First of all, I'd like to point out that this is a serious post. I am not a troll.
We all know that testosterone is a hormone that can promote an anabolic environment in the body. It seems that higher levels of testosterone in the blood correlate to higher levels of hypertrophy (otherwise no one would take anabolic steroids). In addition increased levels of testosterone also appear to promote higher levels of libido (hence the marketing of test-boosting supplements such as tribulus as "performance" enhancers). As teen bodybuilders, our lifting regimens and nutrition/supplement plans cause us to have elevated levels of testosterone. As a result, we have the tendency to "beat off" more than the average teen (not that the average teen doesn't do this a lot). However, I have read that this act decreases the levels of free testosterone in circulation for a significant period of time. Obviously, decreased levels of free testosterone would result in a less anabolic environment. There must be a solution to this dilemna.
The obvious answer would seem to be, "stop jacking off stupid!" However, I have heard that extended periods of this sort of "abstinence" can actually decrease your testosterone level. I posted this topic in the advanced teen forum for several reasons:
1. Teen guys tend to relate to this problem.
2. Worrying about the hormonal aspect of muscle growth is a somewhat advanced part of bodybuilding and should only be considered after solid training and nutrition plans are created.
I believe this topic could lead to a good discussion and would benefit all of us at these forums. The questions are: What is the optimal pattern of masturbation in order to maintain maximum testosterone levels? Does the difference in testosterone actually make a difference in terms of gains? Feel free to correct me if I have any misconceptions. I am thinking maybe a 2 times a week schedule. Please provide any input you have. It would seem that optimizing testosterone levels is a good way to promote gains.
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08-16-2005, 04:52 PM #1
Testosterone Levels, Masturbation, and bodybuilding
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08-16-2005, 05:53 PM #2
i'm going to be honest with you
bodybuilding is a lifestyle, but it shouldn't consume your life
when your at the point when your debating how often to masterbate for the best results, it's consuming your life.
beat off when your horny, if your not, don't. it really cannot make that much of a difference
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08-16-2005, 05:58 PM #3
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08-16-2005, 06:13 PM #5
I love BBing and all, but there is no way I'm gonna stop having sex.
I've talked to a doctor over at bb4u (dif bbing forum) who said it doesn't affect gains at all, and I've read a few other FAQ type things saying it has no result, but there was a link not too long ago saying if you abstain from sex/masturbation for 7 days you get a small test boost. I tried to find it but couldn't, too many threads on the same topic.
Anyways my opinion on it is that you shouldn't abstain from sex or beating it just for a small test boost.You should always play fair when you have the winning hand.
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08-17-2005, 02:28 PM #9
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Originally Posted by Davesta
I try to keep it at about no more than twice every 3 weeks for optimum libido. I'm serious as a heart attack. I don't know about other guys, but it's like this for me. It's tough sometimes resisting to jerk off but it pays off in the social scene.
Of course, if you're starting to have wet dreams then it's your body telling you it's time to get laid, or at least masturbate.
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08-17-2005, 03:03 PM #11
There would be no advantage in terms of adapative benefit for sex if desire suddenly decreased for days etc after one copulated. For males, evolution is all about spreading our genes.
Testosterone may lower after masturbation but the hypothalamus immediately seeks homostatis and returns it to normal.
Plus high testosterone does not build muscle necessarily, its only when it has a high ability to promote nitrogen retention and anabolicism. Masturbation doesn't affect this.
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08-21-2005, 04:07 AM #15
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08-23-2005, 03:38 PM #16
so whats the recomendation on how many times a week you should busta nut? Would it be like a weekly cheat meal or somethin where you only do it once for the benefit? Hmm I think someone just made a new bodybuilding term.
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08-23-2005, 04:21 PM #17Originally Posted by curb0303
Ejaculate contains a lot of zinc, if people jerk off too much and lose too much zinc and don't replenish it either from their diet or multivitamins, then "supposedly" loss of eyesight can occur.
Good thing we eat lots of oats then huh?
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08-24-2005, 07:10 PM #22
man I post this link once, i post it 1000 times. I really hope this settles any questions - http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/south99.htm.
And personally, I don't masturbate any more or any less because i bodybuild or after reading that article. Hell I'm even typing this up with one hand! lol, j/k"Bodybuilding is not a pastime, it's a way of life"
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08-27-2005, 06:29 AM #26Originally Posted by johnny_boy
thats a rather silly thing to say, the elevated levels that were said were marginal, maybe 10 points. So to say that you "feel" it at this point is bull****. Secondly, if you did actually feel the increased effects of testosterone don't you think you would have had an even higher desire to masturbate? What other effects did you notice? Increased acne, sweating? Or did you just think you were more intense, and angry? GRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
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08-27-2005, 06:36 AM #27
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Originally Posted by bigmanj
*runs to the bathroom with one of dad's playboys*[/sarcasm]
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Enough with this thread boys seriously it makes no difference, go have a pull already. Or better yet, go find a nice girl to do it for you and for 5 minutes forget about your testosterone levels.It's being a part of the Red, White and Green that makes me a Rooting Machine. And when you feel my mighty Stallion, you will know you have been with a true Italian. :D
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08-27-2005, 10:15 AM #28
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08-27-2005, 10:02 PM #30Originally Posted by BadWog
No, ur making my point exactly, I'm saying that there is such a SLIGHT difference in testosterone levels between jerking off and not, that it doesn't even produce any noticeable effects of changes in testosterone levels... ie. acne, agression, and that it was all in that kid's head.
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