Helios Homebrew

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Has anyone tried making a homebrew of Helios?

It seems a very hard item to source at all so I thought I might check out if anyone has successfully homebrewed it

The raw Yohimbine HCl is not hard to come by and Clen is obtainable, maybe not so much as a raw powder though more so with gakk/fillers in it...

Anyone?

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Ritodrine HCl doesn't appear to be controlled as such and can be bought in lab grade powder... Am wondering now if maybe Ritodrine HCl & Yohimbine HCl could be used for a homebrew?

Thoughts?

BUMP even lol

[Mycophage]

i'm real interested in homebrewing helios, too. thus far, i havn't been able to find a clen powder source, and the pills are a small fortune, then you'd have to separate them from the binders, too. yohimbine is super easy to find, tho. i was THINKING about trying to make a cream/spray out of tablets and y powder, then use DMSO to get it through the skin.

[600538411]

Originally Posted by Mycophage

i'm real interested in homebrewing helios, too. thus far, i havn't been able to find a clen powder source, and the pills are a small fortune, then you'd have to separate them from the binders, too. yohimbine is super easy to find, tho. i was THINKING about trying to make a cream/spray out of tablets and y powder, then use DMSO to get it through the skin.

With binders I couldn't see it workign well at all and also I am not sure that getting those binders across transdermally would be a great thing.... You could probably get the clen out of the pills much like speed cooks get the binders out of pseudoephedrine pills.... Would just have to find out what solvent clenbuterol HCl is soluble in and work from there....

But yeah I too was thinking along these lines... Found something else which can be bought as a lab grade powder which may be an alternative to clenbuterol...

Ritodrine HCl is another beta2 agonist which could maybe be used in place of clenbuterol and can be bought in lab grade powder... Maybe Ritodrine HCl/Yohimbine HCl in a DMSO or propylene glycol gel etc....

I can't find Ritodrine HCl being a controlled/presciption drug in my country either.... Hmmmm... Food for thought anyway....

[Krom69]

I've been wondering the something for some time. I'd rather just brew up some injectable Yohimbe HCL. The powder is much more affordable than the injectable version (which is also hard to get). Helios is clen and yohimbe hcl but I prefer to take clen orally since I've also heard many complaints about sides. If anyone knows how to make a safe injectable version of yohimbe hcl then bump this thread.

[Mycophage]

Originally Posted by Krom69

I've been wondering the something for some time. I'd rather just brew up some injectable Yohimbe HCL. The powder is much more affordable than the injectable version (which is also hard to get). Helios is clen and yohimbe hcl but I prefer to take clen orally since I've also heard many complaints about sides. If anyone knows how to make a safe injectable version of yohimbe hcl then bump this thread.

if anything, the injected form should have less sides, as not all of it will be distributed systemically... the whole point of helios is to localize the drugs and their effects to problem areas. the injection is SubQ, not IV.

[Vadim Beliaev]

Dont ever homebrew clenbuterol. Effective doses are so low (~ 100 mcg) and margin of error is very high. (Can you find scales that are accurate to tens of micrograms?) You can kill yourself if you screw up with the dosing.

[Mycophage]

we're not talking making pills, we're talking liquid injectables. seems easy... you get 10 mg clen powder = 250x50mcg doses... put it in 500ml solvent, add 2700mg yohimbine...you've got a half liter of Helios. it's not impossible to afford a mg scale, they're like $60 on ebay, or $130 on some chemistry site.

Helios = 40mcg clen, 5.4mg yohimbine
yohimbine's water solubility: 10mg/ml
Clenbuterol's water solubility: can anyone find this?

[dsw222]

very interested in this..... buuuump

[The Arabic]

Originally Posted by dsw222

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