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    The Dudley Boyz Screwed By WWE And Vince McMahon

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    In case you missed it over the weekend, the team formerly known as The Dudley Boyz was notified by WWE that they couldnít use the Dudley name outside of the company as WWE sent legal letters to anyone and everyone who was using the "Dudley" name in their advertising, telling them to stop. At the Wrestle Reunion 2 convention and show, they worked as Team 3D. When they left ECW for WWE six years ago, ECW owner Paul Heyman told them that he was giving them the rights to the name as a payback for all they had done for his company during their time working for him. He made it clear that he was doing so that in the event they ever left WWE, they could take their professional names with them. Well, apparently Heyman never filed the proper paperwork and WWE has retained the rights to the Dudley names. They have made it clear that they intend to keep the men who created the characters from using them again anywhere but a WWE ring. Personally, I think it's really a low move by Vince McMahon and WWE. If his company had created the Dudley characters and made them into recognizable names, it would be one thing. But, they didn't. The Dudleys were already an established team when they came to WWE, having made their name as the best tag team in the business long before they ever got to McMahon's company. Heyman made his intention clear to give the name to the team before they left ECW and if they had a large cash reserve, they could take WWE to court over this and maybe win. But, that wonít happen. What makes it more galling to me is that, while they would say that they are just "protecting an asset", it seems to me like WWE is just doing this because the Dudleys had the audacity to refuse taking a pay cut when WWE wanted to sign them for less. After all, why would Vince care where they use the name since he has said that he doesn't see TNA or the independents as "competition"? If that were true, he wouldn't be so concerned with seizing something that wasn't even supposed to be his. So, it just comes across as spiteful to me, especially when you consider what Heymanís stated intention was back in 1999. Again, it's not as if Heyman wasn't on record as saying that he gave the Dudleys the name back when they left. But, Vince found a technicality here and seized it, just because he could. Was he within his rights? Yes. Was it morally wrong to do? In my opinion, oh yes. Itís just another example of what Mike Johnson talked about on his hotline recently, you donít cross the boss in WWE. Sad, but true. It certainly sends a message to the WWE current talent, and the message is not a good one.
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    That is really surprising. The Dudleys were let go by WWE because they just didn't have the work to keep paying them. It's not like the Dudleys left for another company. I just don't see Vince's logic by doing this. It really makes no difference to him because Vince is finished with them by his choice. Very odd.
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    They were negotiating their contracts and wanted a reasonable salary, but were about to agree to the comprimise WWE was offering. Johnny Ace, who seems to have a problem with them suddenly decided to take the offer off the table and tell them good day. I imagine the way he spun it to Vince was that they were being greedy and making unreasonable money demands. So it is possible that Vince is convinced that they need to be taught a good lesson now.
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    Originally Posted by NukeDukem
    Johnny Ace, who seems to have a problem with them suddenly decided to take the offer off the table and tell them good day.
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    Originally Posted by NukeDukem
    They were negotiating their contracts and wanted a reasonable salary, but were about to agree to the comprimise WWE was offering. Johnny Ace, who seems to have a problem with them suddenly decided to take the offer off the table and tell them good day. I imagine the way he spun it to Vince was that they were being greedy and making unreasonable money demands. So it is possible that Vince is convinced that they need to be taught a good lesson now.
    Now that seems like the Vince McMahon we all know and love.
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    And here is an example of Vince's bad side.
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    Damn that sucks, heres a question though, if a wrestler uses their real name to wrestle in the wwe, does vince then own the rights to the name? Cause that seriously would suck lol
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    Originally Posted by *ShaGGs*
    Damn that sucks, heres a question though, if a wrestler uses their real name to wrestle in the wwe, does vince then own the rights to the name? Cause that seriously would suck lol
    i doubt it, no one would give someone else ownership over their real name in a contract
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    Originally Posted by *ShaGGs*
    Damn that sucks, heres a question though, if a wrestler uses their real name to wrestle in the wwe, does vince then own the rights to the name? Cause that seriously would suck lol
    No.
