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testosterone?
im 19, and 6 foot and about 170... im in decent shape and i lift and run everyday. i cycle creatine every other month and was wanting to find a faster way to gain muscle. i hear about growth hormones and testosterone but then i hear about negative side affects but i dont really know them. what are some side affects that testosterone might have on a 19 year old... i hear things about acne and other stuff but i dont know if its for sure and estrogen. would a product like pronabolin be good.
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11-03-2007, 09:45 PM
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your way to young to consider using test
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11-03-2007, 09:49 PM
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you can try activate xtreme, many people have seen great results
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/activatex.html
or hyperdrol and mass fx stack
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11-03-2007, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by axxem
im 19, and 6 foot and about 170... im in decent shape and i lift and run everyday. i cycle creatine every other month and was wanting to find a faster way to gain muscle. i hear about growth hormones and testosterone but then i hear about negative side affects but i dont really know them. what are some side affects that testosterone might have on a 19 year old... i hear things about acne and other stuff but i dont know if its for sure and estrogen. would a product like pronabolin be good.
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Ummm...NO. End of discussion
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11-03-2007, 10:17 PM
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ok so i guess testosterone is not the way to go... but why is it bad... and what are the side affects or what should i take
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11-03-2007, 10:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by axxem
ok so i guess testosterone is not the way to go... but why is it bad... and what are the side affects or what should i take
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you will most likely mess up you endocrine system
gyno, hair loss, ect.
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11-03-2007, 10:32 PM
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At your age you are prob. still growing. Test will seal ur growth plates and guess what you wont grow any more stuck at ur current height.
Next you want test in your system right? well overload it now and your body may not be able to regulate ur hormone lvls for life!
When you get off your test will be shut down you may not bounce back you will have overload estrogen and you will gain fat/boobs just as fast as that muscle went on!
These are a few side effects of steroid use at your age, not all just a few.
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11-03-2007, 11:00 PM
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the fastest way to gain muscle is patience, it takes time to build muscle, at your age your test should be shooting through the roof, I would make sure you eat plenty of food, especially protein, lift regularly and get plenty of rest and you'll see the results you want.
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11-04-2007, 02:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by axxem
im 19, and 6 foot and about 170... im in decent shape and i lift and run everyday. i cycle creatine every other month and was wanting to find a faster way to gain muscle. i hear about growth hormones and testosterone but then i hear about negative side affects but i dont really know them. what are some side affects that testosterone might have on a 19 year old... i hear things about acne and other stuff but i dont know if its for sure and estrogen. would a product like pronabolin be good.
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At your age, a natural safe test booster such as ActivaTe Xtreme is your best bet if you decide it is right for you. The only "side effect" to consider with ActivaTe Xtreme is a little acne, and that varies from individual to individual.
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11-04-2007, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 40-Yard Dash_2
At your age, a natural safe test booster such as ActivaTe Xtreme is your best bet if you decide it is right for you. The only "side effect" to consider with ActivaTe Xtreme is a little acne, and that varies from individual to individual.
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Dude he's 19 lol. Unless you have a condition in which your body isn't producing enough test as it is I highly doubt he needs anything. This is just another teen looking to use something hormonal when at that age all you need to do is EAT A LOT AND OFTEN AND CONSUME PLENTY OF CALORIES. There is no magic supplement.
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11-04-2007, 06:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ibcritn1
At your age you are prob. still growing. Test will seal ur growth plates and guess what you wont grow any more stuck at ur current height.
Next you want test in your system right? well overload it now and your body may not be able to regulate ur hormone lvls for life!
When you get off your test will be shut down you may not bounce back you will have overload estrogen and you will gain fat/boobs just as fast as that muscle went on!
These are a few side effects of steroid use at your age, not all just a few.
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hey man a test booster is SAFE for him maybe its useless but safe
all the above effects are in relation to ph and ds
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11-04-2007, 07:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Musclefever
hey man a test booster is SAFE for him maybe its useless but safe
all the above effects are in relation to ph and ds
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Yea he asked the effects of Test. Not a test booster which isnt a hormone.
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11-04-2007, 08:03 AM
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Quote:
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Yea he asked the effects of Test. Not a test booster which isnt a hormone.
