BSN being sued. NO ACTIVE INGREDIENTS!!!

[extremenergy3]

Well, at least syntha-6 tastes good. LOL (expensive chocolate milk? NOOOO!!!)

[massakre]

Oh the brainwashed BSN lovers at my school are going to love this

[killswitch226]

The only problem is this news seems to be isolated to this forum, so BSN will still generate massive profits off their garbage regardless of the test rresult. The validity of this claim, however, must be questioned before anyone jumps to any conclusions.

i will still finish cellmass though.. (expensive glutamine?)

[Sqwivivol]

The only problem is this news seems to be isolated to this forum, so BSN will still generate massive profits off their garbage regardless of the test rresult. The validity of this claim, however, must be questioned before anyone jumps to any conclusions.

i will still finish cellmass though.. (expensive glutamine?)

maybe we should inform CNN so that the masses are aware!

since cellmass doesnt hav CEM3 it might just be generic overpriced CEE... i dno

[V5RED]

technically this letter proves nothing.....unless i missed some lab reports in there, this is just a letter telling bsn that some attorneys have clients who believe that bsn deceived them by pretending to add a possibly non existent form of creatine....CEM3...it also doesnt say that there isnt any creatine in it...just that CEM3 doesnt exist and therefore cant be in it...which may be a lie as well...we will have to wait for the results of the lawsuit to know

it could just be some ppl looking to make a buck off of a quickly rising company

[Sqwivivol]

it could just be some ppl looking to make a buck off of a quickly rising company

true. thats the American way.

[Buff_Daddy]

technically this letter proves nothing.....unless i missed some lab reports in there, this is just a letter telling bsn that some attorneys have clients who believe that bsn deceived them by pretending to add a possibly non existent form of creatine....CEM3...it also doesnt say that there isnt any creatine in it...just that CEM3 doesnt exist and therefore cant be in it...which may be a lie as well...we will have to wait for the results of the lawsuit to know

it could just be some ppl looking to make a buck off of a quickly rising company

thank you... what you just posted is entirely different than what the thread starter suggested that their products contain no active ingredients. People please get the facts first!

[sanpedro]

BSN = Bull $h!t Nutrition ?

[Kumquatv1]

Well, that explains why I never purchased from BSN in the first place heh

[V5RED]

i reported this thread to the mods since it clearly is a misinformed bashing of BSN

if real proof surfaces then its fine to claim such things as are claimed in this thread, but this is just libel

[Mr M5]

Makes ya wonder what Ronnie Coleman was really taking

[caveatemptor]

i reported this thread to the mods since it clearly is a misinformed bashing of BSN

if real proof surfaces then its fine to claim such things as are claimed in this thread, but this is just libel

I think you have that bass ackwards. A lawsuit was filed, alleging that an important ingredient in a product is missing. People came into the thread and pointed out that the allegations of the plaintiff could be true or false. Covering up that a lawsuit is taking place, however, defeats the purpose of this board. Are you saying that the lawsuit is not taking place? Or are you saying that pending lawsuits are not appropriate fodder for our discussion? Why not? Who made you the forum gestapo?

[liftjunkie06]

does this mean i'll get the ?60 i wasted on Nitrix back?

X2. i just bought a big one (60 serving) about 2 weeks ago.

[V5RED]

I think you have that bass ackwards. A lawsuit was filed, alleging that an important ingredient in a product is missing. People came into the thread and pointed out that the allegations of the plaintiff could be true or false. Covering up that a lawsuit is taking place, however, defeats the purpose of this board. Are you saying that the lawsuit is not taking place? Or are you saying that pending lawsuits are not appropriate fodder for our discussion? Why not? Who made you the forum gestapo?

the original post claimed that the products contain no active ingredients at all...he had NO PROOF of that...the letter only covered the possibility of the impossibility of a particular ingredient being included due to its nonexistence

most likely if the lawsuit is correct then although it did not contaim CEM3 it contained CEE or some other creatine form...but people here claim it contains none...this was not in the article(unless i missed it upon reading it twice)

it would be one thing if ppl talked about the lawsuit, but the fact is ppl were not

people were not only talking about the guilty verdict(which based on the information in this thread doesn't even exist) but also as if this guilty verdict covered far more than the lawsuit actually does

i do not suggest a coverup, i simply am against libel in any form...claiming that the products contain no active ingredients without any proof of that is something that needs to be brought to the mods' attention

[Shaggytph]

It's not BSN's fault you continued buying their products with no results. 5x though? Say about 30 servings each.. thats 5 months. Honestly did you see a difference?

exactly man. i'm not blaming them; they got me good with their ads and ****. in the end i was the one buying the products. did i see a difference? somewhat; i will tell you this though. i've seen more results with 1 tub of NO shotgun than i did with all the tubs of no-ex and cellmass combined

[Anssi Manninen]

Oh my..

