Drinking water while eating a meal...

[Skinny_Newt]

A friend of mine told me that it isn't good to drink while eating, even water... I was wondering if that is true since I usually have a hard time eating and not drinking something at the same time..

Newt

[ericTHEninja]

Does your friend 30 and still living in your mom's basement only to leave for star trek and comic book conventions?

You should be drinking lots of water while eating. Part of the reason people say to drink water when dieting is that water is a very serious ingredient in the glycolitic cycle (i.e. ATP creation, transport, and destruction among a ridiculous amount of other things). In other words, water helps break down your food.

p.s. don't believe your friend when he tells you he has a g/f, but she goes to another school, either

[Zelluz]

Always drink 10-15 minutes before you eat. That way you wash all the leftovers, acids in your stomach before new food enters.

Never drink while you eat, you need your saliva for better, faster digesting and saliva kills gems while you chewing it, so chew it slowly and thoroughly.

Don’t drink after your have eat for at least two hours (four hours if you had meat products like beef, pork, chicken, fish), because you need your acids in your stomach not mixed with other liquids.

If you add any other liquids in your stomach right after you have eat your body have to waste even more energy and time to digest your food and its just go down the road from there. Food might not get digested all the way through and you get only half or less on the nutrition’s.


It’s simple chemistry.


You not going to die if you won’t drink for few hours … people last for over 5-10 days without water and they are fine.

Now you might say, “But what if I want to drink during that time?”

Well, if you really thirsty after you have eat then your diet isn’t right, you probably had food high in sodium or something else.

You do get used to drink before eating and not drinking after and it feels much better.

[CitadelArmyJAG]

Originally Posted by Skinny_Newt

A friend of mine told me that it isn't good to drink while eating, even water... I was wondering if that is true since I usually have a hard time eating and not drinking something at the same time..

Newt

It dilutes your stomach acid and makes it harder for your stomach to digest the food...

[Skinny_Newt]

Thank you guys

[Wellington]

Originally Posted by ericTHEninja

p.s. don't believe your friend when he tells you he has a g/f, but she goes to another school, either

LOL, or about that hot model he scored with on holiday.

[therock003]

Guys seriousl i'm having a very hard time myself not being able to drink anything for at least two hours after the food,i almost feel dehydrated after eating!

[xenithon]

Don’t drink after your have eat for at least two hours (four hours if you had meat products like beef, pork, chicken, fish)

WTF? If I didn't eat for 4 hours after meals with meat (which is like 90% ofmy meals) I wouldn't be drinking.....EVER. You should be eating every 3-4 hours anyway. It's true you should not drink immediately after or during your meals, but give it 20-30 minutes max after that.

[ballboy20]

Originally Posted by CitadelArmyJAG

It dilutes your stomach acid and makes it harder for your stomach to digest the food...

Originally Posted by xenithon

WTF? If I didn't eat for 4 hours after meals with meat (which is like 90% ofmy meals) I wouldn't be drinking.....EVER. You should be eating every 3-4 hours anyway. It's true you should not drink immediately after or during your meals, but give it 20-30 minutes max after that.

Hey. I have never heard of this not drinking water while eating. I usually drink water all through out my meal and it also helps me get a more full sensation so I don't feel still hungry because I eat pretty fast. What kind of problems does this cause? Thanks and sorry for asking just interested.

ballboy20

[xenithon]

No problem - that's what the board is here for

The guys above highlighted the major points about why it is not good to drink while eating. As for the fullness - contrary to what many may think, drinking while eating usually allows you to eat more. Reason is your are flushing down the food quickly and mixing it in the stomach. That means fewer enzymes are being released, so your thinking that you are full gets delayed.

[melon]

Who cares, drink your water. Won't make a difference in the long run. Not drinking for two hours after, whatever. Drink when you want, however much you want.

[vja2000]

There is also a huge difference between drinking warm water and cold water. Water can be difficult for your body to understand when it is close to body temperature. Colder water will absorb much more quickly. Also, and though you may urinate often during intake, water is not generally fully utilized until the day after ingestion.

To answer your question, I am in complete agreement with those here who do not advocate drinking fluids with meals. I never drink with meals, as my father didn't allow it when I was growing up. He died and so I never had the opportunity to ask him why, but to this day I do not drink anything with meals and have experienced very, very few digestive abnormalities. In contrast, my girlfriend cannot eat without drinking fluids and she suffers quite frequently from digestive concerns and views Tums pretty much as candy...

Vince

[saw14]

Originally Posted by vja2000

I do not drink anything with meals and have experienced very, very few digestive abnormalities. In contrast, my girlfriend cannot eat without drinking fluids and she suffers quite frequently from digestive concerns and views Tums pretty much as candy...

Vince

yeah, but whats your diet like compared to hers? if you are eating oats, broccoli, and chicken all the time and she is eating bacon, pizza, and soft served ice cream then maybe its not the water and the difference in food consumption.

[vja2000]

Originally Posted by saw14

yeah, but whats your diet like compared to hers? if you are eating oats, broccoli, and chicken all the time and she is eating bacon, pizza, and soft served ice cream then maybe its not the water and the difference in food consumption.

