Bodybuilding.com Forums
Old 08-08-2005, 03:45 PM   #1
zectbumo
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Age: 36
Posts: 61
Rep Power: 6
zectbumo is just really nice. (+1000)zectbumo is just really nice. (+1000)zectbumo is just really nice. (+1000)zectbumo is just really nice. (+1000)zectbumo is just really nice. (+1000)zectbumo is just really nice. (+1000)zectbumo is just really nice. (+1000)zectbumo is just really nice. (+1000)zectbumo is just really nice. (+1000)
Cooking with Whey Protein?

Does Whey protein lose it's nutritional value when heated at high temperatures? I have read a few different opinions on this matter but does anyone know for sure?
zectbumo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2005, 04:07 PM   #2
dp13368
100% addicted to winning
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: New York, New York, United States
Posts: 3,231
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 33
Rep Power: 375
dp13368 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)dp13368 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)dp13368 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)dp13368 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)dp13368 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)dp13368 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)dp13368 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)dp13368 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)dp13368 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)dp13368 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)dp13368 has a reputation beyond repute. Best rank possible! (+100000)
Visit dp13368's BodySpace
Quote:
Originally Posted by zectbumo
Does Whey protein lose it's nutritional value when heated at high temperatures? I have read a few different opinions on this matter but does anyone know for sure?
Some people/companies say not to cook whey as it will denature(hence the reasons why most people's protein bars are not baked, they are refridgerated/frozen).

From ON's site: ...excessive heat can reduce or destroy delicate peptides (i.e. microfractions) within a protein. For this reason, it is best to limit the exposure of 100% WHEY Protein to high heat

Others: "Let there be no mistake about it, heat damages protein. Especially whey protein. Heat processing ruptures and reforms protein molecules. It's called denaturing, and it makes digestion and absorption difficult."

But many nutrition experts say that it doesn't affect the protein content:

"even if whey is denatured by heat (a good bet), the worst case scenario is that is less water soluble, so it might take a bit longer to get into the small intestine. But of course, if its in something that you cooked, its probably stuck with other stuff anyway, so it would be slow even if it were soluble. Plus, you probably aren't concerned with 'fast nutrition' with the baked item."


By denaturing whey they mean you are destroying its tertiary structure and hence any microfractions in it. These fractions in whey may have some additional health benefits that will be lost if heated too high. The protein content however WILL NOT CHANGE. From a strictly macronutrient standpoint "denatured" whey is the same(from my understanding).

So to conclude: Denatured whey contains the same aount of protein and amminos. What you are loosing in heating is some of the other possible health benefits associated with whey

The most knowledgeable answered I've received on this subject is this: "Like everyone said, whey should be survive cooking just fine. If it is damaged, then it's really obvious (gets stringy and curdled, or becomes hard as a brick and tasteless in the oven). I've even had success with protein bars in the oven at 450-degrees F, with short cooking times (10-12 minutes). Perhaps the very edges are slightly damaged, but the majority is fine."
__________________
2004 NCAA Men's Soccer Final 4
2005 National #2 Ranking

"Everybody wants to know what I'm on. What am I on? I'm on my bike busting my ass six hours a day. What are you on?" -Lance
dp13368 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2005, 07:35 AM   #3
Show Man
Big Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 821
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 95
Rep Power: 18
Show Man is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)Show Man is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)Show Man is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)Show Man is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)Show Man is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)Show Man is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)Show Man is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)Show Man is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)Show Man is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)Show Man is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)Show Man is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)
Visit Show Man's BodySpace
Quote:
Originally Posted by zectbumo
Does Whey protein lose it's nutritional value when heated at high temperatures? I have read a few different opinions on this matter but does anyone know for sure?
I wouldn't really recommend cooking with whey. I don't do it often, but have in the past, used ON's Any Whey, which is flavourless and is good for cooking. http://www.optimumnutrition.com/anywhey/
Show Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2005, 10:27 AM   #4
misstenacity
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 28
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 0
Rep Power: 0
misstenacity will become famous soon enough. (+50)
Visit misstenacity's BodySpace
Show me the research?

I am very curious about this as well. I'd like to use whey and/or soy (which I do NOT fear for its estrogen-binding properties) to make baked bars. Egg protein is too volatile when baked (makes the whole thing seize up and turn into a hockey puck), and casein isn't a "high enough quality" protein for me.

Can someone point to some real studies that confirm what is stated above in this thread - namely that the protein AMOUNT is not changed and that the possible repercussion is a reduction in "side benefits" from the whey. If so, what are these "side benefits", anyway?

Thank you so much. I am desperate to cook some tasty bars!

Andrea
in Albuquerque
http://tenacity.net
misstenacity is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2005, 10:34 AM   #5
paulclayton
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cali
Age: 46
Posts: 650
Rep Power: 49
paulclayton has a brilliant future. Second best rank! (+40000)paulclayton has a brilliant future. Second best rank! (+40000)paulclayton has a brilliant future. Second best rank! (+40000)paulclayton has a brilliant future. Second best rank! (+40000)paulclayton has a brilliant future. Second best rank! (+40000)paulclayton has a brilliant future. Second best rank! (+40000)paulclayton has a brilliant future. Second best rank! (+40000)paulclayton has a brilliant future. Second best rank! (+40000)paulclayton has a brilliant future. Second best rank! (+40000)paulclayton has a brilliant future. Second best rank! (+40000)paulclayton has a brilliant future. Second best rank! (+40000)
The only thing that I have ever used whey protein in baking is some no bake protein bars that is the only think I have used it for.
paulclayton is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Member Login

Sign in for more FREE features and tools!

Username or
Email Address:
Password:
Remember Me


New to Bodybuilding.com?
Sign Up Now It's FREE!




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:13 AM. Archive