I'm not sure where else to post this, so here goes. Is anyone out there a personal trainer? I'd like to become "licensed", and was wondering if anyone else out there does it, how you go about getting your license, and how the income is? I live in Ohio. Thanks.
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Thread: Personal trainer...?
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09-23-2005, 09:27 PM #1
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09-23-2005, 09:43 PM #2
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there are 1001 different certifications out there, but only a few respectible ones . you really need to do your research for your local area to get a better fix.......but really, p/t'ing is just about charisma - making people stay and getting more in. That's why you see so many fat/skinny non-trainres as personal trainres, because, for the most part, it's about charisma and sales generation
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09-24-2005, 10:01 AM #3
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09-24-2005, 11:27 AM #4
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How well you do as a personal trainer depends on many things. Charisma is important, but so is your knowledge, education, salesmanship, if your area is receptive to personal training, and the demographics/income level of your area. Most of us hate the "sales" end of being a trainer, but you do have to sell yourself to a certain extent, but charisma is also part of that. All the charisma in the world won't do you or your clients much good if you can't get them real and lasting results, so a good education should be your priority. You need to have a solid base of knowledge in anatomy, physiology, biomechanics, program design (and not what you read in the magazines), etc. This doesn't necessarily mean getting a degree, but you may need to study more than the basic personal training certifications have in their study guides and manuals.
Now, concerning licensing.......a license isn't a requirement anywhere in the US yet, but you should get certified by one of the top certifying agencies. There's dozens of certs out there, but most are of questionable value to put it mildly.
The "gold standards" in the industry are the American College of Sports Medicine(ACSM)-HFI and the National Strength and Conditioning Association(NSCA)-CSCS, and after that, the good certs would include NSCA-CPT, American Council on Exercise(ACE)-CPT, ACSM-CPT and International Sports Sciences Association(ISSA)-CFT.
There are many others that make a lot of claims about how great they are, but when you look at their curriculum, testing procedures, affiliations etc., they fall far short of the top certs.
The requirements for obtaining these certs varies, so you may want to look up their websites and see which fits you the best.
Also, if you plan on working for a gym, you will need to see which certs the gym recognizes.
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09-24-2005, 12:00 PM #16
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Personal trainers are good if you are one or a combination of the following:
1. Illiterate
2. Have no hands, arms, etc (think about it)
3. Severly retarded
4. Some jappy bitch spending daddy's money (jewish american princess)
5. like hearing someone talk about themselves
6. like talking and not working out but don't have any friends at the gym
8. suffer from chronic short term memory loss
9. don't know how to count
10. truly hard core about training and don't want to use precious energy to adjust the machines/ benches
11. have an affinity towards the words/ phrases: good job, one more, and alright
12. always need to be the center of attention
13. don't know how to write your own workout journal or just have bad penmanship
I could go on forever...."I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street." - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Heretic....
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09-24-2005, 12:02 PM #17
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09-24-2005, 12:12 PM #20Originally Posted by deserusan
lol, I'm not disagreeing. In my area though, there is a new gym that's recently opened and they had an add for personal trainers. They are going to start interviewing next week. The guy that runs the place said he was working for a gym in the area before he started running this one. He said he worked 8 hours a day for the gym and then personal trained for 3 hours a day a lot of times. He said there is a real demand for them, and it's all about getting the clients, and that he could see me being able to do it for 6-7 hours a day if that's what I wanted to do. Oh yeah, did I mention he said they get paid $35 an hour?
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09-24-2005, 12:14 PM #21Originally Posted by Gajanga“Methods are many,
Principles are few,
Methods often change,
Principles never do.”
http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/bodybuilding.html
I heard this place, I r o n M ass was a pretty good place , they got (no G&N) pervs.
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09-24-2005, 12:19 PM #23
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Originally Posted by Gajanga
"See, the sad thing about a guy like you is in 50 years you're gonna staht doin some thinkin on your own and you're gonna come up with the fact that there are two certaintees in life. One, don't do that. And Two, you dropped a hundred and fifty grand on a ****in education you coulda got for a dollah fifty in late chahges at the public library ""I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street." - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Heretic....