My girlfriends diet is much different than mine has been for the past 4-5 months. But, understand that I have been "drinkless" during meals all of my life, whereas she has ALWAYS had a drink with her meals. And, over the past 5-6 years that I've been hanging with her, she has eaten a Tums (or more) every single day I've known her. Frankly, I don't know of anyone that doesn't suffer some sort of digestive malfunction or "misfire" who drinks with their meals, whether or not they themselves have even taken note of it or are prepared to acknowledge it. It's just an observation I've made over the years.

Every time I sit and wonder, I think back to when we lived off the land and slept in caves; we got up with the early light, scrounged around all day for nuts, berries, roots, fruits and so on, and then if we were really, REALLY fortunate, we came upon a dead animal with some fresh meat still left on it. Somehow, I don't see a bottle of water hanging from my loin cloth...

Vince

[saw14]

Originally Posted by vja2000

Somehow, I don't see a bottle of water hanging from my loin cloth...

Vince

no, but i do see cavemen hunched over drinking water from a river of sort.

[Dosquito]

"honey, want some water?"

"NO MOM, YOU IDIOT! YOU'RE RUINING MY GAINS!"

[buttaflap]

i sip water all day long, including meals
sometimes wash back a nice bbq chicken drumstick with some diet dr pepper!

[vja2000]

Originally Posted by saw14

no, but i do see cavemen hunched over drinking water from a river of sort.

Right! And I drink water all day long like a fish. I honestly do not know what it is about drinking with meals, but I do know that it somehow upsets the digestive process. If I were to apply logic, I would have to conclude that it washes down something that is required to assist in breaking down and digesting foods both in the mouth and in the stomach.

When I diet, what I eat is much different. I love to bake (another reason I think my T levels might be low) - anyway, I do love to bake and when I'm not dieting I eat the heck out of baked goods and this is the only time I ever drink anything with food; cookies and milk, brownies and milk, chocolate cake and milk, donuts and milk, and so on.

It's kind of a hard thing to figure, because I do eat my cereal in milk, for example. And chicken soup (mostly water), as another example.

One thing is absolutely certain, though; you do not need to drink with food - that's a given...

Vince

[rycbaby]

*sips on his water while eating his oats*

Hmm...this is very interesting...I ALWAYS drink LOTS of water with my meals...No digestive problems for me...And personally, I don't know of anyone who doesn't drink with their meals...Weird..

[hokiehokieVT]

Originally Posted by Dosquito

"honey, want some water?"

"NO MOM, YOU IDIOT! YOU'RE RUINING MY GAINS!"

lmao

[Zelluz]

Maybe some of you will think again before drinking and eating at the same time ... here is more information and if you lifting and not gaining any mass maybe that is your problem ...

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...q&dbid=16#dig4


Ways to Support Healthy Digestion

Healthy digestion requires support for all the different components of digestion:

Chew thoroughly. Chewing is the physical process of breaking the food down into smaller fragments. Thorough chewing mixes food well with saliva, which moistens the food particles and provides a means for enzymes, like amylase and lipase, to get to the pieces of food and begin the process of starch and fat digestion. Chewing also signals the body to begin the digestion process, alerting the stomach to prepare to make stomach acid, and signaling the pancreas to prepare to secrete its contents into the lumen of the small intestinal tract.

When a meal is not well chewed, the food fragments are too big. Since the digestive enzymes can only work on the surface of the food fragments, inadequate chewing results in incomplete digestion. This means not only nutrients being left in the food and unabsorbed, but also extra food for bacteria in the colon. This extra bacterial food results in bacterial overgrowth, gas and symptoms of indigestion.

Eating should always begin with thorough chewing of food to allow for complete digestion to occur.

Ensure adequate amounts of digestive factors. After chewing, the food’s next stop is the stomach, where an adequate amount of stomach acid (hydrochloric acid) is the next necessity. Stomach acid is required for adequate breakdown of proteins. Without adequate stomach acid, not only is protein digestion ineffective, but also digestion of vitamin B12 is seriously affected. Vitamin B12 digestion and absorption requires that it be liberated from protein. In addition, intrinsic factor, the protein that is necessary for vitamin B12 absorption, is low when stomach acid is low.





Happy eating and drinking!

Now think about it, how much have you wasted on eating all that protein and then drink a gallon of water/soda right after?

[ovidiu]

Originally Posted by Zelluz

You not going to die if you won’t drink for few hours … people last for over 5-10 days without water and they are fine.

yes, regular people. not bodybuilders, who have to drink a gallon of water a day. if you eat 6-8 meals a day and don't drink for 2 hours after each meal... lol

[Man2kx]

Originally Posted by Zelluz

Maybe some of you will think again before drinking and eating at the same time ... here is more information and if you lifting and not gaining any mass maybe that is your problem ...

