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    Thanks, man I cannot get over the BCAA thing though, I always thought on a keto diet or low carb diet such as this would be the OPTIMAL time to take a BCAA Supp. I gotta do somemore research or read his FAQ on this subject, because it goes completely against what I've always heard. Do you think this would HARM ones progress by taking this during w/o?

    Any recommended stims since you think some are good and some aren't?

    Very interested in this thread. Good work on bringing this diet up.

    1. I don't remember what forum it is in, but somewhere there is a sticky that is called something like "BCAA Roundtable or something or other" and it has 4-5 experts debating BCAA topics. They know much more than I do. I was just guessing as to why he doesn't recommend them.

    2. The write-up mentions clenbuterol and cytomel. I'm thinking any of the more powerful fat-burners out there would be fine, as would non-stimulants. I just think he is trying to get at the fact that ingesting loads of caffeine daily is probably doing more in the way of cortisol release than it is in actual fat loss. That probably isn't true for the more powerful things out there.
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    Originally Posted by getbustered View Post
    1. I don't remember what forum it is in, but somewhere there is a sticky that is called something like "BCAA Roundtable or something or other" and it has 4-5 experts debating BCAA topics. They know much more than I do. I was just guessing as to why he doesn't recommend them.

    2. The write-up mentions clenbuterol and cytomel. I'm thinking any of the more powerful fat-burners out there would be fine, as would non-stimulants. I just think he is trying to get at the fact that ingesting loads of caffeine daily is probably doing more in the way of cortisol release than it is in actual fat loss. That probably isn't true for the more powerful things out there.
    very interesting but i know for a fact that Dave do allows BCAA's on this diet and while cutting because Evan Centopani used them on his cardio sessions prepping for his show...I'm also using them on my contest prep. right now,using 20 scoops of Xtend per day and definetly aims on fat loss...

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    im only using about 10-15 grams of leucine preworkout
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    im only using about 10-15 grams of leucine preworkout
    Are you using this diet Matty...I'm not using this diet but i'm low-carbing anyway...

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    Originally Posted by SickBoy_Cage View Post
    Are you using this diet Matty...I'm not using this diet but i'm low-carbing anyway...
    im more on a layne norton type diet and leaning up really quick

    when i reach the 9-10% bf area i find it difficult to lose bodyfat and i will then switch to this.. my guess is 8-12 weeks out..
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    im more on a layne norton type diet and leaning up really quick

    when i reach the 9-10% bf area i find it difficult to lose bodyfat and i will then switch to this.. my guess is 8-12 weeks out..
    What's a layne norton diet???LOL
    I'm 10 weeks out,9%,i'm guessing i'm still a little behind...

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    Originally Posted by SickBoy_Cage View Post
    What's a layne norton diet???LOL
    I'm 10 weeks out,9%,i'm guessing i'm still a little behind...
    40/40/20 sorta

    are you running any fat burners..
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    40/40/20 sorta

    are you running any fat burners..
    That's good for natties who diet for like 30 weeks...I get burned out if i diet for more then 12

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    Originally Posted by SickBoy_Cage View Post
    That's good for natties who diet for like 30 weeks...I get burned out if i diet for more then 12
    my second show i would have been dieting for 24 weeks.. im expecting shredded glutes
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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    my second show i would have been dieting for 24 weeks.. im expecting shredded glutes
    If i were to diet 24 weeks i would probably make 12 weeks at maintainance to lean out quite a bit and perhaps even add some mass and 12 weeks seriously cutting and in 24 weeks i would expect nothing less then striated glutes Gaspari style

