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Old 08-09-2005, 11:41 AM   #1
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Unhappy male anorexia anyone know of this or have known and helped anyone with this problem

WEll i think my brother has this problem. I never noticed until now he is in the hospital and told the medics that he has been throwing up blood for a month but he doesnt force himself too puke. That was my first clue that he has this problem. He was heavy about a year ago and since then i have have been working out with him and teaching him martial arts and showing him how to workout i guess i never thought he was throwing up to lose all the weight. I guess what people do behind closed doors you will never know. He is 22 and when he was young he was heavy just like me. Now i am lean and mean. I thought i could teach him how to do it properly guess i was wrong. I had noticed that he was getting really skinny not lean i just thought it was his body type. anyway can anybody give me any advice on how to help him now???????
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Old 08-09-2005, 11:43 AM   #2
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Old 08-09-2005, 11:47 AM   #3
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I've never known anyone close that's had it, so I couldn't advise. It probably isn't as easy as just telling him "Hey, it's not healthy. Now here's a diet I've constructed for you, follow this, you'll feel much better!"

Just sit him down and talk with him about it, tell him of the health risks. It could be fatal afterall, that's if it continues. Just try to encourage him to eat a little more, and to eat healthy. Maybe take him to the gym with you, once he starts gaining some muscle I'm sure he'll have a whole different attitude.

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Old 08-09-2005, 11:48 AM   #4
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No such thing as "Male Anorexia" Anorexia is a disease, and people of both genders get it.
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Old 08-09-2005, 11:59 AM   #5
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I enjoy eating way too much to ever get anything like that, on the other hand... I have an addictive personality, cigarettes, alcohol, drugs... Although I have been clean of all my vises for 17 years I have had to turn my addictive behavior towards physical fitness (that was the solution for me personally) . I think an eating disorder would have to be dealt with like an addiction, intervention and a 12 step program type thing.

Hang in there kempo and best of luck to you and your brother.
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:20 PM   #6
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Quote:
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That's the only guy I know of who has had it
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:33 PM   #7
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I could never be anorexic!! I get really really light headed and pissed off and I feel like **** when I don't eat enough food. I could never go without eating. I would dieeeeeee I need my oats!
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Old 08-09-2005, 12:41 PM   #8
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There is some kid in my school who used to be fat, then all of a sudden he was skinny as hell. Definitely not from working out, he's not the type.
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Old 08-09-2005, 03:59 PM   #9
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I'm sorry to hear about your brother. Just be there for him, he needs your support right now. And as posted previously, there's no such thing as "male anorexia" it happens to members of both sexes. However, you can find a lot of information on the web about the disease. Being there is the best way to help him right now. Good luck.
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Old 08-09-2005, 04:22 PM   #10
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serious response, make him like an ultimate gainer and drink it with him, put tons of sugar, carbs, protein etc... and just stay wiv him for like 2 hrs so he won't throw it up. or something along those lines.
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Old 08-09-2005, 04:59 PM   #11
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The truth about anorexia in males and females is often misunderstood, people think that it is attributed mainly to a changing image of beauty portrayed by the media. In reality anorexia nervosa is more likely attributed to other things:

De-sexualizing - i.e. mainly in girls, lose weight and thus sexuality, boobs and bum go, tend to like like a young teenage boy, could be as a result of abuse, or most commonly, a desire to not grow up and mature (i.e. wants to stay a kid).

Body dysmorphia - sees a different image to everyone else, perception of what is fat and thin is skewed. This is surprisingly not present in all cases - a lot know how they look.

Get back at someone/family - commonly after family trauma i.e. a divorce the child will do this as a means to torture the family for breaking apart.

There are a variety of other reasons including pressures set by the media, but the above mentioned causes tend to be the main true ones.
If he is properly anorexic, you need to find the source of the problem only then can you get the solution, furthermore psychiatry is worth as shot. Anorexia is known to be the mental condition most associated with death - i.e. it is extremely hard to treat. Drugs prescribed can help if all else fails, but it is a known fact hospitalization will usually lead to a relapse and in many cases a worse outcome then if no hospitalization had occurred. This is all well documented.

