Orastan-e

JazzyJersey · 07-30-2005, 08:59 AM

what's the scoop on Gaspari's new Orastan product?

TheHulk156 · 07-30-2005, 09:16 AM

From what I understand, It's just like ALRI's Prostanozol

skillgannon · 07-30-2005, 09:16 AM

Its exactly the same as Alri's prostanozol, ******* and Author developed it together but released it under different names.

JazzyJersey · 07-31-2005, 05:12 PM

thanks guys

JV@Gaspari · 08-02-2005, 10:42 AM

This is a personal email I sent to Rich after taking Orastan-E for only 8 days...

Rich - Orastan-E is amazing! I have been taking 4 Orastan-E per day for
8 days now along with 2 scoops of SuperPump250 about 30 minutes before my training. I just got back from the gym... I trained on an entirely
different level then I have ever experienced! I was like an animal and with
each set, the intensity went up another level. I easily banged out 15
strict reps with the 100lb. dumbells on incline (unfortunately my gym's free
weights only go to 100lb.). My endurance peaked during a superset for bi's
and the pump was unreal. Not only am I convinced this product works, I cant
wait to see what happens after I've been taking it for 3 or 4 weeks.

JV
Perth Amboy, NJ

Note: Orastan-E is non toxic on the liver and can be taken for up to 42 days. It is NOT necessary to take Orastan-E with NovedexXT. Take NovedexXT after a 6 week cycle of Orastan-E to maintain your natural testosterone levels.

ironLifeBG · 08-02-2005, 10:52 AM

yo if you wanna know about look at this thread

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=540896

cakess · 08-07-2005, 08:04 PM

I am taking 2 caps a day and lifting heavy with little gains. I did gain Big on M One T. Are there foods that act as catalysts with this product?

Greg
NJ

Stackin3Methyls · 08-07-2005, 08:09 PM

Why does oreo-stan-E cost more than prostanozol if they are the SAME product?

dtrain13 · 08-07-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stackin3Methyls

Why does oreo-stan-E cost more than prostanozol if they are the SAME product?

Different companies. Also to cakes. You will need to take a lot more than 2 caps to see any gains with this. IMO it is a waste of money. But since you have it I would increase the dose 25mg a week until around 125-150mg and then hold there for a couple of weeks. Also consumption with fat may help with absorption.

laz · 08-07-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dtrain13

Different companies. Also to cakes. You will need to take a lot more than 2 caps to see any gains with this. IMO it is a waste of money. But since you have it I would increase the dose 25mg a week until around 125-150mg and then hold there for a couple of weeks. Also consumption with fat may help with absorption.

You have to remember d-train that even a small amount of a hormone can produce good gains. Some is always better than none. Even 5lbs is a substantial gain.

dtrain13 · 08-07-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by laz

You have to remember d-train that even a small amount of a hormone can produce good gains. Some is always better than none. Even 5lbs is a substantial gain.

Not in this case. Orastan-E is nothing more than oral winny without the methylization but with a thp-either bond. Oral winstol is a very week steroid in and of itself. One must consume at a minimum of 25mg/ed to see any results (this is the low end of dosing BTW). Remove the methyl and it becomes that much weaker.

Stackin3Methyls · 08-07-2005, 08:26 PM

Ok, so let me get this straight. 2 guys worked together, made the same product and one dude is trying to sell it for an extra 8 or so bucks. Am I the only one who is lost?

laz · 08-07-2005, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dtrain13

Not in this case. Orastan-E is nothing more than oral winny without the methylization but with a thp-either bond. Oral winstol is a very week steroid in and of itself. One must consume at a minimum of 25mg/ed to see any results (this is the low end of dosing BTW). Remove the methyl and it becomes that much weaker.

But still enough to produce gains far above what could be done on ones own natty test production.

laz · 08-07-2005, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stackin3Methyls

Ok, so let me get this straight. 2 guys worked together, made the same product and one dude is trying to sell it for an extra 8 or so bucks. Am I the only one who is lost?

It happens all the time. Why do u think some creatine powders are more expensive than others.

dtrain13 · 08-07-2005, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by laz

But still enough to produce gains far above what could be done on ones own natty test production.

We will see. There are a few logs of people running this solo and the results are not just there.

laz · 08-07-2005, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dtrain13

We will see. There are a few logs of people running this solo and the results are not just there.

I have used real winstrol for 2 weeks at 15mgs and gotten the sickest skin ripping pumps ever. with awesome gains despite its mild manner

dtrain13 · 08-07-2005, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by laz

I have used real winstrol for 2 weeks at 15mgs and gotten the sickest skin ripping pumps ever. with awesome gains despite its mild manner

I have used real stanozolol myself at 50mg every other day and it works great. This however is not real winstrol. Over at AM the creators of this product have stated that unless one is around 12% bodyfat they are not going to notice much. Like I said I will wait for the logs to finish before holding final judgment but I have discussed this with others on this board and we are in agreement on this.l

PSKlifter · 08-08-2005, 01:27 PM

gotta agree with dtrain on this one. the biggest advantage of stanzanol is the effects on nitrogen balance. this compound in itself will not get you ripped, this is a common misconception. the whole point is to use while dieting to maintain lbm, and to be able to synthesize large amounts of protein. injected at 50-100 mg ed, this is fairly effective, however oral administration is very weak. you would have to at the very least double the dose. keep in mind, this is the methylated compound. prostanz, the unmethylated, would require a dose of potentially 10fold in order to achieve even similar results. the argument can be made, that any hormone modificaiton is better than your natural state. if this is the argument, then it should come down to a cost benefit analysis. what is it really worth to you?

laz · 08-08-2005, 02:55 PM

But still... like i said, any rise in hormones beyond what your body is naturally producing, is going to promote gains.

NO MERCY · 09-06-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dtrain13

Not in this case. Orastan-E is nothing more than oral winny without the methylization but with a thp-either bond. Oral winstol is a very week steroid in and of itself. One must consume at a minimum of 25mg/ed to see any results (this is the low end of dosing BTW). Remove the methyl and it becomes that much weaker.

I agree. I think the compound may have some potential if mega dosed. However, at this point it is not cost effective.

natrlone · 09-06-2005, 02:04 PM

I started it friday cause the nutrition depot I buy at, when I do buy anything was out of superdrol. Three caps a day. Monday was first workout and I got some big time pumps. Maybe placebo effect, maybe not. Will evaluate after a couple of weeks and see.