T Bar Rows

[fairbjosh]

Do you guys prefer T-Bar Row or the Barbell Row, I am running a Upper/Lower split and don't know which one to use?

[davisj3537]

Depends on

1. Your definition of a Tbar row (need picture)
2. Your definition of a barbell row (torso angled up or parallel to floor)
3. What the rest of your program looks like.

[chazzy1864]

Both are good. Both could be superfluous depending on entire program and other individual factors.

Hope this helps.

[fairbjosh]

Depends on

1. Your definition of a Tbar row (need picture)
2. Your definition of a barbell row (torso angled up or parallel to floor)
3. What the rest of your program looks like.

Both are good. Both could be superfluous depending on entire program and other individual factors.

Hope this helps.

Doing an Lower/Upper Split:

Monday & Thursday Lower:
Squat 4 x 6-8
RDL 4 x 6-8
Leg Ext 3 x 8-12
Leg Curl 3 x 8-12
Sitting Calf Raises 4 x 6-8
Standing Calf Raises 3 x 12-15
Ab Work

Tuesday & Friday Upper:
Bench 4 x 6-8
T-Bar Row 4 x 6-8
Incline Flys 3 x 8-12
Straight Arm Pulldown 3 x 8-12
OH Press 3 x 8-12
Incline Rear Delt Raise R 3 x 8-12
Biceps 3 x 10-12
Triceps 3 x 10-12

[Garage Rat]

I like T-bar rows because i have more control over the bar.
The barbell row is good also if you don't turn it into a jerk up row.
IMO most people go to heavy to feel mostly just the back.
Sometimes you want to over load and get the whole body involved and use them as more of a heavy compound movement.But trying to target mostly back you have to be in control of the weight and mostly pull with the back thinking pulling with the upper arms and lower arms as hooks.
With both movements make sure your hinging at the hips and loading hams and glutes and not bending over straight with the low back.
I know i went beyond the scope of the question but i hope you may something from it.

[fairbjosh]

I like T-bar rows because i have more control over the bar.
The barbell row is good also if you don't turn it into a jerk up row.
IMO most people go to heavy to feel mostly just the back.
Sometimes you want to over load and get the whole body involved and use them as more of a heavy compound movement.But trying to target mostly back you have to be in control of the weight and mostly pull with the back thinking pulling with the upper arms and lower arms as hooks.
With both movements make sure your hinging at the hips and loading hams and glutes and not bending over straight with the low back.
I know i went beyond the scope of the question but i hope you may something from it.

Awesome, thanks for the information.... Is the version they have on bodybuilding website correct that's the one I follow, I also heard you should put 25's instead of 45's so you get a better range of motion?

[RedSox1990]

t bar rows give me a better pump, but why not just switch them every other back day?

[TJP33]

all for Tbar- can apply more weight, better balance/weight distribution.. The more I think abt this the more likely I am to recommend this lift to beginners over a bbell row or even a dbell row, less things that can go wrong.

Davis- pulling from the floor with triangle grip, not the assisted tbar with the chest pad w t-grip

[davisj3537]

Davis- pulling from the floor with triangle grip, not the assisted tbar with the chest pad w t-grip

From my perspective they are virtually the same exercise with slightly different emphasis then.

[danfleysher]

On the T-Bar row, do you guys suggest the close grip from the triangle grip or medium grip from one of the other grips.

[chicagojosh]

I like T-Bar rows WAY more than traditional bent over rows

[chazzy1864]

all for Tbar- can apply more weight, better balance/weight distribution.. The more I think abt this the more likely I am to recommend this lift to beginners over a bbell row or even a dbell row, less things that can go wrong.

Davis- pulling from the floor with triangle grip, not the assisted tbar with the chest pad w t-grip

From my perspective they are virtually the same exercise with slightly different emphasis then.

Yeah, I too, regard them as very similar exercises and personal preference should dictate their usage.

I also like T-bars better. I feel I can lean back and focus more on the pull and it is easy to either stay strict and go for contraction or use body english to get some extra weight / reps. That bieng said, again, I can use both and get very similar contractions and feels.

On the T-Bar row, do you guys suggest the close grip from the triangle grip or medium grip from one of the other grips.

I'd use a wider (moderate width) tapered grip more often, but on occasion would use the narrow V-bar grip.

[davisj3537]

FWIW I'd change your upper days around so that you can have more pulling variety. Like maybe BOR on Upper A and actual "t-bar" rows on Upper B. That could also lend you the platform to alternate your straight arm pulldowns with an actual scapular downward rotation movement like lat pulldowns, chin ups, pull ups. TBH one of those needs to be a staple of your routine anyway.

[livewire57]

I'd mix it up, one series of T-bar to start, then finish with dumbbell rows.

[pogioli4]

I like T-bar rows because i have more control over the bar.
The barbell row is good also if you don't turn it into a jerk up row.
IMO most people go to heavy to feel mostly just the back.
Sometimes you want to over load and get the whole body involved and use them as more of a heavy compound movement.But trying to target mostly back you have to be in control of the weight and mostly pull with the back thinking pulling with the upper arms and lower arms as hooks.
With both movements make sure your hinging at the hips and loading hams and glutes and not bending over straight with the low back.
I know i went beyond the scope of the question but i hope you may something from it.

100% this.
tip OP: do pendlays (sometimes also referred to as barbell rows depending on your definition of a barbell row) if you're not trying to overload. It'll help ensure you isolate your back more by preventing that urge to use momentum

Edit: also OP, how new are you to the lifting scene and what are your goals? just curious as to why no DB bench/rows.