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07-29-2005, 11:41 PM
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"Isolation" is stupid.
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I find it interesting that there seems to be a MASSIVE amount of deadlift threads here on this board recently. I haven't seen an exercise discussed this much since the bench press. I wonder why so many people are looking up this exercise lately. Not upset, not at all, the deadlift is my favorite exercise and I truely believe in it, but I'm still curious as to why I don't really see any bench press threads, but a ton of deadlifting threads.
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07-29-2005, 11:48 PM
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Amen! Everyone's on a back kick lately.
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07-29-2005, 11:50 PM
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6 threads on deadlifts just on this page, 7 if you count this one.
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07-30-2005, 12:01 AM
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You know, I've really gotten into deadlifts lately as well. I haven't started a thread about it or anything, but I've been devoting more time to them recently. I did them today and got about 3 reps over my norm on every set. Go deads!
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07-30-2005, 01:42 AM
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Yes I did notice this as well. I'm guessing it's sun spots or something. Or mabey it's just most people are for some reason retuning thier workouts like I seem to have a strange feeling to do lately. /shrug
Oh well I love the exercise so I don't mind it. And at least most of those threads I've read seem to be sincere with little trolling. And that's a good thing lol.
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07-30-2005, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JNo20
I find it interesting that there seems to be a MASSIVE amount of deadlift threads here on this board recently. I haven't seen an exercise discussed this much since the bench press. I wonder why so many people are looking up this exercise lately. Not upset, not at all, the deadlift is my favorite exercise and I truely believe in it, but I'm still curious as to why I don't really see any bench press threads, but a ton of deadlifting threads.
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I've noticed the questions come in waves. One week it seems to be all triceps... another all chest... and so on. There must be a popular magazine out there that's responsible for this?
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07-30-2005, 02:46 AM
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I guess its just getting very popular as a lift. I also think it can be a very intimidating exercise for a lot of people, the risks of injury etc...
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07-30-2005, 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JNo20
I find it interesting that there seems to be a MASSIVE amount of deadlift threads here on this board recently. I haven't seen an exercise discussed this much since the bench press. I wonder why so many people are looking up this exercise lately. Not upset, not at all, the deadlift is my favorite exercise and I truely believe in it, but I'm still curious as to why I don't really see any bench press threads, but a ton of deadlifting threads.
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I think it's great. Anything but the ego driven bench/curl threads. Ugh. But personally, I don't care for regular deadlifts at all.
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07-30-2005, 02:53 AM
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its because deads rock!!!
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maxing out in 3 weeks for deads, i weigh 20lb less than wen i did last time, but im confident that ill lift more
got to love deads?
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07-30-2005, 04:44 AM
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eggy you gay bastard, what are aiming for for your new max, and what was your previous max?
got a leet deadlift?
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07-30-2005, 07:45 AM
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probably because all the ego benchers caught too much flack and since deads are one of the more accepted exercise they decided to convert.
 I would do a romainian, straight leg, or rackpull before a conventional dead.
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07-30-2005, 07:49 AM
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People just decided they want backs,lol,and without much thought its one of the simplest things to do to achieve it.
P.S.-I don't dead,do other things.
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07-30-2005, 08:11 AM
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Deadlifts are sick.
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07-30-2005, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JNo20
I find it interesting that there seems to be a MASSIVE amount of deadlift threads here on this board recently. I haven't seen an exercise discussed this much since the bench press. I wonder why so many people are looking up this exercise lately. Not upset, not at all, the deadlift is my favorite exercise and I truely believe in it, but I'm still curious as to why I don't really see any bench press threads, but a ton of deadlifting threads.
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Hmmm.....
If you look at the nature of the threads, many are people questioning it's overall value.
Like the bench press, the Deadlift is an exercise that people feel "obligated" to do, but don't necessarily give great benefits, so people question it frequently.
Also, like the Bench Press, I personally don't have a high enough benefit/effort ratio to include them in my workout.
But I acknowledge that some people really like them and get benefits out of them.
I think the "do I have to Bench?" question is played out. People now can DB bench and not get ostracized LOL.
Old school guys will tell you, the "deadlift for bodybuilders" thing is a relatively new phenomena. Exercise crazes are frequently tied to the training of the current high level competitors. When it was Yates it was all about Reverse Grip Rows and Reverse Grip Pulldowns.
So "Dead" if you like it, don't if you don't.
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07-30-2005, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by psychojoe
eggy you gay bastard, what are aiming for for your new max, and what was your previous max?
got a leet deadlift?
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deadlifted 165kg @ 75kg bodyweight (365lbs @ 165lbs)
now weigh around 20lbs less, aiming for same weight or above, reckon ill get 175kg *fingers crossed*
got deads?
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07-30-2005, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by eggy_wont_grow
deadlifted 165kg @ 75kg bodyweight (365lbs @ 165lbs)
now weigh around 20lbs less, aiming for same weight or above, reckon ill get 175kg *fingers crossed*
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hardc0re - my next max I hope will be 160 - 165kg @ ~80kg
whats your DL training like?
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07-30-2005, 01:49 PM
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hardc0re - my next max I hope will be 160 - 165kg @ ~80kg
whats your DL training like?
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ME platform deads (from a 4" platform) for 2 weeks, maxing out for 3RM. then 2 weeks box squats (8" platform) maxing out at 3RM. then after that, repeat but with a 2RM. final week (week 9=1RM). for assistance i use jsut 2 exercises that hit the posterior chain, either GM / SLDL, or supersquats and a2g squats (all with low reps, around 4-5 sets, none to failure).
DE days are pretty much the same, but no maxing out, speed work on low box squats and pause squats.
seems to work well for me, break my personal best every other week, sometimes every week.
got a routine that works for eggy?
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07-30-2005, 02:29 PM
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wow 145lb weight and lifting 390+lb dl? wow.
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07-30-2005, 02:30 PM
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Hmmm.....
If you look at the nature of the threads, many are people questioning it's overall value.
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That's the thing. If they feel like they have to do it, or are wondering why they should do it then maybe it's not for them.
Personally I think it's an important link in the growth process. I'm not saying you can't build a great physique without it, or that everyone has to do it, but my take on it is why wouldn't you want to handle lots of weight and give yourself the best chance of reaching your growth potential? It's a great way to build up functional strength and build size all over at the same time.
Anyway, each to his own of course. I'm all for bodybuilders doing whatever they feel is necessary to get the job done and if DLs aren't a part of that then so be it. But come on, handling heavy weights is exciting
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07-30-2005, 02:59 PM
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I'm happy about it. I challenge someone to find a more functional exercise in terms of the REAL WORLD. When was the last time you actually curled something, or even had to squat? (lol) Whenever you pick up something heavy (be it a box, a rock a kid  ), you're basically doing a deadlift---and if you're not, that means you have crappy form and you can tweak your back, even if you're only lifting something that weighs 50 pounds.
I say again...I challenge someone to find an exercise that is more applicable to the real world than the deadlift
I'm waiting
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07-30-2005, 03:51 PM
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wow 145lb weight and lifting 390+lb dl? wow.
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deads are the only lift im actually good at, suck at pretty much everything else :unhappy:
got to get stronger?
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07-30-2005, 03:58 PM
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got a routine that works for me??
Ill probably be DLing twice a week for a while, with front squats on one of them (and then lighter, probably DE deadlifts that day) and the other day heavier DL. Ill try to wave cycle the weights each 3-4 weeks, probably all ME training with 100-125kg (around 70-85%) with occasional naughty forrays into higher weights. Im horny about trying 140 again; Ill probably try to wait until the week before I max for that, to see if its worth maxing or just giving up and killing myself.
it would be cool to get a new max within 2 months, since then im hopefully going to uni and there will be a disruption in my training anyway - so I may aswell make that a planned rest time
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07-30-2005, 05:02 PM
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Deadlifts are an over-rated exercise.
They are a poor in angle of attack on the targeted muscle groups.
When done heavy, they are a recipe for disaster...
Think about it... some of the greatest strength competitors in the world share a common trait... they do big deadlifts and they have lower back problems...
If a person wants to target their lower back strength, there are easier ways to attack that muscle group that doesn't involve poor leverage and several hundred pounds.
Frankly, weighted hyperextenstions not only hit the lower back much more effectively... they are much safer...
Honestly, the only reason why dead lifts are so popular is because people have made it into a glamore exercise because of the amount of weight that can be lifted.
400lb dead lifts sound more impressive than 50lb hyperextenstions...
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07-30-2005, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bababullshat
Deadlifts are an over-rated exercise.
They are a poor in angle of attack on the targeted muscle groups.
When done heavy, they are a recipe for disaster...
Think about it... some of the greatest strength competitors in the world share a common trait... they do big deadlifts and they have lower back problems...
If a person wants to target their lower back strength, there are easier ways to attack that muscle group that doesn't involve poor leverage and several hundred pounds.
Frankly, weighted hyperextenstions not only hit the lower back much more effectively... they are much safer...
Honestly, the only reason why dead lifts are so popular is because people have made it into a glamore exercise because of the amount of weight that can be lifted.
400lb dead lifts sound more impressive than 50lb hyperextenstions...
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A lot of good points, but I disagree with the overall message. I think deadlifts are an excellent exercise for a lot of people, myself included. Honestly, I also believe that the longer your arms are (proportionately) then the more benefit you'll get out of deads, and I've got a big wingspan. So I'm going to take the exact opposite of Defiant's stance, I think that deadlifts are great, but maybe not for everyone.
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07-30-2005, 05:36 PM
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perhaps because people finally realized the back thickness they could add by doing deadlifts.
Think about it, how many threads are there asking for "back help", and what is the general answer- to deadlift. So just maybe.......maybe, people have gotten a clue.
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07-30-2005, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bababullshat
Deadlifts are an over-rated exercise.
They are a poor in angle of attack on the targeted muscle groups.
When done heavy, they are a recipe for disaster...
Think about it... some of the greatest strength competitors in the world share a common trait... they do big deadlifts and they have lower back problems...
If a person wants to target their lower back strength, there are easier ways to attack that muscle group that doesn't involve poor leverage and several hundred pounds.
Frankly, weighted hyperextenstions not only hit the lower back much more effectively... they are much safer...
Honestly, the only reason why dead lifts are so popular is because people have made it into a glamore exercise because of the amount of weight that can be lifted.
400lb dead lifts sound more impressive than 50lb hyperextenstions...
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The deadlift is much more than a lower back exercise, it strengthens the entire body and teaches you to use the body as one piece. When you really work the deadlift and increase your poundages you start to find you can jump higher, you can throw further, you can hit harder, well thats because you're stronger.
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