Best Fat Burner Poll

**bornkilla** · 08-29-2005, 06:14 PM

I tried to add the ones that are mentioned the most
would've added green tea and yohimbe but I could only post 10 for polling.

thx

**_STL_15_** · 08-29-2005, 06:17 PM

SAN Tight is my favorite out of those.

**sonick** · 08-29-2005, 06:33 PM

I really think Redline should be up there.
Some people still do the older version of Stacker 2.
I never tried it, but heard rave reviews and scary warnings of Clenbutrx. The stuff isn't sold anymore.

**pu12en12g** · 08-29-2005, 06:38 PM

No contest.

Pure EC stack is the obvious choice.

**BiggJohn** · 08-29-2005, 06:43 PM

Clenbuterol IMO.

**Sixpack** · 08-29-2005, 07:43 PM

Word and this thread is pointless as there have been over a million threads on this

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

No contest.

Pure EC stack is the obvious choice.

**creed428** · 08-29-2005, 07:55 PM

best illegal fat burners
1. DNP
2. Clen + T3
best legal fat burner
EC

**Madevilz** · 08-29-2005, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by creed428

EC

Almost legal

**Flagg3** · 08-29-2005, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Madevilz

Almost legal

Very legal. Ephedrine was never banned at all, and even the Ephedra ban has been lifted.

EC is the clear winner out of those choices. Green Tea is a good addition, as is Sesathin.

Flagg

**daveburton** · 08-29-2005, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by bornkilla

I tried to add the ones that are mentioned the most
would've added green tea and yohimbe but I could only post 10 for polling.

thx

SAN's Tight

**bornkilla** · 08-29-2005, 09:06 PM

by the way if you do a search for poll on this very subject those polls either don't contain the new better products or contain products that are not sold any longer or contain about only 4 options. I did my search before posting.

**Par Deus** · 08-30-2005, 03:48 AM

EC and SesaThin

**svelt4** · 08-30-2005, 04:28 AM

I vote sesathin and green tea as the best since these do not have to be cycled and are not only fat burning but good for you too---none of the others are long term---just a quick fix with some negs such as CNS overstimulation and crashes.

**pu12en12g** · 08-30-2005, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by Madevilz

Almost legal

100% Legal, Cheap, and Effective

**masta_mo** · 08-30-2005, 05:43 AM

in my experience i think thermobol should be there! jus put it there and see who votes for it! worth a try

**Twin Peak** · 08-30-2005, 05:53 AM

Personally, E/C works as a nice appetite suppresant, but does not aid fatloss.

Also, anyone have info on the alleged fact that the ban has been lifted. I have not seen anything concrete. I know there was a ruling by a federal judge, but I have seen nothing more.

**Yorkshirelad** · 08-30-2005, 05:54 AM

EC stack. Without any shadows of doubts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Hosscolt** · 08-30-2005, 11:37 AM

Where can you get Pure EC stack

**pu12en12g** · 08-30-2005, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Hosscolt

Where can you get Pure EC stack

www . the internet . com

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=555239

**MISTERDUDE** · 08-30-2005, 11:42 AM

Sesathin/sesamin products.

EC is cool and all I just don't like the jitteriness from it. I don't particularly hate it either since I know it comes with the territory, but its been enough to diswade me from ever using it frequently or for a long period.

**pu12en12g** · 08-30-2005, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by MISTERDUDE

EC is cool and all I just don't like the jitteriness from it.

Were you using Herbal Ephedra ?

**Par Deus** · 08-31-2005, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

Personally, E/C works as a nice appetite suppresant, but does not aid fatloss.

Also, anyone have info on the alleged fact that the ban has been lifted. I have not seen anything concrete. I know there was a ruling by a federal judge, but I have seen nothing more.

I've not heard anything more, either.

It has not shown up in the products list from Chinese manufacturers and no one of note has brought such a product out. So, I think there probably has not been anything since that.

Or maybe the insurance costs are prohibitive.

**pu12en12g** · 08-31-2005, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

Personally, E/C works as a nice appetite suppresant, but does not aid fatloss.

I have to admit... I'm absolutely SHOCKED at how you phrased that.

**Robboe** · 08-31-2005, 07:45 AM

Ephedrine/EC has the same effect on me - i notice excellent appetite supression to a certain degree, and it's a great pre-workout stimulant, but i notice zero difference in fat loss with or without it.

**pu12en12g** · 08-31-2005, 07:48 AM

I just don't see how someone would be a Ephedrine non-responder, but I guess anything is possible:

Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent (clenbuterol raises metabolic levels about 10 percent)

**Robboe** · 08-31-2005, 07:49 AM

It's not that i'm a non-responder - i get the appetite suppression and jittery stimulation. I just notice no acceleration or increase in fat loss with it.

I guess maybe my adrenergic system just isn't really all that responsive to it. Bear in mind clenbuterol does absolutely nadda for me - even 7 tabs/day.

**Stuntdawg** · 08-31-2005, 07:51 AM

I've seen a few online retailers selling ephedra-based products. But, for those who live in states that made ephedra illegal (such as Illinois), it is restricted. At this point, it's probably a matter of whose willing to sell it.

Also, most online retailers claim that the products they do carry are of limited stock, so once they're gone, I guess they're gone. But, I could easily take that as marketing.

**Madevilz** · 08-31-2005, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

I just don't see how someone would be a Ephedrine non-responder, but I guess anything is possible:

From the informed bodybuilding nutrition ebook (muscletalk.co.uk) 25mg of ephedrine can increase metabolic rate by nearly 10% (source: Astrup, et al 1992)

Anyway, doesnt matter what is true, what does matter though, is that it works.

**J-Rod** · 08-31-2005, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

I just don't see how someone would be a Ephedrine non-responder, but I guess anything is possible:

Truth be told, a 2 to 3% is not very dramatic. It may equate to 100 calorie increase in energy expenditure (example), which is 700 calories over the course of a week. It will take 5 weeks to lose a pound of fat.

Conclusion: It does not matter what you take, if you eat like ****, you will look like **** (save genetics of course). It always comes down to dieting/nutrition and exercise.

I will not that I personally find myself to respond very well to ephedrine and I think it is a great dieting drug/tool. The extra increase in energy expenditure it provides, coupled with the ability to suppress my appetite (especially with Scorch and Syneburn, although I do not recommend this to anyone), makes a big difference.

**Lonny** · 08-31-2005, 12:54 PM

As a something to increase you MR, i don't think ephedrine is effective.

As an all around diet aid i don't think anything can touch it in forms of energy, appetite, synergy with other supplements, and the fact you can add almost anything you want for improved results.

Oh and don't forget the anti-catabolic effects.

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