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    Originally Posted by *ShaGGs*
    Damn that sucks, heres a question though, if a wrestler uses their real name to wrestle in the wwe, does vince then own the rights to the name? Cause that seriously would suck lol
    Are you serious? lol
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    Originally Posted by Jon Elway
    Are you serious? lol
    hush you ugly ****.
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    Originally Posted by *ShaGGs*
    hush you ugly ****.
    Well you shouldn't ask such an idiotic question...
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    Originally Posted by Jon Elway
    Well you shouldn't ask such an idiotic question...
    and you shouldnt post pictures of your badass head on the message boards, but you still did it.
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    Originally Posted by *ShaGGs*
    and you shouldnt post pictures of your badass head on the message boards, but you still did it.
    I'll take note of that...
    But that doesn't change the fact your question was stupid.
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    Originally Posted by Jon Elway
    I'll take note of that...
    But that doesn't change the fact your question was stupid.
    ok deal, i wont ask questions like that ever again, if you promise to put a 'warning not work safe' caption above your pictures next time you post.
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    Originally Posted by *ShaGGs*
    ok deal, i wont ask questions like that ever again, if you promise to put a 'warning not work safe' caption above your pictures next time you post.
    Deal.
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    In case you missed it over the weekend, the team formerly known as The Dudley Boyz was notified by WWE that they couldnít use the Dudley name outside of the company as WWE sent legal letters to anyone and everyone who was using the "Dudley" name in their advertising, telling them to stop. At the Wrestle Reunion 2 convention and show, they worked as Team 3D. When they left ECW for WWE six years ago, ECW owner Paul Heyman told them that he was giving them the rights to the name as a payback for all they had done for his company during their time working for him. He made it clear that he was doing so that in the event they ever left WWE, they could take their professional names with them. Well, apparently Heyman never filed the proper paperwork and WWE has retained the rights to the Dudley names. They have made it clear that they intend to keep the men who created the characters from using them again anywhere but a WWE ring. Personally, I think it's really a low move by Vince McMahon and WWE. If his company had created the Dudley characters and made them into recognizable names, it would be one thing. But, they didn't. The Dudleys were already an established team when they came to WWE, having made their name as the best tag team in the business long before they ever got to McMahon's company. Heyman made his intention clear to give the name to the team before they left ECW and if they had a large cash reserve, they could take WWE to court over this and maybe win. But, that wonít happen. What makes it more galling to me is that, while they would say that they are just "protecting an asset", it seems to me like WWE is just doing this because the Dudleys had the audacity to refuse taking a pay cut when WWE wanted to sign them for less. After all, why would Vince care where they use the name since he has said that he doesn't see TNA or the independents as "competition"? If that were true, he wouldn't be so concerned with seizing something that wasn't even supposed to be his. So, it just comes across as spiteful to me, especially when you consider what Heymanís stated intention was back in 1999. Again, it's not as if Heyman wasn't on record as saying that he gave the Dudleys the name back when they left. But, Vince found a technicality here and seized it, just because he could. Was he within his rights? Yes. Was it morally wrong to do? In my opinion, oh yes. Itís just another example of what Mike Johnson talked about on his hotline recently, you donít cross the boss in WWE. Sad, but true. It certainly sends a message to the WWE current talent, and the message is not a good one.




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    The Dudleys sucked anyways if they were good they would have been signed.
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    The Dudleys sucked anyways if they were good they would have been signed.
    apparently you have no idea the whole story behind why they weren't signed, do you? do a search and you will hear about all the politics behind the re-signing of the team.
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    I think they'll find a way around it.....probably change the spelling or something (i.e. Dudlee). Or......they could buy the rights from Vince for a hefty price. Vince didn't make his money by being nice to people. If Vince somehow gained the rights to the name Dudley, the only ppl to blame are the ones that let him obtain the rights. Maybe D-Von and Bubba will legally change their name to "Dudley" and wrestle under their then legal names
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