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Miami hurricane Workout
Has anyone seen the miami hurricane workout on their website, and if so can soemone reveiw it and tell me if it would be good to do for strength gain because iw ill try to gain mass later on in the year after track season.
Last edited by watchandsee23; 07-31-2005 at 10:10 PM.
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In a word No.
Unless you are a Hurricane
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Aaron
I was looking for a reveiw,you could have a reason not just no dude.
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Originally Posted by watchandsee23
I was looking for a reveiw,you could have a reason not just no dude.
Reasons not to do it:
-Not tailored to you.
-You do not have the physical preperation (most likely) to complete it safely, let alone for it to be positve.
-Massive volume and intensity on a daily basis. Essentially is asking for overtraining in all but the most gifted athletes and/or athletes with some special "assistance" if you catch my drift.
-Some lifts are not safe without superb technique, like that snatch for example.
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Originally Posted by Person
Reasons not to do it:
-Not tailored to you.
-You do not have the physical preperation (most likely) to complete it safely, let alone for it to be positve.
-Massive volume and intensity on a daily basis. Essentially is asking for overtraining in all but the most gifted athletes and/or athletes with some special "assistance" if you catch my drift.
-Some lifts are not safe without superb technique, like that snatch for example.
Agreed,
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Originally Posted by Person
Reasons not to do it:
-Not tailored to you.
-You do not have the physical preperation (most likely) to complete it safely, let alone for it to be positve.
-Massive volume and intensity on a daily basis. Essentially is asking for overtraining in all but the most gifted athletes and/or athletes with some special "assistance" if you catch my drift.
-Some lifts are not safe without superb technique, like that snatch for example.
Bing, bang, boom. Overtraining and form would be your biggest problem, College football players are assisted in the weightroom by professionals who make sure they use perfect form and avoid injury. You and I do not have these kind of benefits. One more thing to add -these players are not all using some basic template posted on the site each workout is catered to position, goals, prior injuries, etc. They are valuable assets to the school and are handled on a case by case basis.
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I know form owuld be the case but I workout with a former coach. And you can customize the workout for you lifts like the 5 reps thing on bechning you can doa certange %age for it.
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what site is that program on? I can't find it on their official site, so I'm guessing it's on a non-official one
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Originally Posted by watchandsee23
I know form owuld be the case but I workout with a former coach. And you can customize the workout for you lifts like the 5 reps thing on bechning you can doa certange %age for it.
You do not have the physical preperation to do it, but continue if you want. It would be better than not working out at all or doing HIT I suppose.
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Originally Posted by cosmo34
what site is that program on? I can't find it on their official site, so I'm guessing it's on a non-official one
Anyone?
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what is your trainig background?
numerous factors go into determining whether a program is good or not for an individual
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i go to university of miami. the gym for the student population only has two squat racks
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This is based on what I have read; I don't have any first hand knowledge.
The miami strength coach is regarded as one of the best in the business. There has to be reason all those ex-canes go back to train in the off-season.
I have read that the coach believes in doing his conditioning or running before weights. The reason; he wants his players strong in the 4th qtr after running for the previous three. Other then that, basics and olympic movements. Don't make it more complicated then what it is.
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Running first is much smarter than lifting first. If you want to develop speed, that is what you do, unless you are taking a long break inbetween. Virtually every successful sprint program does that.
I doubt that workout is what the Hurricanes actually do and I doubt even more that you could use that program successfully.
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I have heard otherwise, and have done otherwise. I read a book on the Nebraska weighlifting program and they did a test on people just doing leg exercises and no running and the dropped their 40 times. I questioned it, until I started doing squats and stuff like a mofo. I had just got off a knee injury and the best I could muster was a 7.4 60, after a month of squat and leg work I was running 7.0's at a D1 showcase.
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Originally Posted by cosmo34
I have heard otherwise, and have done otherwise. I read a book on the Nebraska weighlifting program and they did a test on people just doing leg exercises and no running and the dropped their 40 times. I questioned it, until I started doing squats and stuff like a mofo. I had just got off a knee injury and the best I could muster was a 7.4 60, after a month of squat and leg work I was running 7.0's at a D1 showcase.
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Where is the husker proram at let me see?
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Originally Posted by cosmo34
I have heard otherwise, and have done otherwise. I read a book on the Nebraska weighlifting program and they did a test on people just doing leg exercises and no running and the dropped their 40 times. I questioned it, until I started doing squats and stuff like a mofo. I had just got off a knee injury and the best I could muster was a 7.4 60, after a month of squat and leg work I was running 7.0's at a D1 showcase.
