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08-29-2005, 07:22 AM
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Heart is The King
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Top Companies.....The Unforgivable Mistakes!!
Top Companies Sells Great Products,but Sometimes they really f*ck up with one or more products.which companies do you think made/makes that??Which Product,AND WHY??
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08-29-2005, 07:25 AM
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i dont remember the name of the product, but optimum released something last year that they hyped up big time. it didnt meet the claims at all. they took a credibility hit from it.
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08-29-2005, 07:27 AM
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Heart is The King
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My Personal Opinion:i'll say UNIVERSAL,they sell good stuff (i loved their Storm) but they really f**cked up with their M-stack and many other Animal Products (not all of them).
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08-29-2005, 07:30 AM
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Heart is The King
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Originally Posted by CreatineMan
i dont remember the name of the product, but optimum released something last year that they hyped up big time. it didnt meet the claims at all. they took a credibility hit from it.
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do you remember anything about it?Ingredients,price,what is it supposed to do??
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08-29-2005, 07:58 AM
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optimum adenergy
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08-29-2005, 08:09 AM
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you-this thread
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08-29-2005, 08:10 AM
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TwinLab - pretty much EVERYTHING they've put out is waaaaaay underdosed.
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08-29-2005, 08:30 AM
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Heart is The King
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Originally Posted by Slated
you-this thread
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you don't have to be dick about it dude.i'll tell you what,when answering a question here you have 3 choices:
1)Answer and help others.
2)Don't Answer and STFU!
3)Tell the person who answered to Search POLITELY(i searched this time!).
it's that simple you dumbass.ps
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08-29-2005, 08:49 AM
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I really like ALRI's products but they ****ed up w/ N'Gorge.
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08-29-2005, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason_87
optimum adenergy
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thats the one
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08-29-2005, 08:52 AM
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Heart is The King
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Originally Posted by Pit Bull
I really like ALRI's products but they ****ed up w/ N'Gorge.
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many people like N'Gorge and might disagree with you,but thanks for replying.
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08-29-2005, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Abu Misho
you don't have to be dick about it dude.i'll tell you what,when answering a question here you have 3 choices:
1)Answer and help others.
2)Don't Answer and STFU!
3)Tell the person who answered to Search POLITELY(i searched this time!).
it's that simple you dumbass.ps
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Man !
When talking to regular users on this board:
1) Dont be an ******* since they have lots of respect on these boards (most anyways)
2) Ignore there comments
3) With how much knowledge they have compared to u- STFU
So since ur new to these boards- WELCOME !
But no need to comment to respected users here even tho sosmetimes they have pissy days 
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08-29-2005, 09:29 AM
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New Coke.
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08-29-2005, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Par Deus
New Coke.
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ugh. that stuff IS horrible...
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08-29-2005, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by <^>
Man !
When talking to regular users on this board:
1) Dont be an ******* since they have lots of respect on these boards (most anyways)
2) Ignore there comments
3) With how much knowledge they have compared to u- STFU
So since ur new to these boards- WELCOME !
But no need to comment to respected users here even tho sosmetimes they have pissy days |
who really cares that he is a "respected" member.... seriously.... whoo cares??? besides you.How is he being a ******** when your buddy slated is being a ******** first. hahaha. With how much knowledge he has..... does it matter in this thread??? stfu.
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08-29-2005, 11:06 AM
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The All time mistake :
Legal Gear - Product X - Dermasize
why they used a carrier that made people break out is beyond me...
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08-29-2005, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Skigazzi
The All time mistake :
Legal Gear - Product X - Dermasize
why they used a carrier that made people break out is beyond me...
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Haha sorry to say it wasn't the carrier. 3-4 of the ingredients were straight poison. Guess you didn't follow the product too well.
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08-29-2005, 01:06 PM
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Heart is The King
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Originally Posted by EphedraFree
who really cares that he is a "respected" member.... seriously.... whoo cares??? besides you.How is he being a ******** when your buddy slated is being a ******** first. hahaha. With how much knowledge he has..... does it matter in this thread??? stfu.
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Thanks Bro,when i read <^>'s comment,i told myself:"i'm out of this site that has people putting their heads between their legs and don't defend themselves when they are right."but when i read your comment i really changed my mind,this is the best site to learn from! and <^>, you have a lot to learn from EphedraFree.
PEACE
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08-29-2005, 01:08 PM
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Heart is The King
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Originally Posted by CogInTheWheel
Haha sorry to say it wasn't the carrier. 3-4 of the ingredients were straight poison. Guess you didn't follow the product too well.
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hahaha,funny
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08-29-2005, 01:13 PM
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Heart is The King
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I found two companies that didn't make mistakes until now (hope they continue like that),they are:Controlled Labs,and MAN.anyone else?
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08-29-2005, 01:14 PM
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Everyone makes mistakes - why are they deemed 'unforgivable'?
The companies that make mistakes are at least trying to be innovative and come up with something new. Not everything works. I don't see how that dooms an entire company.
I'm sure you f'ed up a couple times and have since been forgiven or been given a second chance.
Any company that performs research and development will have products fail.
All the major car companies have performed recalls for some reason or another, yet people continue to buy vehicles from them.
Drug companies make thousands of drugs that save many lives and improve people's quality of life, but a couple people out of millions have a problem and they get sued.....F'in ridiculous.
Last edited by pharm; 08-29-2005 at 01:21 PM.
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08-29-2005, 01:25 PM
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Heart is The King
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Originally Posted by pharm
Everyone makes mistakes - why are they deemed 'unforgivable'?
The companies that make mistakes are at least trying to be innovative and come up with something new. Not everything works. I don't see how that dooms an entire company.
I'm sure you f'ed up a couple times and have since been forgiven.
Any company that performs research and development will have products fail.
All the major car companies have performed recalls for some reason or another, yet people continue to buy vehicles from them.
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Everyone makes mistakes,that's the most used sentence by ME.but mistakes become Unforgivable when they still exist and defended.i'll give you an example:Universal Animal M-Stack is **** and there are a lot better products,but is it removed or even replaced by a better product,NO!and what are you saying:cars and medicine companies that make bad products should be forgived?! if those 2 of a million didn't sue the company who f**cked up a lot other people will be harmed badly.and that is not even the case with supplements companies because these are DAITRY SUPPLEMENTS,remember: "This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease."
Last edited by Abu Misho; 08-29-2005 at 01:31 PM.
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08-29-2005, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Abu Misho
Everyone makes mistakes,that's the most used sentence by ME.but mistakes become Unforgivable when they still exist and defended.i'll give you an example:Universal Animal M-Stack is **** and there are a lot better products,but is it removed or even replaced by a better product,NO!
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Most likely they don't replace it because #1- they are still making money on it/people are still buying it. Popular opinion says it's ****, but until they have a reason to remove it or replace it, why? Companies don't sell things that they continually lose money on. Until they lose money or get negative feedback from adverse reactions, it's not hurting anyone.
Dietary supplements are not regulated by the FDA.
Maybe I am missing something, but I have not seen Universal defend it. Advertising is not defending it.
One bad product out of 20 makes the company bad?
I still don't see how this is unforgivable, sorry. I need a better example.
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08-29-2005, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Abu Misho
Top Companies.....The Unforgivable Mistakes!!
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=427818
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08-29-2005, 01:37 PM
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so the other 1,999,998 people who had no problems now need to suffer by pulling the drug that has helped them because of 2 people?
what if there is no alternative?
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08-29-2005, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pharm
Most likely they don't replace it because #1- they are still making money on it/people are still buying it. Popular opinion says it's ****, but until they have a reason to remove it or replace it, why? Companies don't sell things that they continually lose money on. Until they lose money or get negative feedback from adverse reactions, it's not hurting anyone.
Dietary supplements are not regulated by the FDA.
Maybe I am missing something, but I have not seen Universal defend it. Advertising is not defending it.
One bad product out of 20 makes the company bad?
I still don't see how this is unforgivable, sorry. I need a better example.
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because it's still on the "top 50" people should be aware of it.you're judging a product by being on the top 50 SOLD PRODUCTS list,that's BS!white blood isn't on the list,does it mean that it's not good,it's the best NO boosting product i know.and i'm not here to tell companies what to sell and what to not sell ,i'm here to help people what to buy and what to not buy.does it hurt anyone? i'm sure it does (spending your money on **** doesn't hurt you??  ).and dude,i'm not saying that One bad product out of 20 makes the company bad (i've Mentioned that i love their Strom) but that is called an unforgivable mistake and people should know about it.and this is the point of this thread.
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08-29-2005, 01:56 PM
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ok,in words:liquid creatine........agreed.
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08-29-2005, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pharm
so the other 1,999,998 people who had no problems now need to suffer by pulling the drug that has helped them because of 2 people?
what if there is no alternative?
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how are you sure that those 1,999,998 people had no problems? maybe not for now.and i'm not so sure about pulling a medicine from the market because it hurt just two people and the others had 100% no side effects,did that happened?and if there is no alternative does that mean there couldn't be in the future.........the solution is to keep it legal until a safer one appears......is that so hard.
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08-29-2005, 02:28 PM
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Heart is The King
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So Until Now (NOT FROM ME):
Liquid Creatine.
Legal Gear Product X.
New Coke
ALRI N'Gorge.
Optimum Adenergy.
TwinLab.
Universal M-Stack (THAT'S FROM ME)
ANY OTHERS???COMMENTS???
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08-29-2005, 02:50 PM
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