what do you think is more impressive powerlifting squats or olympic squats

[skinnycalves]

http://megavideo.com/?v=UTD0S38C (youtube removed the video)

i find this video to be so much more impressive than mike millers 1200 pound squat, just look how deep he goes and how perfect his form is, that is feet arent 6 feet apart from each other, not to mention its 641 pounds

but at the same time im confused, his knees go way past his toes, and he clearly bounces to some extent, how come i was always told it was bad? seems it works for francis tournefier

[Big_fuzzy]

For ****s sake, they are diffeent sports, different methods styles and technique, and both podce big strong ****ing people.

Can we let this stupid argument die? They are both incredible in their own rights, taking 700 pounds for a deep squat is insane, so is putting 1200 pounds on your back, and I dont care how many plys there are.

In the end both sports strive to do the samething, add more weight to the bar.

THE END.

Knee travel is fine, bounce is fine, PROVIDED you are doing alot of regular deep tissue massage, this is why Oly lifters get away with it. Knee travel is completely natural, just look at how a baby squats, plenty of travel there.

[skinnycalves]

i didnt even know we had this argument (i wasnt intending it to be an argument) before but whatever

so do olympic lifters all go to the massage parlor on a daily basis, or do they do it themselves with special tools you can buy, (i know this is a n00b question) but how often do they do deep tissue massages? (i would assume your parents would nto be too happy paying for deep tissue massages all the time since your squat form is clearly more olympic style)

[John Prophet]

Oly..for one reason. They basically have ONE federation...one standard.

I love powerlifting too, but im sorry, right now its a joke due to the LACK of any standards in judging. There r feds righ tnow where the squats dont freaking APPROACH parallel...yet they all scream and backslap like they did something.

[skinnycalves]

Oly..for one reason. They basically have ONE federation...one standard.

I love powerlifting too, but im sorry, right now its a joke due to the LACK of any standards in judging. There r feds righ tnow where the squats dont freaking APPROACH parallel...yet they all scream and backslap like they did something.

hahahahahaha, i love powerlifting too but im with you here

[GoJu]

oly, just my opinion, as far as powerlifting goes I like IPF squatters

[smitsky]

I really admire Olympic Squats, and the lifters who can do them. I can't do these.

[ottorotvic]

Strong people impress me. I find the relative feats of strength in both sports equally impressive. Oly squats are deeper. Powerlifting squats are heavier. I like watching freaks do both, as long as they are doing a lot of weight relative to that style of lifting.

[dirtpool]

I find a 1200 lb equipped squat more impressive than a 700lb olympic squat...

both insane, but there are probably more people who can do the 700lb olympic squat, and if you've ever done walkouts I can't even imagine what 1200lbs is like

[ehlpitel]

Raw O-lifting is always more impressive, though I appreciate geared PLing.

[sillz100]

powerlifting squats main purpose is to move as much weight as possible. Minimizing the distance the weight travels. Getting your gear to lift as much of the weight as possible. Oly lifters doing oly squats are doing them to help their real lifts and do not care about getting bigger numbers.

[GoJu]

powerlifting squats main purpose is to move as much weight as possible. Minimizing the distance the weight travels. Getting your gear to lift as much of the weight as possible. Oly lifters doing oly squats are doing them to help their real lifts and do not care about getting bigger numbers.

regardless there are some amazing oly squatters out there, for instance:

Pyross Dimas was credited with doing a 605 front squat and a 705 back squat at 187bw
Alexander Kurlovich was credited with doing an 881 back squat at 253bw
Leonid Taranenko as a SHW was credited with an 836 back squat with a 2second pause and could probably do at least as much as Kurlovich in the regular style

there are many more examples, to say they don't care about getting bigger numbers in the assistance lifts (to the point that it helps the snatch c&j of course) is rediculous

[Domkratos]

what do you think is more impressive powerlifting squats or olympic squats

They a r e different. For a powerlifter the PL squats are #1 in his routine while for an Olympic lifter the Oly-style squats are just an auxiliary movement.
And, as the great Yuri Vlasov once put it, to lift the barbell above one's head is to show the Strength Extreme.

[Vadim Beliaev]

I find a 1200 lb equipped squat more impressive than a 700lb olympic squat...

both insane, but there are probably more people who can do the 700lb olympic squat, and if you've ever done walkouts I can't even imagine what 1200lbs is like

no one would walkout a 1200 lb squat... Those kind of numbers are monolift only. Still impressive as **** to watch...

[Lager1]

I dunno, it's pretty impressive watching a 1000-1100 lb squat. But it seems as you get higher they get more lenient with the whole "parallel" thing. Lots of times they are way above parallel.

I thing olympic lifts are more impressive than powerlifting lifts, their respective squats aren't more or less impressive than one another IMO.

