Muscle Milk and Whey? Should I take them both!?

**gunsnbam** · 08-16-2005, 11:39 AM

I have ordered "Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein" but I hear I should take it along with CytoSport Muscle Milk. Please tell me what the difference between the Whey and Muscle Milk is. Should I get them both? When should I take them? I want to lose weight and gain strength by the way.

**pu12en12g** · 08-16-2005, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by gunsnbam

I want to lose weight and gain strength by the way.

Good luck

Muscle Milk is definatly NOT optimal for losing fat.

**gunsnbam** · 08-16-2005, 11:44 AM

I had another thread where I was saying I needed to lose some fat and they said I should though....Once I do get muscle and no fat should I switch?

**pu12en12g** · 08-16-2005, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by gunsnbam

I had another thread where I was saying I needed to lose some fat and they said I should though....Once I do get muscle and no fat should I switch?

Even when bulking, Muscle Milk should only be used as a absolute last resort.

When the time comes to bulk, focus on quality, calorie dense foods instead.

**gunsnbam** · 08-16-2005, 11:47 AM

Wow you seem pretty negative on Muscle Milk....Do I need to get some fish oil pills? What do they do?

**freakie** · 08-16-2005, 11:50 AM

Muscle Milk isn't bad. If it fits into your macronutrient requirements then go ahead and use it.

**pu12en12g** · 08-16-2005, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by gunsnbam

Wow you seem pretty negative on Muscle Milk....Do I need to get some fish oil pills? What do they do?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/efa.html

**gunsnbam** · 08-16-2005, 11:52 AM

Glutamine more specificly "Prolab Glutamine Powder"? Should I get it?

**pu12en12g** · 08-16-2005, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by gunsnbam

Glutamine Powder

Waste of money...complete details:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=171886

**freakie** · 08-16-2005, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by gunsnbam

Well what do you think of fish oil pills? Also Glutamine more specificly "Prolab Glutamine Powder"?

EFA's (fish oil) are an essential supplement that every human being on earth should be taking, save perhaps eskimos and other cultures that eat a great deal of cold water fish.
Don't waste your money on glutamine unless you are going to main line it.

**iron619** · 08-16-2005, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by gunsnbam

I have ordered "Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein" but I hear I should take it along with CytoSport Muscle Milk. Please tell me what the difference between the Whey and Muscle Milk is. Should I get them both? When should I take them? I want to lose weight and gain strength by the way.

That is exactly what I consume for post workout. I mix 16 oz of 1% milk, 1 scoop of ON Whey, and 1 scoop of Muscle Milk (Can't go wrong with Mocha or cookies n' cream!). Then of course, I have real whole foods...baked potato, banannas, salmon..etc. Muscle Milk, however, can get pricey, if you take the recommended 2 scoops per serving. If you take the 2 scoops per serving, then that nearly $30 tub will only last you 2 weeks. NOT very cost effective compared to ON Whey.

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

...Muscle Milk should only be used as a absolute last resort.

But it tastes soooooo good!

**iron619** · 08-16-2005, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by gunsnbam

Glutamine more specificly "Prolab Glutamine Powder"? Should I get it?

Sorry guys, we all know this topic has been beaten to death, and pu12en12g has provided an excellent link to this much debated topic, but I wanted to address this question with these attachments.

Check out this article from the July 2005 issue of Muscular Development.
It details the pro/cons of glutamine supplementation. (Hopefully you guys can read it!)

Good luck.

**gunsnbam** · 08-16-2005, 12:30 PM

Well my pops wont let me get creatine (im 15) and you guys are saying Muscle Milk is bad. Why is it bad?

....I guess im just going to go with my whey, multivitams and the fish oil.

**freakie** · 08-16-2005, 12:33 PM

People don't like Muscle Milk because it has a lot of fat and calories per serving. It is also primarily a micellar casein blend.

**gunsnbam** · 08-16-2005, 12:34 PM

Oh and is "NOW Salmon Oil" a good choice? Is it totally safe? And about the Muscle Milk. My dad wont let me get creatine so couldnt I kinda substitute the creatine for a scoop of Muscle Milk in my protine shake? Because it says its in there sorta

**freakie** · 08-16-2005, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by gunsnbam

Oh and is "NOW Salmon Oil" a good choice? Is it totally safe? And about the Muscle Milk. My dad wont let me get creatine so couldnt I kinda substitute the creatine for a scoop of Muscle Milk in my protine shake? Because it says its in there sorta

Sure. Good fish oil supplements are molecularly distilled so you won't have to worry about mercury and PCB's if you buy a good brand. NOW is a good brand. I'd probably go with the NOW Omega-3. It's a bit cheaper.

**gunsnbam** · 08-16-2005, 03:53 PM

OK sweet I think I will get that. I have 1 LAST question. Tell me how Muscle Milk gives you creatine because I was wanting to just put 1 scoop (the normal size is 2) into my protine shakes so I can have some creatine and a little more protine.

**kroniks** · 08-16-2005, 04:06 PM

I know this guy's trying to cut/gain strength but for all us hardgainers out there, isn't the fat in Muscle Milk a PLUS for bulking up?? Btw, I recommend that you use Isopure as it has 0 carbs and hardly any calories. ON however, is notorious for having the best calorie-protein ratio.

**gunsnbam** · 08-16-2005, 04:18 PM

Well I have already ordered the "Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Protein" and its low in carbs and stuff so I'm just going to use that....BUT what does fish oil pills DO!? I hear they are really good for you but what do they do!? Burn fat? By the way I would get the "NOW Omega-3"

**armorforsleep** · 08-16-2005, 04:44 PM

whats something good like muscle milk that has creatine and a good source of protein for post workout??

**gunsnbam** · 08-16-2005, 06:10 PM

Yes...and somebody tell me what fish oil pills do!? Do they take fat off?

**pu12en12g** · 08-16-2005, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by gunsnbam

Yes...and somebody tell me what fish oil pills do!? Do they take fat off?

No.

diet and cardio "take fat off"

**gunsnbam** · 08-16-2005, 06:16 PM

Well what the crap do fish oil pills do? lol should i get them?...i mean are they very important?

**BINKS_1** · 08-16-2005, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by pu12en12g

Good luck

Muscle Milk is definatly NOT optimal for losing fat.

agreed theres like 18 grams of fat in one serving. Shoule be like 5-10. For a good caesin with lower fat try VPX's Micellean. I think it has like 1 g of fat.

**gunsnbam** · 08-16-2005, 06:52 PM

Well I thought I could half the serving and add it to my protine shake of whey. Is that a good idea? And is VPX's Micellean just another protine shake because I have already ordered 5lbs of the whey.

**Sixpack** · 08-16-2005, 07:29 PM

VPX's Micellean is a protein blend. It will take longer to digest then a regular whey protein will

**aceman0920** · 08-16-2005, 07:48 PM

if u like muscle milk get evopro....same company, cheaper, and no fat, w/ all the evopro goodness..........................NOOB

**Sixpack** · 08-16-2005, 07:58 PM

And the added malto

Originally Posted by aceman0920

if u like muscle milk get evopro....same company, cheaper, and no fat, w/ all the evopro goodness..........................NOOB

**aceman0920** · 08-16-2005, 08:01 PM

let me guess, u recommend XFUP right?

**Sixpack** · 08-16-2005, 08:03 PM

Well its up too you actually I would recommend UP or matrix 5.0 ,VPX Micclean over evopro

Originally Posted by aceman0920

let me guess, u recommend XFUP right?

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