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    When did Kane start going downhill?

    does anyone remeber when Kane was someone who was feared in the WWF/WWE?

    by that i mean someone who when put into WWE title matches would actually be considered a possible winner rather than just making up the numbers like he does once a year in his annual title shots.

    i didnt watch WWF back in 98 when he won it but what happened after austain took the title back from him- did he just fade into the backround or what?
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    I don't know wHHHen kane started to go downhill.
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    Wow, strong 1st reply.

    When he lost the mask.
    That simple.
    Without the mask, people could see his face and psychologically emphasize with him, which lead to the WWE using him as a mid card face, which further killed his character as he became less a monster and more just some big dude.

    With the mask he could have the hell beat out of him one weak and wouldn't have to sell an inury the next, he was unstoppable, and you never actually knew if he was beaten, so could do the kick out and superman routine.
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    Originally Posted by AusPower View Post
    When he lost the mask.
    That simple.
    Without the mask, people could see his face and psychologically emphasize with him, which lead to the WWE using him as a mid card face, which further killed his character as he became less a monster and more just some big dude.

    With the mask he could have the hell beat out of him one weak and wouldn't have to sell an inury the next, he was unstoppable, and you never actually knew if he was beaten, so could do the kick out and superman routine.
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    I think another reason is the massive ammount of 'accidental' looses Kain got, even thought wwe tried to show what he is loosing not because he is weaker, but because his opponent cheated, we just got used to him loosing, we dont seem him as a powerhouse anymore, just a simple guy..
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    Kane went down hill after they changed his attire and revealed that 75% of his body wasnt burnt. Then he started to talk and revealed that he was able to speak fine and was just a normal guy in a mask. The tag team with RVD didnt help. When he was unmasked, any mystery left of the kane character was killed. his head was obviously shaved to make his hairline look like it was receeding and i think he looks quite foolish these days. and i dont know why he doesnt work out his legs.
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    Kane needs to go on a diet and hit up some cardio. He's looking like he swallowed a suitcase now a days. lol
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    Originally Posted by StudzMcSexy View Post
    i dont know why he doesnt work out his legs.
    His knees are very bad nowdays. That's also why he stopped using the Tombstone regulary.

    Some will say that any piledriver is banned from everyone but The Undertaker, but Kane is also allowed to do them, he has done them a few times these past years, even on concrete floor. But basically, he can't do them every day anymore.
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    Originally Posted by AusPower View Post
    Wow, strong 1st reply.

    When he lost the mask.
    That simple.
    Without the mask, people could see his face and psychologically emphasize with him, which lead to the WWE using him as a mid card face, which further killed his character as he became less a monster and more just some big dude.

    With the mask he could have the hell beat out of him one weak and wouldn't have to sell an inury the next, he was unstoppable, and you never actually knew if he was beaten, so could do the kick out and superman routine.
    Exactly.
    The mask came off with WWE films in mind...his movie coming a couple years later...
    But he has sucked without the mask.
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    I'd say Kane went downhill before he even lost the mask. Remember when he did the Kane-a-roonie? Yeah, ever since that probably. When he lost the mask, he actually kinda started to be 'good' again for a while but then failed.
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    I think it was when he joined the Corporation and fell in love with Chyna. He wasn't quite the same after that.
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    Talking

    at royal rumble 2001 was the Kane that i like to remember. being able to clean house with ease and then only getting beat by austin who couldnt get the job done himself so resorted to a steal chair after being saved by triple h from Kane and Undertaker elminating him earlier.

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    Originally Posted by StudzMcSexy View Post
    Kane went down hill after they changed his attire and revealed that 75% of his body wasnt burnt. Then he started to talk and revealed that he was able to speak fine and was just a normal guy in a mask. The tag team with RVD didnt help. When he was unmasked, any mystery left of the kane character was killed. his head was obviously shaved to make his hairline look like it was receeding and i think he looks quite foolish these days. and i dont know why he doesnt work out his legs.
    Man the RVD-Kane duo was awesome, that was one of my personal favorite tag teams.

    Downhill when he lost the mask, simple.
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    Originally Posted by Myke3630 View Post
    I think it was when he joined the Corporation and fell in love with Chyna. He wasn't quite the same after that.
    Yup

    And if not then, I'd say somewhere around the time of his tag-team and subsequent Tori storyline with X-Pac.

    It definitely pussified him to a certain extent
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    When they made him the loveable face with Xpac
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    Originally Posted by ArmTheHomeless View Post
    When they made him the loveable face with Xpac
    Nahh, that was in the middle of his peak. He was a monster then. That was sort of a Fraknestien's monster angle.

    I think they fueded later on too, and Kane was back to evil.
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    They have screwed up Kane for awhile. Going over Taker at WM 14 wouldve been huge. Also not showing emotions for Xpac or whatever. Or having a long ass feud with friggin shane mcmahon. There is a thousand things they have screwed up with him.
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    Originally Posted by meathead320 View Post
    Nahh, that was in the middle of his peak. He was a monster then. That was sort of a Fraknestien's monster angle.

    I think they fueded later on too, and Kane was back to evil.
    They did Xpac turned on him and stole his girlfriend Tori who was never that hot to begin with, they were teasing a Kane joining DX angle leading up to it.
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