DMT only supplement

[raymondh]

Who here would be a DMT (new pheromone) only supplement if it came out?

[raymondh]

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[freakie]

Where the hell have you been? There is already one available.

[raymondh]

Where the hell have you been? There is already one available.

pure DMT product. Such as M1t, just DMT in capsules.

[Audioslave]

Who here would be a DMT (new pheromone) only supplement if it came out?

I may buy it, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be it.

[raymondh]

I may buy it, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be it.

excuse me lol, D-M-T

[dtrain13]

Where the hell have you been? There is already one available.

Exactly^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[cheezefacta]

Isnt Phera-Plex just the DMT in a typical 2/3ene ratio MINUS the 3? Wouldnt that make Phera-Plex pretty much what this thread is about?

[NukeDukem]

No one is going to release a bottle with "Desoxymethyltestosterone" on it. It has to be called something, like a lean mass generator with a pherobolix matrix. Even still this stuff is on the verge of getting taken away.

[dtrain13]

Isnt Phera-Plex just the DMT in a typical 2/3ene ratio MINUS the 3? Wouldnt that make Phera-Plex pretty much what this thread is about?

Ergomax (DMT) has a 7:2 ratio of 2-ene/3-ene and Phera-plex has only the 2-ene. Which is the more powerfull of the two.

[MMuscle21]

Yeah

Phera-Plex = Pure DMT. I bet it wont last long and gets banned.

[cheezefacta]

Ergomax (DMT) has a 7:2 ratio of 2-ene/3-ene and Phera-plex has only the 2-ene. Which is the more powerfull of the two.

Yea, and the 3-ene is pretty much worthless right? I always thought it was basically added into the ratio because 2-ene by itself looks to be extremely androgenetic. So would Phera-plex be what this poster is looking for?

[dtrain13]

Yea, and the 3-ene is pretty much worthless right? I always thought it was basically added into the ratio because 2-ene by itself looks to be extremely androgenetic. So would Phera-plex be what this poster is looking for?

Yes on all accounts.

[cheezefacta]

Yes on all accounts.

lol, sweet. Thanks

[RepubCarrier]

dude... ergomax is just DMT with a production waste product. ALR was just BSing so people wouldn't try phera-plex.

EDIT: I don't "know" this for sure, I only know that ALR is not trustworthy at all, and that a correspondence with *******? that was posted somewhere on these boards indicated this to be the case. It was 2-ene, 3-ene (DMT isomers), and the elephant pheromone which has NO effect on the body. This is not a "matrix", it's just DMT.

[raymondh]

what is the purest form of DMT?

isn't it just the original 17a-methyl-2-androstene-17b-ol?

[IronPimper]

what is the purest form of DMT?

isn't it just the original 17a-methyl-2-androstene-17b-ol?

I would need to do slightly more research, but DMT, aka Madol, is the product Ergomax. DMT is, to my knowledge, a combination of 2ene/3ene isomers in a particular ration, 7:2. Phera-plex will contain only the 2ene isomers, which should make it more powerful. However, the elimination of the 3ene isomers will mean that it is NOT DMT. I am not absolutely certain, I am sure PA would know for sure.

[factotum]

dude... ergomax is just DMT with a production waste product. ALR was just BSing so people wouldn't try phera-plex.

EDIT: I don't "know" this for sure, I only know that ALR is not trustworthy at all, and that a correspondence with *******? that was posted somewhere on these boards indicated this to be the case. It was 2-ene, 3-ene (DMT isomers), and the elephant pheromone which has NO effect on the body. This is not a "matrix", it's just DMT.

I think the elephant pheromone actually does have some effect on the body. It's just that it has no oral bioavailability so they added the 17alpha methylation to make it orally bioavailable. And then there's elephant max which has a thp ether instead of 17alpha methyl to reduce liver toxicity. I agree though with everything else you said, **** is really shady.

[cheezefacta]

dude... ergomax is just DMT with a production waste product. ALR was just BSing so people wouldn't try phera-plex.

EDIT: I don't "know" this for sure, I only know that ALR is not trustworthy at all, and that a correspondence with *******? that was posted somewhere on these boards indicated this to be the case. It was 2-ene, 3-ene (DMT isomers), and the elephant pheromone which has NO effect on the body. This is not a "matrix", it's just DMT.

whoa whoa whoa...someone stating Rea is not trustworthy? Ive never seen that before haha

[RepubCarrier]

I think the elephant pheromone actually does have some effect on the body. It's just that it has no oral bioavailability so they added the 17alpha methylation to make it orally bioavailable. And then there's elephant max which has a thp ether instead of 17alpha methyl to reduce liver toxicity. I agree though with everything else you said, **** is really shady.

dude, elephant pheromone + 17AA = DMT!