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    If i were to diet 24 weeks i would probably make 12 weeks at maintainance to lean out quite a bit and perhaps even add some mass and 12 weeks seriously cutting and in 24 weeks i would expect nothing less then striated glutes Gaspari style
    LOL if i had that.. i better win the damn mens overall
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    Originally Posted by SickBoy_Cage View Post
    very interesting but i know for a fact that Dave do allows BCAA's on this diet and while cutting because Evan Centopani used them on his cardio sessions prepping for his show...I'm also using them on my contest prep. right now,using 20 scoops of Xtend per day and definetly aims on fat loss...
    holy crap.... 20 a day? do you do refeeds on your cut?
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    LOL if i had that.. i better win the damn mens overall
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    Get inspired
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    Originally Posted by kstufff View Post
    holy crap.... 20 a day?
    Makes it easier to get down 2 gallons of water per day ,plus i'm doing 2 cardio sessions of 45 minutes each per day...

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    Makes it easier to get down 2 gallons of water per day ,plus i'm doing 2 cardio sessions of 45 minutes each per day...
    are you doing a dave palumbo kind of diet? refeeds? low intensity or high cardio?

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    Originally Posted by kstufff View Post
    are you doing a dave palumbo kind of diet? refeeds? low intensity or high cardio?
    No,i'm not doing the palumbo diet nor i intend too,one carb meal per week really heavy on carbs...High cardio???not a shot in hell,i like my muscle too much,so the answer is low intensity cardio all the way...

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    No,i'm not doing the palumbo diet nor i intend too,one carb meal per week really heavy on carbs...High cardio???not a shot in hell,i like my muscle too much,so the answer is low intensity cardio all the way...
    isnt that the same as palumbos diet? was kind of macros are you at? Would stairs, inclined treadmills at a walking pace be low intensity?

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    Originally Posted by kstufff View Post
    isnt that the same as palumbos diet? was kind of macros are you at? Would stairs, inclined treadmills at a walking pace be low intensity?
    I'm at 500 garms of protein daily,100-150 grams of carbs per day,will decrease the carbs in next weeks...I do slightly incline treadmill at 3.5 mhp with heart rate at 120 bpm...

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    Originally Posted by SickBoy_Cage View Post
    I'm at 500 garms of protein daily,100-150 grams of carbs per day,will decrease the carbs in next weeks...I do slightly incline treadmill at 3.5 mhp with heart rate at 120 bpm...
    how bout fat? also, any benefits from using a sauna during a cut? so your at 100-150 carbs + a high carb meal once a week?
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    Originally Posted by kstufff View Post
    how bout fat? also, any benefits from using a sauna during a cut?
    very low-fat,i don't dig in fat at all,good or trans...Saune Don't really has many benefits,only for skin purposes and to get rid off water...

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    Originally Posted by SickBoy_Cage View Post
    very low-fat,i don't dig in fat at all,good or trans...Saune Don't really has many benefits,only for skin purposes and to get rid off water...
    ah. we all are different, i guess i have to find what works for me Your diet got you to under 10 % bf?

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    What does that have to do with anything?
    The type of cardio you do is independent on what diet your on... One does not require the other.

    Maybe you've been misreading everything those folks have been saying

    Originally Posted by -Aaron- View Post
    Low-Intense Steady States aka The Fat Burning Zone.
    Kickin your azz everytime

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    dude this is just like a keto diet, but he has specific dos and don'ts.

    for me, when i do keto, i preferably do HIIT. i get the same results of LOW intensity cardio in half the time and my conditioning improves. the 120 bpm is a guideline cuz i think his clients are older. if u're in ur 20s, ur 60something% is 130.

    from 240 to 220, i did 2 carb up days losing. from 220 to 210 i did 1 carb up day. losing ~2 lbs a week on the way and my strength going up.

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    Originally Posted by SickBoy_Cage View Post
    very low-fat,i don't dig in fat at all,good or trans...Saune Don't really has many benefits,only for skin purposes and to get rid off water...
    what do you think about milk on a cut?

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    Originally Posted by kstufff View Post
    what do you think about milk on a cut?
    NO WAY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IRl9WnpXkE&fmt=18

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    Originally Posted by Sick View Post
    NO WAY
    sarcasm?

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