pt's Cnidium Monnier review

**jkeithc82** · 09-29-2005, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

Having said that (and assuming that these effects continue)... it's hard to beat Cnidium convenience-wise... it packs a punch in milligram doses and glycerine tastes pretty bad / painfully sweet.

I am getting very interested in this. May pick some up after the cut.

**pu12en12g** · 09-29-2005, 06:04 PM

Day 8: Chest, lats, delts, arms, traps

Benched 315 PR

Another great workout... during this review I've had some of my BEST back-to-back workouts ever... and yes.. I dropped the White Blood today... so things should get interesting here on out... my client added 15lb to his max bench and I added 10... maybe I was extra aggressive (pissed off about dropping the WB).

**Viperspit** · 09-29-2005, 06:09 PM

congrats on the PR Pure!

I had a PR on Hack Squats tonight. My GMS came in tonight so I'll get a plan together for experimentation with it.
I'll be interested to see how you dropping the WB works out as well.

**jkeithc82** · 09-29-2005, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

Benched 315 PR

Awesome man.

**dtrain13** · 09-29-2005, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

Day 8: Chest, lats, delts, arms, traps

Benched 315 PR

Another great workout... during this review I've had some of my BEST back-to-back workouts ever... and yes.. I dropped the White Blood today... so things should get interesting here on out... my client added 15lb to his max bench and I added 10... maybe I was extra aggressive (pissed off about dropping the WB).

Congrats man!!!!

**pu12en12g** · 10-02-2005, 07:30 AM

Day 9:Off

Shocked

Outstanding, sustained cell volumization and vascularity, even after dropping the white blood. Libido is still up, but I also had a headache....

**pu12en12g** · 10-04-2005, 05:50 PM

Day 11: Legs

Had some strange nausea when I hit the gym... it went away very quick.. another one of the best leg days since X-Factor... muscle fullness during the day was down, but was great during workout...

So the question is obviously... what the **** is keeping me at this 250lb plateau ? ? ? At least 3 possibilities:

a) Calorie intake.. especially evening
b) Healthy fat intake
c) Stress
d) All of the above

**CreatineMan** · 10-04-2005, 06:04 PM

great log so far, keep it up

**JRODR** · 10-10-2005, 01:07 PM

:Subscribed:

Pu12, could you send me an email with the link to this. I am trying to decide between this and Glycerol for my next stack. What do you recommend at this point? I currently plan on buying:

Now Adam Multi
HP Whey Protein
HP CEE
On Fish Oil

Great job on your logs. Good luck getting over 250. It'd be cool to double your original weight.

**dtrain13** · 10-10-2005, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

Day 11: Legs

Had some strange nausea when I hit the gym... it went away very quick.. another one of the best leg days since X-Factor... muscle fullness during the day was down, but was great during workout...

So the question is obviously... what the **** is keeping me at this 250lb plateau ? ? ? At least 3 possibilities:

a) Calorie intake.. especially evening
b) Healthy fat intake
c) Stress
d) All of the above

e) Bodybuilding.com!!!!!

**jkeithc82** · 10-10-2005, 02:24 PM

f) Answering 10,000 emails a day about CL products

**G.W. Hayduke** · 10-10-2005, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by CHUCK DIESEL

When I take CM it doesn�t give me better boners they just hurt. It�s hard to explain.

C'mon Chuck, the ones that hurt ARE better.

**pu12en12g** · 10-11-2005, 12:50 PM

Day 12-18:

Muscle fullness is down, but libido and spontaneous erections are still improving.

**pu12en12g** · 10-12-2005, 05:48 PM

Day 19: (I think)

Chest, delts, traps

Bodyweight holding steady... but vascularity improving.. this normally wouldn't be worth mentioning, but cnidium is so cheap.

**PROVERBS** · 10-12-2005, 05:50 PM

PT .. just an fyi .. Matt will be getting in some cnidium in very soon.

