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    Art's Postcycle Treatment Log

    Sup guys, I had to end up cutting my Ergomax LMG cycle short after only 19 days due to extreme bloating. It was just totally affecting the way I looked, and I felt it wasn't worth it, so I ended it. I had told Robboe I would keep a log for my ActivaTe, and with this being my first, I will do the best I can with it. I realize the retail verison of ActivaTE will be made available in the next couple of weeks, so many of you may not be all that intrested in this beta version. Also, I'll be moving back to college at the end of the week, so I'll do my best to keep you guys updated with my PCT. That is, if anyone's even intrested to begin with.lol Anyway, I put on 8 pounds in the 19 days, and now that the bloating has subsided a good bit, I feel like that they are pretty much 8 clean pounds, but only time will tell.

    Current Stats- I'm 5' 9", 178 pounds at around 16-17% bodyfat. I used to be 215 pounds at well over 36% b.f., so I've come a hell of a long way. What can I say, I've been blessed with horrible genetics. My initial goal on the cycle was to get to 185 pounds, but now, I'm looking to get to 180 pounds by the end of PCT. Edit: (I am looking to get up to 180; however, I also want to point out that I want to drop 2-3% in bodyfat in the process. Once I go back to college, we got a building where they take accurate body fat %'s. And I will post pics at the end of the 45 days.)

    PCT Products:
    Rebound XT- 1/2 a bottle that I began taking 4 days ago while I was still on-cycle. I tampered up on the dosage starting with 2 pills a day, and now I'm up to 4 a day. I will finish the bottle of RXT this Friday, and I will then began taking my full bottle of Novedex XT.

    Novedex XT- 4 caps for days 1-4, then 3 caps for days 5-7. Then, I will tamper down to 2 caps for the next two weeks, and finally down to 1 cap for the final week.

    ActivaTe- Full dosing for 45 days.
    Hawthorne Berry- 1.5g a day for 4 weeks.
    Fenugreek-2.44g a day for 4 weeks.
    Z-Force-4 caps before bed.
    Liv. 52-4 caps a day.
    Omega Thunder CEE-8 caps before workout.

    Other Supplements:
    Vitamin C- 2g a day
    Multi- 2 a day.
    Fish Oil- 6 caps a day.
    Sesathin- 1 dose a day.
    Diet- I'll post my Macros on a daily basis. I'm shooting for 3200 cals on workout days, and 2600 cals on non workout days.

    Workout Routine- Sunday (Chest/Triceps), Monday-Cardio, Tuesday-Legs/Shoulders, Wednesday-Off, Thursday-(AM Cardio) Back/Traps/Biceps, Friday-Cardio, Saturday-Repeat Routine

    I work 6-8 sets on my small muscle groups and 12 on the major ones.

    Any input is greatly appreciated, but remember guys, this is my first log, so go easy on me. Edit: (forgot to add the single dosing of Sesathin)
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    Day 2,

    Monday, August 08- Took my Omega CEE this morning, and went and done cardio. 15 mins on the bike, and 16 mins on the treadmill. On the mill, I set the incline on 6.0 and done a interval workout. It was a decent cardio session, as I really hate doing cardio anyway. Thank God for Audioslave, and Chevelle. On a side note, sleep was horrible last night, as it took me almost an hour just to fall asleep, and I kept waking up in the middle of the night. At one point, I woke up, looked at the clock, and it was 5:00 am, so I went back to sleep, only to wake up later on and it was 3:00 am. Very strange. Also, my joints are really starting to ache from the RXT.
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    Joint ache doesn't suprise me. It may be worth dropping down to 3 caps per day if 4 are causing issue.
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    Originally Posted by Robboe
    Joint ache doesn't suprise me. It may be worth dropping down to 3 caps per day if 4 are causing issue.
    Yeah, thanks, I'm definitely considering that.
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    Appreciate it dtrain.
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    Diet,

    Cals-2669
    Fat-81g
    Carbs-271g
    Protein-250g

    Not much happened today. Just went and done some grocery shopping, and began packing some of my things for when I move on Friday. Tomorrow is leg/shoulder day, so I will update after that workout.
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    Day 3,

