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    Tired of being overweight...need some advice on thermogenics.

    Hey everyone, I'm trying to lose weight, which isn't the hard part for me. I lost close to 50 pounds earlier this year, but due to things in my life, keeping myself in shape had to be moved to the back burner. Now that I'm getting back on my feet and back on track, my priorities are shifting and the focus on getting myself back into shape is high on that list. So, I ask you guys, what is a plausible thermogenic that I can take that will help aid me in what I'm trying to accomplish? I'm looking for something that would help my focus, appetite suppression, and increased weight loss. I can't take ephedrine, or anything like that because of the drug test at my job is pretty sensitive.
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    ephedrine showing up in a drug test?
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    Gaspari Cytolean, a strict diet (research the Nutrition forum), and fasted cardio (cardio before any food intake, first thing in the morning).
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    Originally Posted by Incinerated View Post
    ephedrine showing up in a drug test?
    It'll show up sometimes as an amphetamine, and I can't risk that. I need my job to keep going right now.

    As far as Cytolean, how does that compare to products such as Man Scorch or SAN! Tight? I'd stack with either SesaGLOW or Vaporize.
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    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bcl/ampm.html

    Check out the Black China Lab's AM/PM system. We have a few logs running right now.

    Here's the log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5682371

    A few notable quotes from the log so you don't have to dig through the whole thing.

    Originally Posted by Feny
    I felt the effects of just 1xAM about 25 min after taking it. Had an energy burst, and started feeling pretty hot just sitting around in my house. I had an amazing workout as well. I felt like I was hot and sweating more than normal, which was good. Today was only shoulders, but I had tons of energy, and was rocking out to my ipod the whole workout. Also, as far as hunger goes, I really never was that hungry today. Kinda had to force myself to eat.
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    Originally Posted by BCLabs
    How PM helping with hunger at night?
    Actually, I haven't really been hungry at all... Its funny, i pretty much forget to eat after that serving.. which is really good, because i always have a hard time turning away carbs before bedtime... PM is doing its job
    Originally Posted by feny
    Originally Posted by BCLabs
    How PM working for night hunger
    It really is great... And by great, i mean...

    1) hunger really isn't an issue at night anymore
    2) I almost always forget to eat, which can be a problem, so i have to make myself get up to eat something (often PB)
    3) I haven't had the usual problem of craving carbs at night that i usually get when cutting...
    He's down four pounds in six days so far.
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    What's the dosing on the AM? Just 1-2, once a day?
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    AM take one to two caps with breakfast and lunch.

    Here's the AM/PM writeup and FAQ: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...3#post96017813
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    Are there any other logs?
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    Originally Posted by 95zj View Post
    Are there any other logs?
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ack+china+labs
    ^^ANother AM/PM log.

    You could also try our EPH (that is what I would do) I don't think ephedrine shows up in drug tests.

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    When I was working a lot and trying to keep in shape, I found that it was damn hard. You'll have to pack your own lunch, or find a restaurant who has a meal that is ideal to your needs (this is almost impossible). Keep logs of what you eat, the protein, carb and calorie contents and how often you eat. The key to true successful weight loss is consistency, so you'll have to monitor everything.

    When I weighed 206, I aimed for no more than 2200ish calories a day, 200g of protein and less than 100 carbs a day. Two and a half months later I weighed 192 but it had definitely plateau'd (this is all without cardio as well). If you want fast results, do cardio, eat less food overall but eat more dense food. No fat burner will allow you to lose weight if you aren't eating correctly. Don't mistake a decrease in appetite as a way to not eat at all meaning don't ditch meals or wait too long to eat.
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