[Newbtime]

I get zero satisfaction out of watching a mile wide stance squat 5 inches high with multiple plys..

but I would go with IPF/raw powerlifting squats over olympic

[John Prophet]

I love when Louie Simmons says an Oly lifter wouldnt have the core strength to squat 900 etc....HAH...I guess it doesnt take much core strength to jerk 450-500 lbs and hold it overhead? Pretty sad when "top" powerlifters r often too injured to raise their arm above delt level

[Bodysteele]

I get zero satisfaction out of watching a mile wide stance squat 5 inches high with multiple plys..

but I would go with IPF/raw powerlifting squats over olympic

Hypocrite lol.....

The Mike Miller 1200 pound squat is a joke....

Kirk Kawolski's 1002 lb one is insanely impressive.

So it really depends on the PLing lift itself.

Overally, at this point OLY squatting is more impressive due to the ROM it displays.

[Dark_MadMax]

Oly lifters compete in squat?!? -Seriously squat for oly lifters is an accessory exercise. For chirst sake it is not even back squat they do in clean and jerk.

Oly lifters are all incredibly strong guys and have very strong and explosive power in their legs, but they do not chase after the weight for squats. The jerk weight is the limiting factor for them , not squat. Vlasov said that beyond certain mark relative to your jerk weight there no point in increasing squats.


I frankly admire oly lifts more than powerlifting ones because they take a lot more technique , flexibility and power, but comparing squats is just pointless.

[John Prophet]

Vlasov said that beyond certain mark relative to your jerk weight there no point in increasing squats.

yep. Alexeev never squatted that heavily and he pointed out that lighter lifters often squatted WAY more yet cleaned and jerked way less.

The Russians, in the USSR years at least, were mad with documenting and calculating EVERYTHING so they had target numbers for squats etc and if the lifter was there already they didnt strive to squat more just to squat more.

It was pointed out by them for instance that Shane Hamman had a huge back squat but didnt have a huge C&J to match it.

[jaketheburnout]

a powerlifting squat is basically 1/2 of an olympic squat. neither is more impressive then another because an oly lifter can put up more weight if he only goes halfway down and a powerlifter will squat as much or less weight as an oly lifter if he went all the way down.

its both impressive in different ways, any lifter squatting several hundreds of pounds is impressive.

[Newbtime]

I love when Louie Simmons says an Oly lifter wouldnt have the core strength to squat 900 etc....HAH...I guess it doesnt take much core strength to jerk 450-500 lbs and hold it overhead? Pretty sad when "top" powerlifters r often too injured to raise their arm above delt level

squatting 600 lbs o style takes way way way way wayyyyyyy more core strength then a 900 lb upright, 5 mile high, 5 mile wide stance multiply squat

[Newbtime]

a powerlifting squat is basically 1/2 of an olympic squat.

not really, if you are using IPF squats as the "powerlifting squat", my squat how I always squat is probably only 4 inches higher then my completely ass to grass squat... and there isn't much of a strength difference.. (probably 35 ish lbs or less)

[Shaun1990]

I like to see an unequipped squat from a non-roid user that is below parallel. I couldn't care whether this was a PLer, BBer or Olylifter ... it's just that currently I see a lot more oly lifters doing the type of squats I find impressive than PLers.

[DuracellBunny]

I like to see an unequipped squat from a non-roid user that is below parallel. I couldn't care whether this was a PLer, BBer or Olylifter ... it's just that currently I see a lot more oly lifters doing the type of squats I find impressive than PLers.

How the hell do you know by looking at somebody whether they are using steroids or not? You don't. Oly lifting has it's fair share of users, the same as PL or any sport where they give an advantage.

[John Prophet]

I like to see an unequipped squat from a non-roid user that is below parallel. I couldn't care whether this was a PLer, BBer or Olylifter ... it's just that currently I see a lot more oly lifters doing the type of squats I find impressive than PLers.

unequipped squat from a non roid user that is below parallel? that easy. Here is one of mine from last year.

http://media.putfile.com/Randy-3rd-a...ar-25-06-USAPL

not that strong, but deep enough for u?

[John Prophet]

yeah, Oly lifting is mega roided, same as PL. Hell, they reset all the records and started over with supposedly better drug testing....so far the (lesser drug tested) clean and jerk record from 20 years ago still stands, lol

[UtahRocks]

How can crap like synchronized gymnastics or beach volleyball be olympic sports and PL cant? When PL will become an olympic discipline it will attract better talent like weightlifting is today.

[Rawngus]

powerlifting squat utilizes more muscles to get the wheight up and, imo an oly squater will never squat 900

[Arlecchino]

powerlifting squat utilizes more muscles to get the wheight up and, imo an oly squater will never squat 900

I am fairly certain the respective styles of squatting use the same number of muscles.

I seem to recall in MILO Kurlovich talking about squatting 881, which means had he focused, he could probably have squatted 900.

Any idea what sport Paul Anderson competed in?