    Tuesday, Aug. 9-Well, I slept a hell of a lot better last night, as I was really tired from the previous day. I woke up this morning and ate a full meal. I then took my first round of supplements, and an hour and a half later took my Omega CEE. So, I went to the gym and worked out legs/shoulders. I had a pretty good workout, but towards the end of the workout, I really started to wear down mentally, instead of physically. Either way, I went up 5lbs on squats on each of my 3 sets of 15, 12, and 10 reps. I was still at the same weight on all 3 of my sets with the exercises of leg presses, leg curls, and lunges; however, I had to drop a plate on my last 2 sets of leg extensions. I also worked 7 sets for my calves. All my weight pretty much stayed the same for shoulders, but like with the leg extensions, I had to drop some weight on the last set, as I became fatigued. On the Ergomax, there is no such thing as becoming fatigued. I definitely miss that. But like I said, all in all it was a solid workout. As far as the PCT products goes, there is nothing really to report. No increase or decrease in libido, no new acne, as I had a couple of pimples from the Ergo, and no more light headaches, as that was associated with my blood pressure. My bloating has subsided about 70%, so I am definitely pleased with that. I'll post my macros later on tonight.
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    Macros,

    Cals-2803
    Fat-76
    Carbs-310
    Protein-217

    Well, I was going to totally take tomorrow off, but I think I'll do some cardio instead.
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    August 10,

    Day 4- Weight 177 lbs

    Well, I decided to go ahead and weigh myself today, since a lot, but not all of the bloating has subsided. And much to my surprise, I have only lost 1 pound, which obviously, I do realize it is still early into PCT, but nonetheless, I'm still pleased. Acne is beginning to now really break out. I'm starting to break out on my face, back, and chest. It is expected, though. I'll be doing cardio sometime later on today with back/traps/biceps workout to follow tomorrow. Have a good day.
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    Well,

    here are my macros for the day:

    Cals-2965
    Fat-87
    Carbs-319
    Protein-245

    I don't know if it's the Novedex XT, ActivaTe, or a combination of all my PCT supplements kicking in, but today was the first day since ending my Ergomax cycle that I had that "pumped" feeling all day. Seriously, it feels like I am back on the Ergomax. Man, I hope this lasts, because the first 3 days, I felt kinda flat. I believe Cheezefacta had complained of the same thing once he finished up his cycle. Anyway, I'm working out Back/Traps/Biceps tomorrow, and feelin great.
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    Day 5-Back/Traps/Biceps

    Wide Grip Pullups- (1st set, 9 reps) (2nd set, 8 reps)
    Close Grip Pulldowns- (1st/2nd sets, 10 reps) (3rd set, 9 reps)
    One-Arm Dumbbell Rows- (1st set, 10 reps) (2nd/3rd sets, 8 reps)
    Seated Pulley Rows-(1st/2nd sets, 7 reps) (3rd set, 5 reps)

    BB Shrug- (1st set, 10 reps) (2nd set, 8 reps) (3rd set, 7 reps)
    DB Shrug- (All 3 sets, 11 reps)
    Upright Rows (2 sets, 7 reps)

    Hammer Curls- (1st/2nd sets, 9 reps) (3rd set, 7 reps)
    BB Curls- (3 sets, 7 reps)
    Preacher Curl with DB's- (2 sets, 5 reps)

    I supersetted my back with the trap exercises, so that way I would not stay in the gym for 2 hours. Besides from the fatigue I experience in the final sets of some of my exercises, it feels like I haven't even come off the Ergomax. The pumps are still there. Feels great! I have not experienced a major drop in strength or weight thus far. On a side note, I forgot to mention that my recovery time has also decreased. Tuesday was when I done my leg workout, and yesterday I was not even sore, which is why I decided to do cardio yesterday on my off day. Before the Ergomax, I would at least experience some soreness a day or two after my workouts, but so far nothing.
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    Day 6 and 7

    Well, I finally got moved and situated for school, so now I can get back to my normal routine in terms of working out. Anyway, I done cardio those 2 days. On day six, I done 13 mins of indoor track running, and then 10 mins on the bike. Yesterday, I went out for a 2 mile run. My diet was lacking these two days, I didn't get in near as many carbs or fat as I wanted to, however, I didn't cheat or eat any junk food.
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    Day 8

    Chest and Triceps- Today I had a pretty decent chest/tricep workout, as the pumps were still there and feelin good. The negative was, my weight dropped about five pounds on all major exercises, but like I stated in the previous post, my diet was lacking the past two days; however, I have reloaded today. I am still taking all of my supplements and I have tapered down on the Novedex XT from 4 a day, to now 3 a day. Tomorrow is when I tamper down to 2 a day for the next 2 weeks.

