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    Lightbulb Testosterone Levels, Masturbation, and bodybuilding

    First of all, I'd like to point out that this is a serious post. I am not a troll.
    We all know that testosterone is a hormone that can promote an anabolic environment in the body. It seems that higher levels of testosterone in the blood correlate to higher levels of hypertrophy (otherwise no one would take anabolic steroids). In addition increased levels of testosterone also appear to promote higher levels of libido (hence the marketing of test-boosting supplements such as tribulus as "performance" enhancers). As teen bodybuilders, our lifting regimens and nutrition/supplement plans cause us to have elevated levels of testosterone. As a result, we have the tendency to "beat off" more than the average teen (not that the average teen doesn't do this a lot). However, I have read that this act decreases the levels of free testosterone in circulation for a significant period of time. Obviously, decreased levels of free testosterone would result in a less anabolic environment. There must be a solution to this dilemna.
    The obvious answer would seem to be, "stop jacking off stupid!" However, I have heard that extended periods of this sort of "abstinence" can actually decrease your testosterone level. I posted this topic in the advanced teen forum for several reasons:
    1. Teen guys tend to relate to this problem.
    2. Worrying about the hormonal aspect of muscle growth is a somewhat advanced part of bodybuilding and should only be considered after solid training and nutrition plans are created.

    I believe this topic could lead to a good discussion and would benefit all of us at these forums. The questions are: What is the optimal pattern of masturbation in order to maintain maximum testosterone levels? Does the difference in testosterone actually make a difference in terms of gains? Feel free to correct me if I have any misconceptions. I am thinking maybe a 2 times a week schedule. Please provide any input you have. It would seem that optimizing testosterone levels is a good way to promote gains.
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    i'm going to be honest with you
    bodybuilding is a lifestyle, but it shouldn't consume your life
    when your at the point when your debating how often to masterbate for the best results, it's consuming your life.
    beat off when your horny, if your not, don't. it really cannot make that much of a difference
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    Beating off does not in anyway decrease your test levels. This is a fact and is not debatable.
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    Surely your question also pertains to those of us who are having actual sex, not only for those who "beat off"?
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    I love BBing and all, but there is no way I'm gonna stop having sex.

    I've talked to a doctor over at bb4u (dif bbing forum) who said it doesn't affect gains at all, and I've read a few other FAQ type things saying it has no result, but there was a link not too long ago saying if you abstain from sex/masturbation for 7 days you get a small test boost. I tried to find it but couldn't, too many threads on the same topic.

    Anyways my opinion on it is that you shouldn't abstain from sex or beating it just for a small test boost.
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    its not gonna make a difference. beat away.
    clean and jerk
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    Jacking off might lower the free test circulating in your body a little for a small period of time, but the day after or so your test levels should be higher too.
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    Originally Posted by aZn PEC-age
    What is the optimal pattern of masturbation in order to maintain maximum testosterone levels?
    Are you serious?! I'm all for learning about the scientific aspect of training, but this is just silly!!
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    Originally Posted by Davesta
    Are you serious?! I'm all for learning about the scientific aspect of training, but this is just silly!!
    I must be honest; my "libido" is down for at least 2 days after I jerk off. I am so much more creative around other people, esp. girls when I don't jerk off for a while. Obviously for me it has something to do with hormones.

    I try to keep it at about no more than twice every 3 weeks for optimum libido. I'm serious as a heart attack. I don't know about other guys, but it's like this for me. It's tough sometimes resisting to jerk off but it pays off in the social scene.

    Of course, if you're starting to have wet dreams then it's your body telling you it's time to get laid, or at least masturbate.
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    I must admit i have thought about it, but then thought...........meh!!!

    My libido is too high apparently!!! i never have any problems being 'creative' around girls and i do it as and when i please. I wouldnt worry about it if i was you, im me and i dont
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    There would be no advantage in terms of adapative benefit for sex if desire suddenly decreased for days etc after one copulated. For males, evolution is all about spreading our genes.

    Testosterone may lower after masturbation but the hypothalamus immediately seeks homostatis and returns it to normal.

