Mass gain VS strength

[kingsmen911]

wat type of exercise u have to do for both type of training

heavy or light weight

longer or less times between reps and exercise

and much more

pls help

[Shantheman]

theyre the opposite of each other.... 5 reps for strength and a lil bit size, 10 for size and a lil bit of strength go higher for greater endurance

[THe WeapoN]

everyone is different, stick to compound exercises for both strenght and masses, rep range varrys 4-6 mass strength 6-8 but this depends on what works best for you

[RipStone]

If you want a deeper understanding of this topic, then I highly recommend reading this bit by Madcow. Read it a few times if you need to...

Training and Size vs. Strength:

[BillabongVolcom]

Everyone is different. For instance, Ronnie lifts in the 12-15 rep range most of the time for his gains. He goes lower on power lifts liek Squats and Deadlifts. But the majority of his exercises fall into the 3-4x12-15 reps.

[John Prophet]

there is a lot of crossover between the two...so there is no real "cutoff" at 5 or 6 or 7 reps etc.


size=approx 7-15 reps, shorter rest periods, multiple sets

strength=1-6 reps, longer rest periods, lower number of sets


at around 5-6 reps you are getting strength with some size also, then if u want pure strength with no size youd go down to like 1-3 reps and u wont really get much size off of that unless u do a lot of sets.


like I said, there is a lot of crossover...like if u do reps of 7-8 u get size but u still get "some" strength. Obviously u get stronger at THAT rep range but u also get some smaller increases in max strength

size is a little more about exhausting the muscles...strength is more about exposing the muscles to very high tensions. So bodybuilders generally take less rest between sets and do more volume so they can exhaust the muscles etc....powerlifters or strength guys take plenty of rest between sets so they can use max weight for max tension

[Orlando1234977]

Alot of crossover, and alot of Trial & Error. Over time you'll notice different muscles respond to different loads (reps).

For me, 5-6 reps is perfect for strength and size for Triceps, Chest and Hams.
But things like Back, Quads, Shoulders, seems I can never go high enough in reps. (6 won't do it) It's very individual.

[adilrockstar]

Originally Posted by BillabongVolcom

Everyone is different. For instance, Ronnie lifts in the 12-15 rep range most of the time for his gains. He goes lower on power lifts liek Squats and Deadlifts. But the majority of his exercises fall into the 3-4x12-15 reps.

LOL, don't worry about what he does unless you want to start using steroids.

[adilrockstar]

Originally Posted by kingsmen911

wat type of exercise u have to do for both type of training

heavy or light weight

longer or less times between reps and exercise

and much more

pls help

Go heavy all the time. Seriously.

[BOLT.]

Originally Posted by kingsmen911

wat type of exercise u have to do for both type of training

heavy or light weight

longer or less times between reps and exercise

and much more

pls help

For you, a vast increase in strength will mean a vast increase in muscle.

[IBBiggernU]

Hey guys, I'm new to the thread here, but I can't help but post a thought for all you young guys to think about. I know you're trying to get tips to gain mass or strength, but when it comes right down to it, nobody can tell you what is best for you over a computer post. I've been working out for 21 years and I still learn new ways to stimulate growth, add strength, or cut bodyfat. If you're young and haven't been working out for years, stick to the basic exercises and focus on learning proper form for doing them. I listened to too many so-called "experts" when I was young and all I did was build a wealth of useless information and learn to lift with my ego more than my muscles. Now, I'm 34 and although I'm bigger than I've ever been, I've had so many injuries that I can't do nearly the weight on ANY exercise that I could when I was in college. My injuries have taught me that proper form is WAY more important than weight. When people tell you to lift heavy, remember that heavy only means as much weight as YOU can do for a certain number of reps. If you can't do that weight with proper form for those reps, then it is too heavy. Cheating has its place, but only if you're experienced enough to know what that place is. I don't mean to sound like some old fart on the bodybuilding webpage, but I'm too young to be this beat up and I hate to see people make the same mistakes I did. KEEP LIFTING!!

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