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    Flat Dumbbell Bench Press- 3 sets
    Incline Barbell Bench Press- 3 sets
    Incline Dumbbell Bench Press- 3 sets
    Incline Fly-2 sets
    Flat Bench Fly- 2 sets

    Barbell Lying Tricep extension- 3 sets
    Tricep Kickback- 3 sets
    Tricep pulldowns with Rope- 2 sets

    Like I said, the workout felt great, but I lost some strength, so hopefully it was due to my poor diet the past 2 days in terms of lack of calories/carbs/fats.
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    Originally Posted by 40-Yard Dash_2
    Sup guys, I had to end up cutting my Ergomax LMG cycle short after only 19 days due to extreme bloating. It was just totally affecting the way I looked, and I felt it wasn't worth it, so I ended it.
    This is the biggest complaint I have with the E...Max LMG. I feel like a BIG fat fat cow 'cause I'm so bloated all the time! Actually I feel pregnant. That's the best way to describe it. Great gains, great strength, but damn, I swear the bloat is accounting for like 5lbs on the scale!

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    Originally Posted by Biceps
    This is the biggest complaint I have with the E...Max LMG. I feel like a BIG fat fat cow 'cause I'm so bloated all the time! Actually I feel pregnant. That's the best way to describe it. Great gains, great strength, but damn, I swear the bloat is accounting for like 5lbs on the scale!

    How's the bloat now that you've started into your PCT?
    Within like the first 3 days of PCT about 70% of the bloat was gone, and now that I'm on day 9 it is totally gone. I just had my student i.d. made about an hour ago, and just by looking at the pic, I can honestly say it's all gone.lol In all, it took a good week for my face to go back to normal. That is where I definitely bloated the most.
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    Biceps,

    I forgot to ask, how far are you along in your cycle?
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    Day 9

    AM Cardio/Abs- Well, I got up this morning, and for the first time in almost a month, I was sore. My triceps are really sore, but my chest not so much. I ran just under a 7 minute mile on the indoor track, and then hit the treadmill for some incline interval running for 12 minutes. I then worked out upper and lower abs, doing 6 sets for each. Today was also the first day of school and however accurate my pedometer is, it says I walked over 2 miles around campus today. I don't count that as my cardio, though.lol Tomorrow morning is legs/shoulders. Can't wait! Also, I will be weighing in this Saturday morning, so I've got my fingers crossed.
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    Day 10

    AM Workout -Legs/Shoulders

    Squats-Back down 5 lbs, but stayed at same weight for all 3 sets.
    Leg Presses- Same exact weight for all 3 sets of 9, 7, and 5 reps. This I like, because I haven't lost any strength in this exercise.

    Leg Extensions- Same weight for 1st two sets, and had to drop a plate for the final set. Reps were 12, 10, 8

    Leg Curls- This weight was different from the previous gym I had been working out at, so I'm not too sure. 3 sets, reps of 15, 12, and 10.

    Calf Raises- 3 sets for 12 reps each
    Calf Raises off a box- 3 sets for 8 reps each. These were done on a Smith Machine. I don't believe that is the proper title for the exercise, but oh well.

    Barbell Military Presses- 2 sets. 1st set, 9 reps. 2nd set, 8 reps. The weight has pretty much been constant with this exercise.

    Dumbbell Shoulder Press- I actually had to go down five pounds on the dumbbells with this exercise. 2 sets, 9 reps each.

    Lateral Raises- Same freakin weight as always. I can't go up five pounds, because I have to swing to get the weight up, so what's the point in that. 3 sets, 10 reps each.

    Front Raises- Same weight. Sets 1 and 2, 10 reps. 3rd set, 9 reps.