[jf85]

Well i wonder how no x-plode could win so many "muscle builder of the year" awards if it doesn't work,maybe it still works for some people.

I guess I'm gonna give it a try anyway.

[JackG]

doesnt it say that even though there is no CEM3 in it, there is still monohydrate in the products?

[Sldge]

This is crazy, they are a huge national brand I wold expect better quality control.

At first I thought it was just they had 1.3g creatine mono intead of 3g cee, but to have almost no active ingredients blows my mind.

I wasnt joking when I said less then 90% of the industry follows a standard for quality control. And why would they change, they are one of the best selling brands out there and siunce they dont put any ingredients in their products they make TONS of profit.

placebo effect on all of u bsn lovers

Thats awesome.

Hahaha owned.

I was thinking the same thing.

[liftjunkie06]

Well i wonder how no x-plode could win so many "muscle builder of the year" awards if it doesn't work,maybe it still works for some people.

I guess I'm gonna give it a try anyway.

The same way Xtend won glutamine product of the year--hype. It's from votes, from hype.

[ronnie0072]

It's a terrible thing to do but I'm still going to be using Syntha-6 and Atro-Phex regardless cause I've seen results...

well ya your a bsn guy...

[pclerico]

I thought it was Cellmass that was giving me my great gains in size and strength. I guess it was just the vitamins and protein then. I wonder what is going to happen when I take CL Green Mag??? I guess I will get even bigger and stronger
Wonder if the lawsuit is one if the consumers will get any type of refund? I doubt it but it would be nice.

[fireman9170]

ud probably find that a ton of supplements we spend money on do NOT have what they say or do what they say, thats why the FDA doesnt have anything to do with them I guess, we all get owned each time we buy this stuff, but it does make you fell all warm and fuzzy inside when you buy it!!

[Patrick Arnold]

This is crazy, they are a huge national brand I wold expect better quality control.

At first I thought it was just they had 1.3g creatine mono intead of 3g cee, but to have almost no active ingredients blows my mind.

CEE degrades to creatinine in presence of water and the higher the pH the faster it does so. a malate (if such a product can even exist) would be pretty unstable in the presence of water - much more so then the more acidic traditional hydrochloride salt. powdered products often are hygroscopic, which means they will pick up some water from the atmosphere (this is why they often clump) and if this happened to a CEE malate product i would predict after not very long you would be left with little more than creatinine malate.

[Kernkraft]

...if this were true...how did Ronnie Coleman get so big...

I don't believe it, next there going to be telling me that Cutler really doesn't use CellTech

You obviously missed the memo when he got his name mentioned under the client list for balco...

[aiming45]

...if this were true...how did Ronnie Coleman get so big...

I don't believe it, next there going to be telling me that Cutler really doesn't use CellTech

Best laugh of the day for me. Nice one.

[Patrick Arnold]

technically this letter proves nothing.....unless i missed some lab reports in there, this is just a letter telling bsn that some attorneys have clients who believe that bsn deceived them by pretending to add a possibly non existent form of creatine....CEM3...it also doesnt say that there isnt any creatine in it...just that CEM3 doesnt exist and therefore cant be in it...which may be a lie as well...we will have to wait for the results of the lawsuit to know

it could just be some ppl looking to make a buck off of a quickly rising company

where are the studies substantiating the claims that their mysterious form of creatine is superior to all other forms?

as a competitor, i find it distressing when another company takes business away from me by lying.

I guess companies that don't have the balls to lie just have to bite the bullet, is that it?

[raysmith]

...if this were true...how did Ronnie Coleman get so big...

I don't believe it, next there going to be telling me that Cutler really doesn't use CellTech

Seriously, ask Coleman in person what supplement he uses, he will say CNP. (serious)

[Patrick Arnold]

Well i wonder how no x-plode could win so many "muscle builder of the year" awards if it doesn't work,maybe it still works for some people.

i hate to break it to you but those awards are based on sales and sales are based more upon marketing budgets than product efficacy

the best products in this industry are ones that probably never even make it to the shelves in most stores

[Patrick Arnold]

You obviously missed the memo when he got his name mentioned under the client list for balco...

hey where did you see the client list? i thought that was protected evidence