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ok sry . then you ARE correct
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11-04-2007, 10:06 AM
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are test boosters safe to use without side affects?
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11-04-2007, 10:08 AM
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yes they ae safe , i you want to runa test booster go with activate xtreme  i loved the original activate never tries xtreme tho but search some logs all users loved it
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11-04-2007, 10:24 AM
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how do you take activate and will this ruin anything of me sexual wise, acne, growth?
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11-04-2007, 10:37 AM
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Quote:
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Dude he's 19 lol. Unless you have a condition in which your body isn't producing enough test as it is I highly doubt he needs anything. This is just another teen looking to use something hormonal
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Ignorance and close mindedness
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11-06-2007, 02:03 PM
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Ignorance and close mindedness
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agreed. In one small post that cocky f*cker thinks he really knows whats up but hes only 23......sorry bud but 23 aint much better than 19
and its not just him
All im sayin is, these forums are full of *******s 90% of the time on 90% of the posts, with guys tryin to outsmart each other on the human body and how supplements will work...but none of them are doctors...so as far as i'm concerned theyre just average joes...if youve got some experience lets hear it but if you just study and think you know, shut the fck up unless you got a phd to prove it.
As to my fellow young dudes trying to get some help on these forums about supps, ph's, aas, or anything: GOD BLESS YOU, YOURE WASTING YOUR TIME.
all that will happen is youll get shut down and laughed at.
When i was first introduced to the world of Lifting and supplements, ph's, aas' and everything, i use to come on these forums and try to seek help and get my questions answered by fellow lifters, but all i ever got were those stupid mother****ers giving me answers like "No, end of story,lol"........................what kind of help is that? NONE. Save your "l-o-l's for someone else, fairyboy, cause i dont need it. A few guys gave me some input, but mostly it was **** like that. And i understand, fella's, that you might get sick of young dudes coming on here and asking all these noob questions that they could so easily just look up, but you have to remember, that when you dont know jack **** about something: its kind of ****ing hard to look it up and know what youre looking at...its way more understandable to hear it from your peers and be able to ask specific questions that may not be easy to find the answers to on a search. So before you blow some kid off, think about if they have legit questions or not, cause you might be able to save their body from getting ****ed up. When it was me, i gave up trying to get help on here and made a few mistakes because i didnt really know what i was doing yet. What i found out in weeks of reading, someone could have easily just told me in one post.
sorry for the rant, but i understand why all the other bbuilding forums make fun of bb.com/forum and they all MAKE SURE their forums dont turn out like this one.
Kid if you want some real answers, do as many searches as you can to hopefully answer your questions, but if youre still confused, look at other forums, ask friends, ask guys at the gym, learn some basic bodybuilding definitions and just read read read, study study study study. Youll get no where if you try to seek help here.
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11-06-2007, 02:11 PM
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You don't sound 19. You sound 14.
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11-06-2007, 02:17 PM
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At 170lbs at 6 feet, I'd say you have plenty more growing to do naturally. Eat more food. Honestly. A good diet will do wonders. Make quotas that you wanna meet daily in terms of you diet.
Like me for example, I strive for half a gallon of milk, 1 lb lean beef, 1 can tuna, 1-2 cups fat free cottage cheese, 40g protein from egg whites, and 4 whole eggs a day, with protein shakes in between. This is at the minimum of course.
Stay safe man. You have lots of years ahead, no need to use steroids or growth hormones.
If you want to boost testosterone, I recommned Activate Xtreme.
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Yes
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Originally Posted by chimpilico
At 170lbs at 6 feet, I'd say you have plenty more growing to do naturally. Eat more food. Honestly. A good diet will do wonders. Make quotas that you wanna meet daily in terms of you diet.
Like me for example, I strive for half a gallon of milk, 1 lb lean beef, 1 can tuna, 1-2 cups fat free cottage cheese, 40g protein from egg whites, and 4 whole eggs a day, with protein shakes in between. This is at the minimum of course.
Stay safe man. You have lots of years ahead, no need to use steroids or growth hormones.
If you want to boost testosterone, I recommned Activate Xtreme.