[cheezefacta]

So to sum this up...this thread maker should get Pheraplex...because if anything, it can only be STRONGER.

[cheezefacta]

Wait, and not to drag this along but didnt PA say that 2ene/3ene didnt HAVE to be DMT? I remember him saying that it could test negative for DMT but still have some activity with just the 2ene/3ene alone?

[dtrain13]

Wait, and not to drag this along but didnt PA say that 2ene/3ene didnt HAVE to be DMT? I remember him saying that it could test negative for DMT but still have some activity with just the 2ene/3ene alone?

Yes he did. I believe it is in one of these threads on E...max or maybe it was on his board.

[RepubCarrier]

Wait, and not to drag this along but didnt PA say that 2ene/3ene didnt HAVE to be DMT? I remember him saying that it could test negative for DMT but still have some activity with just the 2ene/3ene alone?

I don't think he said that, I think somebody misquoted him. I could be wrong... (probably not though)

EDIT: ok... http://www.chm.davidson.edu/student/...r/page%207.htm

methylated 2-ene and 3-ene = DMT. non-methyl 2-ene and 3-ene = elephant pheromone, completely useless to the body (no oral bioavailability).

[dtrain13]

I don't think he said that, I think somebody misquoted him. I could be wrong... (probably not though)

No he did say it. I will try to find the thread.
http://musclegurus.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93
First page.

[dtrain13]

No he did say it. I will try to find the thread.
http://musclegurus.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93
First page.

He also states that the 3-ene isomers are nothing more than contaminents. So to me this would signify that a pure 2-ene product(Phera-Plex)would be superior.

[IronPimper]

DMT = 17a-methyl-2-androstene-17b-ol
- this is the methylated version of the elephant pheremone 2ene/3ene combination in the ration of 7:2

Pa did say that a product could have some 2ene/3ene isomers, but not be DMT. This could occur if say the product had a smaller amount of 2ene isomers and the same or more 3ene isomers, i think. So if the ratio was 4:3, then this would have some activity, but not nearly as strong because...

2ene is the stronger isomer. Thus, pher-plex will not be dmt, but it does have the potential to be stronger. Though not necessarily. Since the 3ene isomers are simply contaminents, it will simply depend how many 2ene isomers are present in phera-plex. The more there are, the stronger the steroid.

[dtrain13]

DMT = 17a-methyl-2-androstene-17b-ol
- this is the methylated version of the elephant pheremone 2ene/3ene combination in the ration of 7:2

Pa did say that a product could have some 2ene/3ene isomers, but not be DMT. This could occur if say the product had a smaller amount of 2ene isomers and the same or more 3ene isomers, i think. So if the ratio was 4:3, then this would have some activity, but not nearly as strong because...

2ene is the stronger isomer. Thus, pher-plex will not be dmt, but it does have the potential to be stronger. Though not necessarily. Since the 3ene isomers are simply contaminents, it will simply depend how many 2ene isomers are present in phera-plex. The more there are, the stronger the steroid.

Mg for Mg it is stronger. Both contain 10mg of their respective compound so I would think it will be more potent. But feedback will determine this.

[thanatopsis]

I don't see how anything could do much more than Ergomax already does. People with 20+ pound gains in a month, it just seems like it would be damn near impossible to gain more than that. My totally unfounded theory is that people will probably just have to take less Phera-Plex to see the same results, but I doubt it'll actually produce more results.

I will be impressed if it somehow DOES produce even greater results than Ergomax. It certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings and I'd probably buy some to add to my growing collection.

[cheezefacta]

I don't see how anything could do much more than Ergomax already does. People with 20+ pound gains in a month, it just seems like it would be damn near impossible to gain more than that. My totally unfounded theory is that people will probably just have to take less Phera-Plex to see the same results, but I doubt it'll actually produce more results.

I will be impressed if it somehow DOES produce even greater results than Ergomax. It certainly wouldn't hurt my feelings and I'd probably buy some to add to my growing collection.

All this phera-plex, ergomax, etc etc talk is actually boring me with the announcement by P to tha izzAy. Its like a little kid waiting to see what santa is bringing.