other than the basics--grean tea, fish oil, multi. all the stims and nootropics are taken only when i need to. the other supps like selenium and choline and inositol are just for a little bit of overall health. if you look them up, they are all really cheap, so its not a big deal....imo
Thanks for the tip bro, and best of luck with your MP log.
IMO, you are taking an insane amount of supps and relying on them rather than your diet. you diet is pretty out of whack for your weight. you should be consuming 3000 or more calories. why are you taking all of those supplements? they seem like total overkill and i doubt they have much of an effect on anything. all you really need is multi, whey, and maybe a cell volumizer and/or prework out energy supplement. i dunno, just fix you diet. you arent going to get anywhere on 2400 calories, unless you are trying to lose a lot of weight...but your post doesnt really say what exactly your goal is.
IMO, you are taking an insane amount of supps and relying on them rather than your diet. you diet is pretty out of whack for your weight. you should be consuming 3000 or more calories. why are you taking all of those supplements? they seem like total overkill and i doubt they have much of an effect on anything. all you really need is multi, whey, and maybe a cell volumizer and/or prework out energy supplement. i dunno, just fix you diet. you arent going to get anywhere on 2400 calories, unless you are trying to lose a lot of weight...but your post doesnt really say what exactly your goal is.
i understand what your saying, but dont look so much at how long the list is, look at each thing
other than protein, this is what im taking
AMP-Ergopharm--twice a week
Thermal Rage--occasionally for energy boost
E---occasionally for energy
C---occasionally for energy
Synephrine---occasionally for energy
Green Tea---always for health
NAC----always for health
Choline----always for health
Inositol----always for health
Lecithin----always for health
Selenium---always for health
Chocomine---about 5 times a week
Rhodolia Rosea---5 times a week
Piracetam----5 times a week
Brain Drive-Omega----about 3-4 times a week
Neurostim + C-Scivation---hardly ever, used it about twice in the last month
Taurine---always
DL Phenalalynine----always
Magnesium Citrate---always
if you think that there is anything in there that should not be taken, please let me know, personally i dont see a problem with any of it, and dont think i am relying on supps to do anything other than provide an overally better health. everything up there was recommended to me based on my conditions by someone i trust and respect very much.
as far as my diet, i'll bump it up 150 cals, but this is a cutting diet...i figured you would be able to figure that out since i am testing MELTING POINT-> a supplement that is used to aid in cutting!!!
You say fix my diet, what do you recommend? simply increasing cals? anything specific that could actually help, or just a vague comment? maybe you could post your diet so i have something to reference? i gurantee you that if i eat 3000 cals i will not lose any weight and very possibly could gain weight.
i understand you are trying to help, but the way i see your post is very negative, like you are saying i have no clue what im doing and everything i posted is wrong---basically that i'm a moron.
please elaborate on some things, if you think i should drop a supplement state why. if you think my diet sucks, state why.
i dont see a "problem" with taking them other than money. i dont see that all of this has that much of an added benefit to you. i dont think its hurting anything by taking this many supplements other than your wallet. you could invest your money in supplements that really make a difference being multivitamin, whey, creatine, and perhaps a test booster and whatever energy boost you would need. imo, the best natural energy booster is some good fast acting carbs in a protein shake before you hit the gym. i dont know, its just my opinion.
i dont see a "problem" with taking them other than money. i dont see that all of this has that much of an added benefit to you. i dont think its hurting anything by taking this many supplements other than your wallet. you could invest your money in supplements that really make a difference being multivitamin, whey, creatine, and perhaps a test booster and whatever energy boost you would need. imo, the best natural energy booster is some good fast acting carbs in a protein shake before you hit the gym. i dont know, its just my opinion.
gotcha, that definitely makes a lot more sense than before.
the supps listed are all pretty cheap, and made cheaper by the fact i buy them in powder and cap them myself.
the reason for having different supps that do the same thing---thermal rage, E, C, Synephrine, is so i can rotate days so my body doesnt get used to one thing...also in doing this i am able to stretch out the supplements. I have had the same bottle of E and thermal rage for over a month
gotcha, that definitely makes a lot more sense than before.
the supps listed are all pretty cheap, and made cheaper by the fact i buy them in powder and cap them myself.
the reason for having different supps that do the same thing---thermal rage, E, C, Synephrine, is so i can rotate days so my body doesnt get used to one thing...also in doing this i am able to stretch out the supplements. I have had the same bottle of E and thermal rage for over a month
listen, what ever works for you do it. if you have the extra cash then hey, more power to you! i know you have done your research, as long as your not hurting yourself then dont worry to much about it! good luck with the MP
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goal: 200 pounds @ 9% bf
***superdrol cycle coming soon to a log near you***
nothing to report as far as sides or noticing anything from MP
i was soooo happy to get back into the gym, this was my first time in the gym in TWO WEEKS. i have been sick for a while, and started feeling better on friday, and feel back to normal today. i definitely felt a little weak, but not a huge difference.
everything i do i try to make sure i get peak contraction and hold it. i am finally realizing that i dont give a **** about weight and how much i can put up, i am interested in bodybuilding and how i look
back
Straight leg deads
135 x 15 (warm up)
225 x 10 x 12 x 10
wide grip pull ups
x 8 x 8 x 6
chin ups
x 8 x 7 x 6
close grip low cable row
120 x 12 x 9
wide grip low cable row
90 x 9 x 9
Rotary lat pull down
180 x 7 x 7 x 7
laying inc lever rows
over hand
70 x 9 (bad form)
45 x 10
under hand
45 x 8 x 8
finished in 55 min, drank about 40 oz of fluid, 16 gm of bcaa's started at half way point, finished the last 2-3 gulps as i walked out of the door
i am finally realizing that i dont give a **** about weight and how much i can put up, i am interested in bodybuilding and how i look
I dig it
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i will post them later tonight if i get everything done, if not, they will be up tomorrow.
i took them, i just need to adjust some things
Like pasting your head on Ronnie Coleman's body?