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09-24-2005, 12:21 PM #24
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Chuckie: Wait, Bill. Hold it. Did you hear that?
[Man moans upstairs]
Chuckie: Morgan! If you're watching pornos in my mom's room again, I'm gonna give you a ****ing beating!
[Morgan runs downstairs]
Morgan: What's up fellas?
Billy: Morgan, why don't you jerk off in your own ****ing house. Man, that's ****ing filthy.
Morgan: I ain't got a VCR in my house.
Chuckie: Aw, c'mon, not on my glove.
Morgan: I didn't use the glove.
Chuckie: That's my Little League glove.
Morgan: What do you want me to do?
Chuckie: I mean, what's wrong with you? You'll hump a baseball glove?
Morgan: I was just using it for clean-up.
Chuckie: Stop jerking off in my mother's room!
Morgan: Ain't there another VCR in the house?
Chuckie: It's just sad bro."I just use my muscles as a conversation piece, like someone walking a cheetah down 42nd Street." - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Heretic....
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09-24-2005, 12:28 PM #27
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09-24-2005, 12:29 PM #28
while I am not coming to the defence of personal trainer I am rushing to the defense of trainers.First thing right off the bat, there are 2 different fields that get intercrossed incorrectly, there's bodybuilding and there's strength training THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. Also everyone in this field has different ideas of whats correct, what is correct is what is backed by science. While I have had disarguments with many people here, point is I know my stuff, I've studied this more then the regular people here. In another year I'll have a masters degree in Performance Enhancement. All that out of the way here's my theory
First off, like most guys people in the gym all say the same things " i don't need a trainer, they don't know anything, there clients don't get results" Yes that is true for personal trainers. People who get there education from these boards and magaizines, it is not however true for performance ehnhancement trainers or trainers. There is a difference
Yes I understand majority of people here want to look better and if bodybuilding is your sole purpose that is great, same goes or o-lifting or powerlifting. But people (read GUYS) look at trainers and say "oh they don't know anything, there not doing 16 sets for biceps" and while it is true. I myself see personal trainers who don't know ****, and are fat or toothpick skinny. I understand where the bad rap comes in. But then you have trainers. I work in a corrective exercise facility what that means is I get people with knee or ankle or any other sort of injur and not only do I have to rehab/prehab that which requires an insane knowledge of both biomechanics and kinesology but I also have to either give them daily strength or get them big/strong/lean/faster. So you mean to tell me I'm on par with an ACE certified trainer. Again don't lump everyone together
Now take that further, there's people that work at my facaility with me, that while they have degrees, they know NOTHING about strength training and they scoff at anything "isolation(there really is no such thing) or bodypart specfic" yes they may know alittle exercise science but just because you can tell me about the Cori cycle doesn't mean you know how to get someone where the yneed to do. matter fact we have one guy who can recite any exercise science text yet his clients have stayed plateued for months
Now another side to it, alot is in who pays you. I work in an upscale area and my clients are either cancer survivors, amatuer athletes, rehab cases or worst of all former CEO's and current wealthy businessmen, these guy want to do what they want. I can honestly say I have NEVER give anyone a rest period, everything is antagionst pairing because these people don't wanna hear about resting between sets and worst of all they don't wanna hear that they shouldn't do leg extensions because "it really make my knee feel stable". Again don't lumb everyone, there are different circumstances
Last point, please don't think you can learn everything on BODYBUILDING.COM because it's just bodybuilding, not strength training, there's a whole other world then bodybuilding which, when done right can make you look better then pure bodybuilding methods. While there are some very knowledge people here, such as defaint1, domink(who should change his name to ZatorsikyScienceandPratice) and others, this is not the mecca, matter of fact majority of the posts are flat out laguhable
All i'm trying to say is, please don't lump everyone together, yes the majority of trainers you see don't know ****, this morning a trainer at my gym that i work out at, told a client, "do cardio everyday" as he proceeded to put her on the pec deck"
My point is, don't think you know more then everything, while the majority of trainer have the same resrarch as you(boards/mags) and while the majority don't know ****. Look at yourself in the mirror before you judgeChicks dig big calves
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09-24-2005, 12:32 PM #29
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