    Well, overall, I guess the workout went well; although, I really didn't feel it today. I'm still gettin use to working out at 6:30 am, which I was not use to, but its coming along. I was thinking of doing some cardio later on tonight around 8:30 or so, but I'm still undecided. Anyway, I will definitely do cardio tomorrow morning.
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    I forgot to ask, how far are you along in your cycle?
    I'm exactly 4 weeks into it, running E...Max LMG at 20 mg and Max LMG at 75 mg. More than likely I'll go for another 2 weeks and then jump into my PCT using Ultra Hotter and ZMA. Results have been insane so far to say the least, and I'll type up a detailed summary log for everyone when I'm through!
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    Originally Posted by Biceps
    I'm exactly 4 weeks into it, running E...Max LMG at 20 mg and Max LMG at 75 mg. More than likely I'll go for another 2 weeks and then jump into my PCT using Ultra Hotter and ZMA. Results have been insane so far to say the least, and I'll type up a detailed summary log for everyone when I'm through!
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    Day 11 and 12

    Yesterday, all I done was some AM cardio. I ran a mile and a half on the indoor track, and then hit up the treadmill for interval incline running. I ran for 13 minutes on the treadmill.

    Today was just an off day for me, as I really needed it, but tomorrow will be what I like to call a "two a day." I will be doing AM cardio along with abs, and then in the evening its back/traps/biceps. Should be very fun. Thus far my libido has remained constant, which is very good, and aside from a little facial acne and even more body acne, PCT is going pretty well so far. But I have been getting a few pimples on my back, arms, chests, and even one on my neck. It's not so bad, though.
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    Day 13

    AM Cardio- Completed the mile run in 6:52. I then hopped on the Elliptical trainer for the first time ever for a cardio session of 15 mins. Once again, I was drenched in sweat. For some reason, ever since the Ergomax cycle, I have been sweating like a fat hog. Today when I worked out Back/Traps/Biceps, after my workout it looked as though I had done a cardio session.

    Back/Traps/Biceps
    One-arm Dumbbell Rows- I actually went up 5 pounds in this exercise. (All 3 sets, 9 reps)

    Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns- (3 sets, 12 reps)
    Bent Over Barbell Rows- (1st and 2nd sets, 9 reps. 3rd set, 8 reps)
    Seated Pulley Row- (2 sets, 8 reps)

    DB Shrug- (3 sets, 10 reps)
    BB Shrug- (1st and 2nd sets, 9 reps. (3rd set, 8 reps)

    BB Curl- (1st set, 9 reps) (2nd set, 8 reps) (3rd set, 7 reps)
    Hammer Curl- (1st set, 7 reps) (2nd set, 7 reps, but I had to drop down 5 lbs on the DB's) (3rd set, 6 reps)

    The pumps were incredible during this workout, as I felt well rested and great. My strength has remained constant almost 2 weeks into PCT, which definitely pleases me; however, I tend to really wear down towards the end of the workouts, but that is expected as I'm obviously not on the Ergomax anymore. Tomorrow is Chest/Triceps, so I'm really looking forward to that.
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    Day 14

    Wow, 2 weeks of PCT officially completed! Anyway, this morning was cardio, and this evening I worked out Chest/Triceps.

    AM Cardio- I ran 1 mile on the treadmill to sort of warmup, and then I did 13 mins of incline interval running, except this time, I upped the intensity on each interval from what I usually do. I have never been a big runner. In fact, I've always hated cardio, in less it involved playing basketball or football, but ever since I started PCT, I've sort of got into a cardio kick, but I have definitely built up my stamina in this department.

    Evening Workout- Chest/Triceps

    BB Flat Bench Press- (2 sets, 5 reps) I've gone done 5 lbs in this exercise since coming off cycle, so considering how horrible my diet was this past week in terms of lack of carbs and fat, I'm not disappointed.

    DB Flat Bench- (2 sets, 5 reps) I've lost 2 reps on this exercise with this weight.

    Incline BB Press- (2 sets, 5 reps) Once again, I've also gone down 5 lbs, and my partner had to help me get the 5th rep on both sets.

    DB Incline Press- (2 sets, 5 reps) Well, my stamina really goes to **** right about now, so I had to go 5 lbs less on the DB's than when I was on cycle; however, I feel if I had started with this exercise, then I could have used my regular 70 lbs DB's.