In short try to talk to him, and seek professional help.

http://www.anred.com/toc.html
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http://www.psychcentral.com/disorders/sx2t.htm

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i had it, bulimia and all. it was stupid really because i wasn't big to begin with, either. i was skinny-fat, and after seeing so many pp. here (where I live) with great bodies and all at the beach, and me with a no-muscled 12% bf, i wanted to be ripped. i figured hey i guess to lose fat you have to eat less. so i ate less, and lost muscle along with the fat. and one time i binged, and couldnt hold it down, so i threw it up involuntarily and thought, hey, i could just do this to get skinnier. and so it became a cyle. IT IS ALL SUBCONSCIOUS. i did not realize i was doing exactly what pp. talk about girls with ED's doing.

somehow the thought of me being bulimic never once entered my mind. i never ever thought about bulimia or anorexia once during my time. i think the brain somehow blocks that out to keep itself from dealing with reality: "you have a problem and need to fix it." i had bulimia/anorexia for about 6 months. i went from 155 to under 140 @ 6'0, @ 12% bf believe it or not, which is super skinny, but not at all as bad as it could have become had i continued. now i'm 170 at around 12% bf.

one time during track practice at my school, i was so hungry i half-way passed out sitting on the bleachers. This broke me, and i suddenly realized. i up and said, ok u dumbass ur acting like a little girl. so i just totally forgot about restricting my eating and im back to normal.
i started working out right about 4 months ago, after visiting this site so much and gaining knowledge on deadlifts, squats, pull ups chins etc. this was exactly the day after i quit being bulimic.

i handled it all myself, my problem and all, even after pp. telling me, "u look deathly thin" but they never asked if anything was wrong.

i realized i was seriously starting to waste away during the end of my time being bulimic, but thankfully i realized my problem before i continued on with it.

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Old 08-10-2005, 05:40 AM   #14
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Talking thanks for everyones help

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i had it, bulimia and all. it was stupid really because i wasn't big to begin with, either. i was skinny-fat, and after seeing so many pp. here (where I live) with great bodies and all at the beach, and me with a no-muscled 12% bf, i wanted to be ripped. i figured hey i guess to lose fat you have to eat less. so i ate less, and lost muscle along with the fat. and one time i binged, and couldnt hold it down, so i threw it up involuntarily and thought, hey, i could just do this to get skinnier. and so it became a cyle. IT IS ALL SUBCONSCIOUS. i did not realize i was doing exactly what pp. talk about girls with ED's doing.

somehow the thought of me being bulimic never once entered my mind. i never ever thought about bulimia or anorexia once during my time. i think the brain somehow blocks that out to keep itself from dealing with reality: "you have a problem and need to fix it." i had bulimia/anorexia for about 6 months. i went from 155 to under 140 @ 6'0, @ 12% bf believe it or not, which is super skinny, but not at all as bad as it could have become had i continued. now i'm 170 at around 12% bf.

one time during track practice at my school, i was so hungry i half-way passed out sitting on the bleachers. This broke me, and i suddenly realized. i up and said, ok u dumbass ur acting like a little girl. so i just totally forgot about restricting my eating and im back to normal.
i started working out right about 4 months ago, after visiting this site so much and gaining knowledge on deadlifts, squats, pull ups chins etc. this was exactly the day after i quit being bulimic.

i handled it all myself, my problem and all, even after pp. telling me, "u look deathly thin" but they never asked if anything was wrong.

i realized i was seriously starting to waste away during the end of my time being bulimic, but thankfully i realized my problem before i continued on with it.
In one thread i read that one reason could be divorce. Well I think that might be it. My mom married his dad about 2 years ago. HIs mom and new stepdad live one road above my mom and his dad. Yeah i know sounds confusing. Which could be why he is doing this. He is not a very strong willed person. He has other problems such as depression which he sees a phyc. for on a weekly basis and just othher things i can see in him. He is so weak inside that i really cant see him fixing this problem himself which i s why my mother is going to take him to get evalutaed today. I just keep praying that he gets through this. Anyway thanks everyone for thier input

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