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Doesn't work for DS, works with Matt.
Although a physician, my place in here at bb.com is as a fitness enthusiast and recommendations do not represent medical advice. Please consult your examining physician for all medical concerns.
Before listening to any rep, realize this:
1) Most are no more credentialed than you. 2) Most have no input and no understanding of their product formulations. 3) Most are merely paid in free product from the company they represent.
if you want to see my progress from when i started, go to BN, i am in their member pics section
let me start off by saying i suck at posing, lol. to make matters a little more difficult, i had to take the pics myself with the timer on my camera, the angle is off a little in each pic, and it was tough to get into a good flex for the right time the pic was actually taken.
Not bad, looks like your physique is coming along, hopefully MP will get you to where you want even quicker.
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Doesn't work for DS, works with Matt.
Although a physician, my place in here at bb.com is as a fitness enthusiast and recommendations do not represent medical advice. Please consult your examining physician for all medical concerns.
Before listening to any rep, realize this:
1) Most are no more credentialed than you. 2) Most have no input and no understanding of their product formulations. 3) Most are merely paid in free product from the company they represent.
Nothing to really report today. My back is super sore, but feels good. I didnt lift, but i did play flag football. I will hit legs on thursday.
I am trying to tell if i am hotter than usuall, but so far havent really noticed anything. It was hot out today, and i was definitely sweating more than i have the last few days, but i think it was the heat, not the MP.....
Last edited by italionstallion; 10-05-2005 at 05:59 PM.
Chest and abs
Flat BB Bench
135 x 11
wide grip (hands about 3" outside of rings) 155 x 6 x 6
close grip (index fingers on rings) 135 x 6 x 5
Incline BB Bench
135 x 7 x 5
drop sets 115 x 6
95 x 6
Seated Fly Machine
125 x 7
112.5 x 8 x 8
Decline DB Press
45 x 6
40 x 6
drop sets 35 x 6
25 x 6
Weighted crunches
x 20 x 20 x 15
weighted decline crunches
x 10 x 10 x 10
weighted side bends on incline
right
x 15 x 15
left
x 15 x 15
Comments: WOW. Never imagined weights would drop that much...but oh well. I guess i would call it a good workout because my chest is totally shot, but weigths were way down. last time i lifted chest-3 weeks ago-i was hitting 195 x 8 on flat bench....my form wasnt as good, but either way, thats a big drop. everything felt good. on a side note, i have lossed a 1/2 " on my arms in the last 3 weeks!!! but definition has gone up...so some muscle, some fat
cant say i have noticed anything from MP as of yet, maybe in a few days i will. actually sweating might be slightly higher, but i dont feel "hotter", if sweating is more, it is only slightly more
These losses are perceived to be due to your time off/illness and not the MP, correct?
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Doesn't work for DS, works with Matt.
Although a physician, my place in here at bb.com is as a fitness enthusiast and recommendations do not represent medical advice. Please consult your examining physician for all medical concerns.
Before listening to any rep, realize this:
1) Most are no more credentialed than you. 2) Most have no input and no understanding of their product formulations. 3) Most are merely paid in free product from the company they represent.
These losses are perceived to be due to your time off/illness and not the MP, correct?
yep, while i was sick my diet was way off. not off as in i was eating a bunch of junk, but off as in i wasnt eating much at all, low protein, low carbs, low fat, im guessing i would eat 4-5 times a day, maybe 2-250 cals each "meal"
stationary bike
13 min of moderate intensity level 11
2 min cool dow
Comments: Great work out, but i think i pushed a little too hard. I have a really bad knee and have had surgery on it. squats are waayyy out of the question, and leg press is not performed at a full ROM. my quads are totally destroyed, and it feels great The bad knee is the reason for high reps, but intensity is still high. i am totally shot and am gonna be going to sleep early tonight so i can get in a solid shoulder/trap workout tomorrow
so far no sides to speak of, not much else i can think of to report...
I dont know if its just me or not, but my acne has increased since starting MP....maybe its just that im touching my face more and im not paying attention/noticing it, but what ever it is, acne has definitely gone up
I dont know if its just me or not, but my acne has increased since starting MP....maybe its just that im touching my face more and im not paying attention/noticing it, but what ever it is, acne has definitely gone up
I've not heard that side yet, but if you're sweating more than normal it's surely possible.
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Doesn't work for DS, works with Matt.
Although a physician, my place in here at bb.com is as a fitness enthusiast and recommendations do not represent medical advice. Please consult your examining physician for all medical concerns.
Before listening to any rep, realize this:
1) Most are no more credentialed than you. 2) Most have no input and no understanding of their product formulations. 3) Most are merely paid in free product from the company they represent.
Would acne appear after only 5 days if it were the MP? Just thinking that is too soon for the whole zit process to kick in.
I concur, unless he's a "sweaty kid" normally.
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Although a physician, my place in here at bb.com is as a fitness enthusiast and recommendations do not represent medical advice. Please consult your examining physician for all medical concerns.
Before listening to any rep, realize this:
1) Most are no more credentialed than you. 2) Most have no input and no understanding of their product formulations. 3) Most are merely paid in free product from the company they represent.
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