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?t...q&dbid=16#dig4


Ways to Support Healthy Digestion

Healthy digestion requires support for all the different components of digestion:

Chew thoroughly. Chewing is the physical process of breaking the food down into smaller fragments. Thorough chewing mixes food well with saliva, which moistens the food particles and provides a means for enzymes, like amylase and lipase, to get to the pieces of food and begin the process of starch and fat digestion. Chewing also signals the body to begin the digestion process, alerting the stomach to prepare to make stomach acid, and signaling the pancreas to prepare to secrete its contents into the lumen of the small intestinal tract.

When a meal is not well chewed, the food fragments are too big. Since the digestive enzymes can only work on the surface of the food fragments, inadequate chewing results in incomplete digestion. This means not only nutrients being left in the food and unabsorbed, but also extra food for bacteria in the colon. This extra bacterial food results in bacterial overgrowth, gas and symptoms of indigestion.

Eating should always begin with thorough chewing of food to allow for complete digestion to occur.

Ensure adequate amounts of digestive factors. After chewing, the food’s next stop is the stomach, where an adequate amount of stomach acid (hydrochloric acid) is the next necessity. Stomach acid is required for adequate breakdown of proteins. Without adequate stomach acid, not only is protein digestion ineffective, but also digestion of vitamin B12 is seriously affected. Vitamin B12 digestion and absorption requires that it be liberated from protein. In addition, intrinsic factor, the protein that is necessary for vitamin B12 absorption, is low when stomach acid is low.





Happy eating and drinking!


Now think about it, how much have you wasted on eating all that protein and then drink a gallon of water/soda right after?

You have some great points but how sure are you that we aren't digesting the food later on anyways? Sure the digestion process may be slowed (which is great for cutters), but that doesn't mean we just give up digesting it... we'll do it anyways right?

So whats the huge fuss? Just curious?

[Hawkeye]

Here is a Q&A from whfoods.com that touches on the subject of this topic, http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=asknutr&dbid=6.

[vja2000]

One thing about getting older is that one has more time to get to know their body. And, one has more time to develop their logistical skills, as well. Time is relevant in this regard.

Do I know that drinking with a meal screws me up - the answer is yes. When I go out to dinner with my girlfriend or my daughter, both of them request an Iced Tea when the waiter or waitress comes around. And, before their meal ever arrives, they have drunk most of the liquid. With their meal comes a refill. My girlfriend consequently winds up not being able to eat as much, as does my daughter, and my girlfriend winds up with a sour stomach, while my daughter winds up with a heartburn - every time.

I'm not a genius, but this has always been quite obvious to me; they do it and I see the results. My girlfriend is hooked on Tums, my daughter on Pepcid. I've tried to explain to both of them that they cannot drink like that when they eat and they just don't get it. In fact, both of them tell me they HAVE to drink with their meals.

Folks, if you dilute anything too much it is always going to be less effective; anti freeze, windshield washer fluid, shampoo, concrete, paint, stomach acid - it's all the same.

The linked article points out that a small amount of fluid with a meal is okay; maybe it is. Maybe for some of us the acid levels in our stomach is simply too high when we eat and truly does need to be diluted some? This is where taking the time to get to know or understand our own body is important.

As far as I know, as soon as hunger strikes a persons mind, the fluids needed for breaking down food begin to form in the body. Logic tells me that if we don't eat at that time, we risk damage to our stomach and/or damage to our teeth. And, logic further dictates to me that after I eat, I should drink a small amount of liquid to wash residual acids from my mouth to protect my teeth from damage.

Finally, there are certain givens here; you aren't going to take in as much food when space is consumed by liquid. Second, if too much liquid is consumed after a full meal, the stomach lining is going to be stretched. Third, if the fluids needed for breaking down food partials are too diluted, nutrients are going to be wasted. And, I agree with chewing well; a teaspoon of granulated bouillon or sugar is far easier to dissolve than a small brick of either...

Vince

[Stand Ablaze]

I remember reading drinking water with food can help with trapped wind? Don't quote me on it though it was probably bollocks to begin with.

Drinking water with food won't hurt you, it won't hurt you if you don't either.

[vja2000]

Originally Posted by Stand Ablaze

Drinking water with food won't hurt you...

This is the point, precisely; this is exactly what my girlfriend and my daughter both tell me. But, the facts and logic simply do not support this. Maybe, in the true sense of the word, drinking with a meal won't "hurt" you; I mean, it probably won't bring forth a 911 call, but based on what we know, it can't be all that great for you, either. The question was never whether or not drinking with a meal will hurt you, but whether or not doing so was "good" for you...

Vince

[A-man]

water passes through the system in about 20 minutes.
Food takes 8-10 hours.

I'm sure that all the water your consuming with your meal will be long gone in no time and the food you ate will be adequately digested in the 7 hours and 40 minutes longer it takes to breakdown.

I'm sure somewhere along the line our bodies have adapted to being able to consume food and drink at the same time.

[ll ReNeGaDe ll]

i always have a glass of milk with my meals... that bad too?

[Cloud Strife]

Originally Posted by Zelluz

people last for over 5-10 days without water and they are fine.

WTF?! i want to meet these people. you wouldn't last 3 days without water