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Good post, even though you are at IU Loosier puke (j/k :-P ). I don't get all these 18 yo kids who weight about 170 lbs showing up here asking about test/aas/ph/etc. Hormones aren't your problem, you have more than you need (unless verified low by a blood test).
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Originally Posted by TAMPORA
agreed. In one small post that cocky f*cker thinks he really knows whats up but hes only 23......sorry bud but 23 aint much better than 19
and its not just him
All im sayin is, these forums are full of *******s 90% of the time on 90% of the posts, with guys tryin to outsmart each other on the human body and how supplements will work...but none of them are doctors...so as far as i'm concerned theyre just average joes...if youve got some experience lets hear it but if you just study and think you know, shut the fck up unless you got a phd to prove it.
As to my fellow young dudes trying to get some help on these forums about supps, ph's, aas, or anything: GOD BLESS YOU, YOURE WASTING YOUR TIME.
all that will happen is youll get shut down and laughed at.
When i was first introduced to the world of Lifting and supplements, ph's, aas' and everything, i use to come on these forums and try to seek help and get my questions answered by fellow lifters, but all i ever got were those stupid mother****ers giving me answers like "No, end of story,lol"........................what kind of help is that? NONE. Save your "l-o-l's for someone else, fairyboy, cause i dont need it. A few guys gave me some input, but mostly it was **** like that. And i understand, fella's, that you might get sick of young dudes coming on here and asking all these noob questions that they could so easily just look up, but you have to remember, that when you dont know jack **** about something: its kind of ****ing hard to look it up and know what youre looking at...its way more understandable to hear it from your peers and be able to ask specific questions that may not be easy to find the answers to on a search. So before you blow some kid off, think about if they have legit questions or not, cause you might be able to save their body from getting ****ed up. When it was me, i gave up trying to get help on here and made a few mistakes because i didnt really know what i was doing yet. What i found out in weeks of reading, someone could have easily just told me in one post.
sorry for the rant, but i understand why all the other bbuilding forums make fun of bb.com/forum and they all MAKE SURE their forums dont turn out like this one.
Kid if you want some real answers, do as many searches as you can to hopefully answer your questions, but if youre still confused, look at other forums, ask friends, ask guys at the gym, learn some basic bodybuilding definitions and just read read read, study study study study. Youll get no where if you try to seek help here.
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Interesting you say that 4 years difference isn't much when in reality it very well could be especially when it comes to the science and physiology of the bodybuilding lifestyle. I loved when you said our advice can't be valid unless we have a PhD to prove it. That's funny considering not many guys on here have a PhD or even a MS and they can give explanations just as well as someone with a prestigious degree. Also coming from a guy who has only 3 posts on this forum doesn't have much room to be talking. I would love to see what your background is in Anatomy & Physiology, Biochemistry and Nutrition. In your little rant you obviously didn't think half of what you said through which can be expected from a noob. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but I speak only the truth.
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You don't sound 19. You sound 14.
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11-06-2007, 02:36 PM
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Good post, even though you are at IU Loosier puke (j/k :-P ).
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Things Ive learned today:
You need a PhD to understand supplements.
19=23
Family doctors>Biochemists on supplements
I think you're pushing the limits of your room temperature IQ.
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Originally Posted by Lax891122
Things Ive learned today:
You need a PhD to understand supplements.
19=23
Family doctors>Biochemists on supplements
I think you're pushing the limits of your room temperature IQ.
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I just speak the truth that's all
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11-06-2007, 02:42 PM
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can you get bitch tits from taking universal mstack?
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11-06-2007, 02:53 PM
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can you get bitch tits from taking universal mstack?
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I've never heard of a case of gyno from Mstak.
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11-06-2007, 07:05 PM
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well about test boosters..... like anmial mstack... are there any side affects... acne, deepening of the voice, or anything like that that testosterone can do?
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11-06-2007, 07:19 PM
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People see things in either black or white, on or off but have little respect for the 'grey' area. Try it once and if it don't work, dont use it any more but be very careful if you continue and be cautious using it. People know drinking, drugs and alcohol are bad but they take them anyway. Give the kid a break, if they want to mess things up it's their own choice but you've been warned. I personally wouldn't take test until much much older even then.
Just my .002 cents.
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i was just wondering about themi have a friend who is about to start taking them... ill look what they do to him first
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