    Plus high testosterone does not build muscle necessarily, its only when it has a high ability to promote nitrogen retention and anabolicism. Masturbation doesn't affect this.
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    My mummy told me that if I masturbate I'll go blind...
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    Originally Posted by BadWog
    My mummy told me that if I masturbate I'll go blind...

    hahahahaha
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    everytime you masturbate.......
    god kills a panda bear.
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    Originally Posted by Undermod
    everytime you masturbate.......
    god kills a panda bear.
    then I must be the reason they are an endangered species
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    so whats the recomendation on how many times a week you should busta nut? Would it be like a weekly cheat meal or somethin where you only do it once for the benefit? Hmm I think someone just made a new bodybuilding term.
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    Originally Posted by curb0303
    hahahahaha
    lol, there is a tidbit of of pseudo-truth in that...but its so pointless why this myth even came up is pitiful.
    Ejaculate contains a lot of zinc, if people jerk off too much and lose too much zinc and don't replenish it either from their diet or multivitamins, then "supposedly" loss of eyesight can occur.

    Good thing we eat lots of oats then huh?
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    Originally Posted by addiction543
    when your at the point when your debating how often to masterbate for the best results, it's consuming your life.
    LMAO, reps.

    I will say though that Ive often pondered this question myself. Like in boxing movies they often say "Dont have sex the night before a fight", but that may just be so your not tired...
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    lol oh gawd.. hahahahhahahahha
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    Personally, i feel like i have more energy when i dont masturbate.
    Masturbation/sex burns calories, and it seems like your "laid back" and "relaxed" after u do it too.
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    BB is a lot for me but i don't make my life only around it. If i don't empty my nuts i become violent and angry because training increase a lot libido.

    I think i beat off too much because some day i can beat off tree time and still hungry
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    man I post this link once, i post it 1000 times. I really hope this settles any questions - http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/south99.htm.

    And personally, I don't masturbate any more or any less because i bodybuild or after reading that article. Hell I'm even typing this up with one hand! lol, j/k
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    Personally, I think if you don't masturbate and just go workout when you feel all hyped up then you would get better gains =op.
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    Originally Posted by patfactorx
    Personally, I think if you don't masturbate and just go workout when you feel all hyped up then you would get better gains =op.
    same here; kind of like an indirect relationship between BB and masturbation
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    i find that the less i masturbate, the more confident, strong and just better i feel. My record was going without it for 2 and a half weeks and it made me feel all the effects of elevated testosterone, i dont think its a good idea to go that long without it regularly though
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    Originally Posted by johnny_boy
    i find that the less i masturbate, the more confident, strong and just better i feel. My record was going without it for 2 and a half weeks and it made me feel all the effects of elevated testosterone, i dont think its a good idea to go that long without it regularly though

    thats a rather silly thing to say, the elevated levels that were said were marginal, maybe 10 points. So to say that you "feel" it at this point is bull****. Secondly, if you did actually feel the increased effects of testosterone don't you think you would have had an even higher desire to masturbate? What other effects did you notice? Increased acne, sweating? Or did you just think you were more intense, and angry? GRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
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    Originally Posted by bigmanj
    thats a rather silly thing to say, the elevated levels that were said were marginal, maybe 10 points. So to say that you "feel" it at this point is bull****. Secondly, if you did actually feel the increased effects of testosterone don't you think you would have had an even higher desire to masturbate? What other effects did you notice? Increased acne, sweating? Or did you just think you were more intense, and angry? GRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
    Wait a minute, you're saying the more one masturbates the less acne they have???????!!!!!!!!

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    Enough with this thread boys seriously it makes no difference, go have a pull already. Or better yet, go find a nice girl to do it for you and for 5 minutes forget about your testosterone levels.
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    Since i started lifting i feel i've only wanked off twise a day, before lifting doing it 5 times a day aint unusual especially when im at the computer :P
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    It doesnt matter, when you sleep you jerk off anyway
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    Originally Posted by BadWog
    Wait a minute, you're saying the more one masturbates the less acne they have???????!!!!!!!!

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    Enough with this thread boys seriously it makes no difference, go have a pull already. Or better yet, go find a nice girl to do it for you and for 5 minutes forget about your testosterone levels.

    No, ur making my point exactly, I'm saying that there is such a SLIGHT difference in testosterone levels between jerking off and not, that it doesn't even produce any noticeable effects of changes in testosterone levels... ie. acne, agression, and that it was all in that kid's head.
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