If you are talking 60 yards, that is not a time I would be bragging about unless you are a big lineman. For 60m, that should be the average of a decent highschool skill player. You can squat after you run, it isn't a brand new idea or anything.
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Originally Posted by cosmo34
I have heard otherwise, and have done otherwise. I read a book on the Nebraska weighlifting program and they did a test on people just doing leg exercises and no running and the dropped their 40 times. I questioned it, until I started doing squats and stuff like a mofo. I had just got off a knee injury and the best I could muster was a 7.4 60, after a month of squat and leg work I was running 7.0's at a D1 showcase.
Also, how can you say they would not have improved if they ran and did weights instead of just doing weights?
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i read that the canes go through a very tough offseason workout. that included lifting for about an hour with very little rest between sets. then doing some form or aerobic activity (they specifically said that they play basketball for cardio after their weight work). from what they described it's pretty intense.
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Originally Posted by Person
Also, how can you say they would not have improved if they ran and did weights instead of just doing weights?
Because I had been running.
And by the way, 7.0 is pretty decent for a 1B/OF. But I wasn't braggin about that, if you really want me to brag, I hit a high 6.8 at an earlier(pre knee injury) showcase. My point was that you don't need to run a lot to run faster
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Originally Posted by cosmo34
Because I had been running.
And by the way, 7.0 is pretty decent for a 1B/OF. But I wasn't braggin about that, if you really want me to brag, I hit a high 6.8 at an earlier(pre knee injury) showcase. My point was that you don't need to run a lot to run faster
You probably weren't running/training the right way though, so that's a moot point. If all you needed to do to get faster is lift weights, sprinters wouldn't be the fastest guys in the world!
7.0h 60yd translates to about a 7.7FAT 60m at the fastest (most likely 7.9). That is not very good unless you're a big guy (I'd say well over 250lbs).
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Almost every D1 baseball player runs between a 6.4-6.8 and I have hit 6.8 and am currently sitting around a 7.0 in my current state. So because I'm .2 off of my best shape, I'm terrible and as slow as a lineman? Stop talking.
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Originally Posted by cosmo34
Almost every D1 baseball player runs between a 6.4-6.8 and I have hit 6.8 and am currently sitting around a 7.0 in my current state. So because I'm .2 off of my best shape, I'm terrible and as slow as a lineman? Stop talking.
Right. If the average D1 baseball player is running at best 6.4h 60 yards, then they are a pretty freakin slow sport as a whole. A 7.0FAT 60m won't win you many or place you too well in a lot of highschool track meets, let alone a 7.0h (which would be the approximate conversion for 6.4-.5). I am just saying, if we are going to reference something as very likely, reference the most successful programs. I gurantee you could have run faster had you sprinted and lifted correctly, especially in a 60y dash where max velocity is a huge component that weights are not too good at improving.
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too bad we're talking about football workout in this thread the miami hurricane one. Not about dumb baseball.
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you know that a 6.4 60 is around the 4.4 range, right? Take FSU's centerfielder, he ran a 6.4 60 and a 4.37 40. So is he slow?
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Originally Posted by cosmo34
you know that a 6.4 60 is around the 4.4 range, right? Take FSU's centerfielder, he ran a 6.4 60 and a 4.37 40. So is he slow?
That is bull****. 6.4 is not in the 4.4 range. Then again, who cares about hand times anyways? I ran a 4.5 my sophomore year multiple times with different testers (coaches from my team, other teams, and friends; hand timed of course). I am not going to try and use a 4.5h as a mark for people to train by when it is hardly impressive on the whole. Baseball players in general are slow and what you have said proves my point. If someone is running a 4.4h, they are most likely running faster than a 6.4h 60 yard dash. Maybe a 6.4 handtimed 60m if they run a 4.4e 40yd, but definitely not a 4.4h to 6.4h. That is simply too slow. Please shut it and move on to something else. 7.0h 60yd lol. Come on now, get real. That is a 4.9-5.0h 40 basically. For a lineman, sweet. Impressive even at the highest level (NFL). For an outfielder, no.
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hey if you wanna believe your ignorance that's you're own deal, but maybe you don't know how fast a 6.4 guy is. Ichiro-one of the fastest players in the game, runs a 6.3 ish. So I'll ask you one more time. Is he slow?
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Originally Posted by cosmo34
hey if you wanna believe your ignorance that's you're own deal, but maybe you don't know how fast a 6.4 guy is. Ichiro-one of the fastest players in the game, runs a 6.3 ish. So I'll ask you one more time. Is he slow?
Then baseball players must be really slow, especially if that is hand timed.
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