Hey what do you guys think is the best mma style? so many emphasize on only punching, submission, ground fighting, standing fighting, is there one that combines all of them? and which has been most effective and proven on the streets if you guys know. i have searched and have not been able to find one that relates all of those to one style of fighting, so im just looking for feedback. thanks in advance.
John
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08-12-2005, 06:00 PM #1
which is the best mma style?
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08-12-2005, 06:12 PM #2Registered User
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Umm, to answer your question.
MMA is the best mma style. Find a gym that teaches that and youll have the best MMA style.
The whole point of MMA is not to be one seperate style.
MIXED martial arts...
A mix has to be more than one.
Although if you are looking for just the one style, (dont see why you would limit yourself) you could go with Sambo, or Vale Tudo.
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08-12-2005, 06:16 PM #3Registered User
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Um....it's called "MMA" for a reason, you train in more than one martial art.
IMHO, to be the absolute best fighter one can be, one needs to be experienced in a throwing art (Judo or Sambo), a takedown and leverage art (some form of wrestling), a submission art (BJJ, Jujitsu, submission wrestling), and a striking art (kickboxing, boxing, Muy Thai, Burmese Boxing, et cetera).
The trick is effectively integrating all of these, which only exhaustive practice can do.
But, there are also arts out there that are designed for MMA, and thus, incorporate all the aspects of the game. A few examples would be Militich Fighting Systems, Shootfighting, and Pancrase.
I think it's safe to say that there are no longer any "pure" stylists succeeding in MMA. No single, traditional martial art can effectively train one for MMA."A man does what he must-in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures-and that is the basis of all human morality."
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08-12-2005, 06:18 PM #4Registered User
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Originally Posted by TheCrazyCossack
Just to nitpick, "Vale Tudo" isn't really a style. Generally speaking, "Vale Tudo" fighters train in a combo of BJJ and some sort of kickboxing. Vale Tudo is just another word for MMA."A man does what he must-in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures-and that is the basis of all human morality."
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08-13-2005, 03:04 PM #5Originally Posted by M1911A1
In a way it is a style. Stomping, soccerkicking to the head, elbows to the back, no gloves, headbutts etc originated in Vale Tudo. Its where Wanderlei, Pele, Ninja, Shogun and Cyborg all got started. Most of that stuff isn't allowed now days, but it makes for an exciting fighter.
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08-13-2005, 03:15 PM #6Registered User
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Still, it's more a type of competition or a set of rules than a style.Originally Posted by Chute"A man does what he must-in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures-and that is the basis of all human morality."
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08-13-2005, 03:24 PM #7Perpetually Feeding...
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At this point I don't think it's possible to pare MMA down to styles. Individuals win fights, not kung fu or BJJ or Thai or whatever. MMA athletes are learning to take what they need from every style the come into contact with and discard the rest. I remember the first few UFCs were all about black belts representing their own particular breed of martial arts; now it's about hardcore fighters who are able to adapt and succeed.
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08-13-2005, 03:30 PM #8Registered User
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Originally Posted by semiotik
Well said."A man does what he must-in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers and pressures-and that is the basis of all human morality."
-John F. Kennedy
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08-13-2005, 04:29 PM #9Registered User
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Alot of fighters specialize though, so as it was said, you need everything, but I feel its important to be good at everying, and brilliant at one thing.
You'll notice when fighters get introduced what their specalties are, it even says so on their Bios on the UFC website.
Randy Couture is wrestling. (although hes obviously more than a wrestler, thats what hes amazing at)
Matt Hughes is also very good at wrestling, (not completely sure if hes named as a wrestler when he comes in)
Chuck Lidell, kickboxing is his main style, sure hes good at wrestling and BJJ, but the only reason he trains in those is so he can get back up and back to kickboxing (striking).
Some people who dont really specialize may be introduced as "submission fighters" or you can even be introduced as using the "miletich fighting system"... hell Tank Abbot was introduced as a streetfighter.
You NEED to be good at everything... but I also feel you need to excel at one thing, for me Id like to think its ground/takedowns, although I dont mind striking, id just rather do it from the side mount lol.
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08-13-2005, 05:10 PM #10Strong-ass Jaw Crew
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Exactly... M19 and I were having a discussion about how effective Judo is, but what it all boils down to is how hard you train, how good you are, and how tough you are. Your "style" is just a part of your larger skill set. But if you were to watch most of these guys fight, you wouldn't be able to pin them down to one particular thing.
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08-13-2005, 05:46 PM #11Registered User
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Ok, while training in MMA will make you able to put up a good defense and kinda know what you're doing on the street, basic MMA strategies and tactics will not help out much on the street.Originally Posted by John Blaze
If you want Reality-Based Self Defense (street-smart fighting), you can still go to a gym near you and train in MMA, because that will give you the basics of throwing a punch or a kick, and taking someone down, but augment it with an RBSD-focused curriculum such as the videos found here:
http://www.senshido.com
Richard Dmitri is simply and unanimously ADORED by folks in the martial arts crowd.
Real fighting, or street fighting involves MUCH more than punching, kicking, clinching, takedowns and submissions... this is where you must delve into the world of the psychological as well as the physical...
added: oh, and you may also want to look into Paul Vunak's rapid assault tactics... has a lot of merit, but may focus too much on wing-chun-type trapping. Use your best judgement, as bruce lee said, absorb what is useful, reject what is useless...Last edited by HatesFat; 08-13-2005 at 05:49 PM.
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08-13-2005, 08:25 PM #12If your talking about real fights (not just sparring on the streets)...Bruce Lee said he wouldn't be doing fancy kicks etc. he'd try to gouge out eyes, kick balls etc. I recon thats the best "street" style, I wouldn't recommend it for MMA though.Originally Posted by John Blaze
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