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    The Mass Stack/Post Nutrition/Glutimine?

    Okay I've been taking the No-Explode,Cellmass,and Nitrix. Why is it that you have to take these on an empty stomach. Big Question though, After I workout I used to love to eat fast carbs and whey shake, now I can't. I have to take Cellmass than wait 45min and eat the post workout meal, but by then it could be stored as fat due to eating the fast carbs 45min to 1hr after the cellmass takes effect. Do I need to eat that post meal or not.? Also I hate that my consumption of glutimine has to be under 10g, that means I can't drink two 100% whey shakes, or take N-Large how am I supposed to consume extra calories easily?
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    How long have you been taking it? I already did one 12 week trial with the mass stack. It worked really good for me. I gained 19-20 lbs. during the process. I didn't really follow all of the rules on the bottle, and it didn't seem to make a difference, except for the no-xplode. The nitrix I take three times a day whether on an empty stomach or not. The cellmass I take directly after my workout, and only wait thirty minutes to take my second shake of the day. About another half hour after that I eat my last meal of the day. I would take both shakes and the n-large anyway, unless you have some sort of health problems.
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    Did you have any discomfort while taking No-Explode(diarrhea) and if so does it go away after excess use? Also did you ever feel like your stomach was bloated or fat?
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    Here's how I take mine:
    7AM - Nitrix and morning meal
    9AM - Extremely small snack, with lots of water
    10:30AM - NOXplode and make my bottle of CellMass
    10:45-11:30 - Workout (sip on CellMass during the last 15 minutes)
    11:30 - Finish bottle of CellMass in one major chug
    11:50 - Whey shake
    ~12-12:10 - Meal
    Etc, etc til about 8ish - Nitrix
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    Originally Posted by TomCollins0307
    Did you have any discomfort while taking No-Explode(diarrhea) and if so does it go away after excess use? Also did you ever feel like your stomach was bloated or fat?
    Even though this question wasn't directed at me...

    When I first started using NOXplode, I had no problems except for an incredible pump.
    I bought PumpTech a week or two ago.
    For one workout, I took my 2 scoops of NOXplode and 1 serving PumpTech (5 caps), within 10 minutes I had to run home and **** like crazy. Three or four times within the next hour, it kept happening. The first time was the worst, however, and had a red tint to it (which I'm positive wasn't blood, both the NOXplode and PumpTech are red so I think that's where it came from).
    Needless to say, I never tried that again.
    However I can take 5 PumpTech caps, or 5 caps and 1 scoop NOXplode with no bad effects.
    I believe the problem came from taking too much at one time. It may also happen if you take 3 scoops NOXplode, too, but I don't feel like testing it.
    In my opinion it's best to stick with 2 servings, be it just NOXplode or NOXplode and PumpTech (or whatever other kind of supplement follows those lines).
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    Originally Posted by TomCollins0307
    Okay I've been taking the No-Explode,Cellmass,and Nitrix.
    That's a damn shame
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    Originally Posted by lordmatt
    Here's how I take mine:
    7AM - Nitrix and morning meal
    9AM - Extremely small snack, with lots of water
    10:30AM - NOXplode and make my bottle of CellMass
    10:45-11:30 - Workout (sip on CellMass during the last 15 minutes)
    11:30 - Finish bottle of CellMass in one major chug
    11:50 - Whey shake
    ~12-12:10 - Meal
    Etc, etc til about 8ish - Nitrix
    do NOT sip away at your cellmass, and not mix it and LEAVE IT. it turns into creatinine, which is completely useless. mix it and take it within moments, do NOT listen to lordmatt. im sure everyone will agree with me on this one. creatine turns into useless creatinine when mixed and left. also, take it at once, dont sip, you want it all to go in at once. hope that helps
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    Originally Posted by martymcfly
    do NOT sip away at your cellmass, and not mix it and LEAVE IT. it turns into creatinine, which is completely useless. mix it and take it within moments, do NOT listen to lordmatt. im sure everyone will agree with me on this one. creatine turns into useless creatinine when mixed and left. also, take it at once, dont sip, you want it all to go in at once. hope that helps
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    It takes HOURS for it to convert / breakdown.

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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g
    That's a damn shame
    agreed
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g
    That's a damn shame
    absolutely. Bull $%#& Nutrition really sucks. They are the new Muscletech. all talk, little effectiveness. (just from my experience).
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    Always have to take a dump in the thirty minutes between taking the no-xplode and working out. Not hershey squirts though. It has made me feel like I was going to throw up before though when I took the nitrix at the same time and on a completely empty stomach.
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    I believe the time frame for creatine converting to creatinine in a solution is about 4-6 hours.
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    Okay, I want to start with Mass Stack. I understand why NO-Xplode and Nitrix must be taken on ampty stomach and allone. But I couldnt understan why also Cellmass? I read lots of studies where was written that best absorbtion of Creatine was with combination Whey/Carb. Do you know why it is recomanded to take Cellmass w/o Whey/Carb? Did somebode of you tray it? Also how long do you wait to take Protein/Carb after the Nitrix?
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    the only way i would take the BSN mass stack is if, i got it for free and there were no other alternatives for me to buy.
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    the only way i would take the BSN mass stack is if, i got it for free and there were no other alternatives for me to buy.
    i'd ebay it.
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g
    It takes HOURS for it to convert / breakdown.

    Patrick Arnold or Lok7y might know exactly how many hours.
    still i do not reccomend that someone "sip away" at a creatine regardless. doesn't have any benefits, and it should be taken at once.
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    Originally Posted by martymcfly
    still i do not reccomend that someone "sip away" at a creatine regardless. doesn't have any benefits, and it should be taken at once.
    There are numerous reasons why someone would want to "sip away" at a creatine... especially if using Malto / Dex as a carb source (very popular on this board).
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