Difference between high pulls and upright rows with a wide grip?

[Minotaur]

Just what is the difference, if any?

High pulls are the same beginning movement as a hang clean, but without flipping the bar and wrists. The bar is to be kept close to the body. So how is this different than an upright row with a wide (clean width) grip?

[GoJu]

Just what is the difference, if any?

High pulls are the same beginning movement as a hang clean, but without flipping the bar and wrists. The bar is to be kept close to the body. So how is this different than an upright row with a wide (clean width) grip?

high pulls are done from the ground, with typically more weight and alot more explosively than an upright row, which is a slow move.

[Minotaur]

That's about the only difference I could think of. Thanks.

[Flying_Fox]

In a high pull, you pull up the weight mainly using your upper back, compared to delts in an upright row.

[bookv]

You also get the momentum generated from your lower body as you "explode" the weight up. The high pull is more of a power move than the upright row.

[vegasdsm]

upright row uses a stand up (straight back) position

high pull you lean over and it much more explosive (and it's somewhat of full body ex.)

[Minotaur]

Great, thanks guys. I'll use the high pulls form for back, and upright rows form for delts.

[KingSht]

High pulls are really nothing like upright rows. Someone who has never learnt them might think they're similar, especially when they look at this clip which is invalid:

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/.../HighPull.html

Upright rows are all arm strength. No lower body involvement.

High pulls are intiated like an olympic lift with the lower body (hips, knees, ankles). The bar doesn't even end up all that high with the main upper body movement being the rapid shrug.

This is where your high pull should end: