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    Is it possible to gain muscle while losing/maintaining bf?

    I'm 15 and trying to bulk up, I'm between an ectomorph or mesomorph, I'm skinny But not skinny fat, I'm around 10 percent body fat. I've heard that it's impossible to lose fat while gaining muscle but I've seen lots of transformations where people have gone from being skinny fat to being lean and muscular. Is this really possible? If so how do I achieve this, do I still eat in a caloric surplus?

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    Originally Posted by Stevo756 View Post
    I'm 15 and trying to bulk up, I'm between an ectomorph or mesomorph, I'm skinny But not skinny fat, I'm around 10 percent body fat. I've heard that it's impossible to lose fat while gaining muscle but I've seen lots of transformations where people have gone from being skinny fat to being lean and muscular. Is this really possible? If so how do I achieve this, do I still eat in a caloric surplus?
    No, you cant lose fat while gaining muscle, those transformation videos are a collage over a long time frame where they go from bulking to cutting, if you are a complete beginner (as in less than a couple months) to weight lifting or exercising then maybe just a little, and also if you are on steroids it would be possible, but if you have been working out for a little while now its not possible, but you really shouldn't worry about getting "fat" right now because your 15 and your growing and your at 10% BF, I would just focus on gaining muscle and getting stronger for now and then worry about the little extra fat you have gained later, just eat 300 more calories over you maintenance (make sure to account for how many calories you burn while exercising) and you will gain mostly muscle

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    Originally Posted by Stevo756 View Post
    I'm 15 and trying to bulk up, I'm between an ectomorph or mesomorph, I'm skinny But not skinny fat, I'm around 10 percent body fat. I've heard that it's impossible to lose fat while gaining muscle but I've seen lots of transformations where people have gone from being skinny fat to being lean and muscular. Is this really possible? If so how do I achieve this, do I still eat in a caloric surplus?
    Eat

    Lift

    Dont count calories

    You are not ecto/meso etc

    You are you

    Types do not exist

    Concentrate on your OWN bodys' weaknesses and strengths which, as you age, you will find out what those are


    But to answer your question, yes is it possible especially for beginners etc
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    Originally Posted by Stevo756 View Post
    I'm 15 and trying to bulk up, I'm between an ectomorph or mesomorph, I'm skinny But not skinny fat, I'm around 10 percent body fat. I've heard that it's impossible to lose fat while gaining muscle but I've seen lots of transformations where people have gone from being skinny fat to being lean and muscular. Is this really possible? If so how do I achieve this, do I still eat in a caloric surplus?
    It's possible at the beginning stages. After that , you must make a choice. You can cut fat with little to no muscle loss and you gain gain muscle with little fat gain.
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    Originally Posted by ThoroughSix7 View Post
    No, you cant lose fat while gaining muscle, those transformation videos are a collage over a long time frame where they go from bulking to cutting, if you are a complete beginner (as in less than a couple months) to weight lifting or exercising then maybe just a little, and also if you are on steroids it would be possible, but if you have been working out for a little while now its not possible, but you really shouldn't worry about getting "fat" right now because your 15 and your growing and your at 10% BF, I would just focus on gaining muscle and getting stronger for now and then worry about the little extra fat you have gained later, just eat 300 more calories over you maintenance (make sure to account for how many calories you burn while exercising) and you will gain mostly muscle

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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    You should not be giving advice when you have no idea what you're talking about.
    What, I cant help out someone by answering their question?

    I've been constantly researching this stuff for more than a year and I have a really good understanding, just wanted to help a person that was my age out because I was in the same predicament a year ago too

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    I would say it's possible. Others would say it's not.

    95% of my training history has been in a substantial deficit. Not on purpose, that's just how the cookie crumbled. You need the following ingredients

    A) over fat begginer
    B) muscle memory

    I'm not sure you can build muscle in a deficit unless you have one or both of those 2.
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    You're 15 years and already lean, you need to gain weight in order to maximise growth.

    Eat enough to gain about ~2 pounds per month. If not, eat more.
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    Originally Posted by ThoroughSix7 View Post
    What, I cant help out someone by answering their question?

    I've been constantly researching this stuff for more than a year and I have a really good understanding, just wanted to help a person that was my age out because I was in the same predicament a year ago too
    Help ALL of us. Convince him to keep his dupe posts in the teen forum.
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    Originally Posted by ThoroughSix7 View Post
    No, you cant lose fat while gaining muscle, those transformation videos are a collage over a long time frame where they go from bulking to cutting, if you are a complete beginner (as in less than a couple months) to weight lifting or exercising then maybe just a little, and also if you are on steroids it would be possible, but if you have been working out for a little while now its not possible, but you really shouldn't worry about getting "fat" right now because your 15 and your growing and your at 10% BF, I would just focus on gaining muscle and getting stronger for now and then worry about the little extra fat you have gained later, just eat 300 more calories over you maintenance (make sure to account for how many calories you burn while exercising) and you will gain mostly muscle

    P.S
    Im 16 by the way
    No mention whatsoever of things like protein. Just eat more? That's a potential recipe for bulking, indeed, if you like putting on fat.

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    Originally Posted by ThoroughSix7 View Post
    What, I cant help out someone by answering their question?

    I've been constantly researching this stuff for more than a year and I have a really good understanding, just wanted to help a person that was my age out because I was in the same predicament a year ago too
    If you call incorrect information an answer, then yes, you answered a question (incorrectly). You have no idea what you're talking about, you shouldn't be giving advice.
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    Originally Posted by Stevo756 View Post
    I'm 15 and trying to bulk up, I'm between an ectomorph or mesomorph, I'm skinny But not skinny fat, I'm around 10 percent body fat. I've heard that it's impossible to lose fat while gaining muscle but I've seen lots of transformations where people have gone from being skinny fat to being lean and muscular. Is this really possible? If so how do I achieve this, do I still eat in a caloric surplus?
    At your age eat when hungry as your body will signal you to eat when it's trying to grow. You're lean so don't worry about what little fat you have.
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    Tell me what I said that was incorrect

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    Tell me what I said that was incorrect
    You're in the red at -2000 for a reason.

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    You're in the red at -2000 for a reason.

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    I dont even know what your talking about

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    I dont even know what your talking about
    See those red bars? Those are negative reps. Go read the FAQs if you need more details.

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    Originally Posted by ThoroughSix7 View Post
    Tell me what I said that was incorrect
    This: "No, you cant lose fat while gaining muscle."

    Truth is even intermediates can gain muscle while losing fat. It's (most likely) just not possible to maximise rates of muscle gain in deficit.

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    It's not a binary situation. Muscle gain or loss is happening at different rates all the time. The net effect over time is what matters if you are trying to build a physique.

    A deficit tends to reduce rate of muscle growth. At some point this tips over into muscle loss. However, if you think about a surplus, there is probably some soft upper limit of muscle gain before it all becomes fat gain.

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