**pu12en12g** · 10-12-2005, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by PROVERBS413

PT .. just an fyi .. Matt will be getting in some cnidium in very soon.

Any updates on the norvaline ? I need to make another order soon (getting some GM for a client as well)

**PROVERBS** · 10-12-2005, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

Any updates on the norvaline ? I need to make another order soon (getting some GM for a client as well)

I reminded him about the norvaline since I knew you were interested .. but I'm not sure if he has some on the way or not .. check out his board over at IM for a list of what's on the way.

**dtrain13** · 10-12-2005, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by PROVERBS413

PT .. just an fyi .. Matt will be getting in some cnidium in very soon.

Damn I just ordered a bunch of **** today.....GRRRRRRRRRR

**dtrain13** · 10-12-2005, 06:12 PM

Hey PT matpal will also be stocking MCC!!!!!!

**italionstallion** · 10-12-2005, 06:49 PM

I'm just clarifying this:

1) you have never used ph's/aas
2) in one year you went from 205 up to 245

**pu12en12g** · 10-12-2005, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by italionstallion

I'm just clarifying this:

1) you have never used ph's/aas
2) in one year you went from 205 up to 245

That sounds about right... here is a timeline (205 was after cutting down from 225... HUGE MISTAKE):

130 @ age 19

*** Joined Military ***

175 @ age 24

*** Started actually lifting / eating ***

190 @ age 25

*** Up'd protein intake / raw oats / Big 3 ***

225 @ age 26

*** Bulk / no pics ***

205 @ age 26

*** Cutting cycle... HUGE MISTAKE ! ***

243 @ age 27

http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/130-243.jpg

**italionstallion** · 10-12-2005, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/130-243.jpg

Nice, i like the 130 lb curling pics

**pu12en12g** · 10-12-2005, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by italionstallion

Nice, i like the 130 lb curling pics

LOL...that one cracks me up EVERY TIME ! ! ! I have another photo that was taken right before bootcamp... holy ****.. I looked like I was starving.

**POWrCLEANr** · 10-12-2005, 07:00 PM

Excellent log PU12...very interesting.

**pu12en12g** · 10-15-2005, 03:51 AM

Day 20-21:

Feeling great and looking more vascular, but muscle fullness is down. I feel like I've given this experiment enough time at this point, and it's time to move on towards my goal of 260lbs @ 12-14%. My diet could have been better during this review, and stress is still the highest it's been in a LONG time.

Final thoughts:

Ever since I first tried Yohimbe, I've known that many herbs are underestimated and some are VERY, VERY potent. Cnidium as a standalone does appear to have a noticable effect @ mg dosages, and it stacks nicely with a arginine / ornithine combo. I did have a few headaches which is somewhat unusual for me and I experienced some dizziness and some nausea.

The real interesting thing here (broken record) is how potent Cnidium seems to be, making it very convenient for preworkout (1 tiny pill to swallow). I also noticed that cnidium seems to "prolong" any and all pumps / muscle spasms.

I hesitated to increase the dosage due mainly to the dizziness, and I feel that it's time to completely cycle off of anything Nitric Oxide related:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=573903

**TommyQ29** · 11-09-2005, 03:51 PM

What's your opinion on Cnidium being a PDE-5 inhibitor?

**sean4104** · 11-09-2005, 04:05 PM

PU...why do you always refer to the cut as a mistake. and also...could you post some pics of you pre and post workout...so we can get an idea of the pump and changes in vascularity?

**Jsorb8997** · 11-09-2005, 04:54 PM

Did you buy your CM from an online source, get it free, or what? (not asking for exact source)

**dtrain13** · 11-09-2005, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Jsorb8997

Did you buy your CM from an online source, get it free, or what? (not asking for exact source)

He got it from BAC. Online.

**Jsorb8997** · 11-09-2005, 04:58 PM

I got money to burn and I'm gonna pick some up for sure.

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