    Flat Bench Fly's- (2 sets, 8 reps) Not a problem, and I didn't lose any strength.

    Incline Bench Fly's- (2 sets, 7 reps) Once again, no strength loss.

    Tricep Rope Pulldown- (3 sets, 10 reps)
    Tricep DB Kickbacks- (2 sets, 12 reps)
    Straightbar Standing Tricep Extensions- (3 sets, 9 reps)

    The pumps are still great, but the muscle fullness has definitely gone down. On a side note, I just started taking my 2X a day doses of Sesathin, as I had left it back at my old house, so I will continue that till the bottle is finished. It should last like 3 weeks or so. Tomorrow morning I am working out legs/shoulder, and then I will definitely take Monday and Tuesday off from weightlifting, and most likely Wednesday. We'll see, though.
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    Day 15- Well, I didn't post yesterday, because it was my mother's birthday, so I was busy with family; however, of course, I did manage to get the legs/shoulders workout in. Also, yesterday I finished my first bottle of ActivaTe. I would like to thank Robboe and the DS crew for putting an extra cap in my beta bottle.lol So far ActivaTe has been a very solid product, and I look forward to the next 30 days of it. Well, I got 2 huge pimples on my back, and a couple of small ones on my chest. The face has been pretty clear, with the exception of one or two, here and there. My mood throughout has been good. No aggression whatsoever.


    Squats- (3 sets, 9 reps) I went a little heavier today with these as opposed to the last leg workout.

    Leg Press- (1st set, 9 reps) (2nd set, 7 reps) (3rd set, 5 reps) I increased the weight on each set. I'm still around the same strength as I was on cycle.

    Leg Extension- (1st and 2nd sets, 11 reps) (3rd set, 9 reps) Well, I stayed with the same weight on all 3 sets, but by now I'm really starting to fatigue, which is why I fell off 2 reps on the last set.

    Leg Curl- (1st set, 15 reps) (2nd set, 13 reps) (3rd set, 10 reps) I increased the weight on each set. Still in the same strength range.

    Stiff-Legged Deadlifts with DB's- (2 sets, 12 reps)

    Single leg calf raises with body weight- (1st and 2nd sets, 18 reps) (3rd set, 17 reps) (4th set, 15 reps)

    Weighted calf raises- (3 sets, 10 reps)

    DB Shoulder Press- (5 sets, 5 reps) Hit all of em! Still at the same weight, which pleases me.

    Standing Lateral Raises- (1st and 2nd sets, 15 reps) (3rd set, 13 reps) I worked with the same weight on all 3 sets. I just fell off 2 reps on the last set.

    Bent Over Front Raises- (3 sets, 8 reps)

    Overall, I thought it was a pretty productive workout. Monday is cardio.
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    Day 16

    Earlier this morning was just a good ole cardio routine. Done a little over 23 mins of cardio and was feeling really great. Tomorrow in jogging class I believe we are going to be timed in the mile run, so I'll see what I can spit out. I'm guessing somewhere in the 6:40-6:50 range, which isn't all that impressive, but I'm working on it. We'll see, though. I'm out, and have a nice day!

    Edit: I forgot to mention that I left my damn Sesathin back at home, again, so for the next 2 weeks, I'll be off the Sesathin. I'm an idiot.
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    Day 17

    Well, just got back from jogging class, and we did not run the timed mile today. Instead, it is this Thursday, so I look forward to it. Anyway, in class today, I ran for about 14 mins non-stop around the indoor track at a pretty good pace. I then toned it down and just kept a slow jogging pace for around the next 5 mins or so. We then proceed to a 4 min cool down with just some walking. I will probably go ahead and knock out Back/Traps/Biceps tomorrow morning, since I will be doing that mile run on Thurs. Yesterday afternoon and into the evening, I had a terrible headache, which turned into a light fever of 100.3, so I felt pretty ****ty yesterday, but today I feel just fine. Just thought I would share that.
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    Day 18

    I decided to take today off. I can use the extra glycogen for tomorrow morning's run. I'll post my mile time tomorrow after class.

    Edit: Starting today, I am going to increase my ActivaTe dosage to 30 caps a day, as opposed to the 20 a day I had been taking the first 17 days of PCT.
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