Difference between SOFT fat ( jiggly ) and HARD fat ?

[¡STFU!ˇNˆLIFT!]

As title states what are the actual difference between the two ?
I realize I have a bit of hard fat over all my body over muscles etc ..
BUT there is ONE place where the fat is eww squishy jiggly and nasty soft .
Which is right under my obliques .
I'm wondering is there a way to mobilize that off me quicker / more efficiently than the rest ?
If I could get that area and my lower belly nuked I would be a happy camper .
I'm not saying spot reduction - Im saying what is the difference because I am thinking in my mind that the soft fat is the type ready to mobilize and mozey on out ..
so please do inform me oh wise bb commitee ..

[anonymous123]

I've never experienced this soft/hard fat crap that everyone talks about. They say something about your fat becoming less dense as you're losing it, which makes sense as to why it would appear softer. Still though, I don't remember having any "hard fat" to begin with.

[Lawdog1379]

I am thinking in my mind that the soft fat is the type ready to mobilize and mozey on out ..

Correct.

[¡STFU!ˇNˆLIFT!]

k so it's been ready to be mobilized for 2+ years now ? :-(

[bking10]

first off, not spot reduction. Put in the work and eventually it will come off the belly.

[AlexMR]

I used to have that rockish fat. LOL. Now im like a jello ad. Seriously. All the fat I have is now very soft. It's that about the density somebody mentioned. When the fat is hard is generally when you are having a surplus of calories and the adipose tissue is growing...

[Al Faz]

k so it's been ready to be mobilized for 2+ years now ? :-(

Yeah...its just waiting for you to get into gear.

[justanothagirl]

how can fat be hard? muscles are hard...fat is always jiggly unless its not much fat is it not?

[SpaceForRent]

K from what you describe I think first that fat is fat, it's all the same it's what is underneath that is what your feeling.
Work your obliques if you want them hard.
your fat will appear harder in some places because you have muscle or bone underneath it, whereas your "soft fat" as you call it on the obliques appears soft because... there is nothing underneath it lol
your just pushing straight into your stomach which makes it seem softer then when your pushing into bone or muscle.

my thoughts on your issue.

[Mad_Mike]

how can fat be hard? muscles are hard...fat is always jiggly unless its not much fat is it not?

Fat can certainly be hard if it is densely packed. But loose flab means there's not as much there which is a good thing. As you lose you will find that the area will both become less dense and shrink. When it becomes very flabby the area will just pull in fast as you lose, this is where I am right now with my stomach.

[SK1989]

The fat around my abs is lose and jigly and soft as you say. Good thing because that tells me it's breaking up which means im going to have an easier time disposing of it rather than it being hard.

[justanothagirl]

weird, for me when im getting leaner i get harder, cos the fat-layer becomes thinner or my muscles become more full or w/e.

[Mad_Mike]

weird, for me when im getting leaner i get harder, cos the fat-layer becomes thinner or my muscles become more full or w/e.

Everyone is different, and its all going to depend on how much fat is over the muscle. I'm assuming that at 115 lbs you really don't have a lot of fat there to lose. But when the abs are very well hidden, things often get softer because what's under that fat, is another layer of fat

[zangetsu]

I believe I have the answer for this

Imagine a bag (fat area), and you fill it up with jello (fat) until it gets very full and is stretching the bag (skin), obviously the fat is very condensed in there and TIGHTLY packed.

Once you start losing this fat, the bag will be emptier and there is more room for fat to run around, and it will be less condensed.

Bag when full of fat: hard
Bag when half emptied: Soft and more space

Until your skin goes back or when muscle builds up

(sorry for the retarded example)

[Mr13percent]

I believe I have the answer for this

Imagine a bag (fat area), and you fill it up with jello (fat) until it gets very full and is stretching the bag (skin), obviously the fat is very condensed in there and TIGHTLY packed.

Once you start losing this fat, the bag will be emptier and there is more room for fat to run around, and it will be less condensed.

Bag when full of fat: hard
Bag when half emptied: Soft and more space

Until your skin goes back or when muscle builds up

(sorry for the retarded example)

what happens once you lose the fat there and you have no muscle behind it?....think i may have that problem with my lower stomach

[stark6935]

I think your fat cells are stretched out when you were fat making them harder, and when you lose weight they don't close as fast, so maybe they are kinda flabby, and soft?

[bujj]

i was thinking the same thing. me and my dad both have 44" bellys. we are both the same height though i am 250lbs and my dad is 207lbs.

his belly is perfectly round and hard to the feel. whereas my belly is soft and round and jiggely.

what does this mean? who is actually fatter? is it better to have a big rock hard belly or a soft belly of the same size?

[zangetsu]

what happens once you lose the fat there and you have no muscle behind it?....think i may have that problem with my lower stomach

yeah man the hardest that will go is the lower stomach fat, and then the chest.

They always hang around till the end and never want to leave, damn fat cells.

You just have to keep building the muscle, and hitting the workouts.

I dont think its that you dont have muscle there, its the little "poof" of fat never wants to go.

[¡STFU!ˇNˆLIFT!]

K from what you describe I think first that fat is fat, it's all the same it's what is underneath that is what your feeling.
Work your obliques if you want them hard.
your fat will appear harder in some places because you have muscle or bone underneath it, whereas your "soft fat" as you call it on the obliques appears soft because... there is nothing underneath it lol
your just pushing straight into your stomach which makes it seem softer then when your pushing into bone or muscle.

my thoughts on your issue.

TOTALLY makes sense . Also I think that same as steak fat from the rump of a cow vs beef ribs fat .
A cows rump is VERY muscular and the ribs not at all really ..
Possibly the fat that is made is created differently based on muscle structure and size ..
but yes no muscles underneath obliques ..
I'm so tempted to post up photos just to gross the fitter fellas out .. and myself ..

[Jules Verne]

This certainly happens to me. The fat goes softer in certain areas where it is coming off the fastest (or seemingly the biggest change), then hardens a bit after a while, presumably as that area shrinks.

This happened most recently with my lower back and love handle area. My stomach pretty much stays the same, apart from as I've lost fat there I can feel the remaining fat more because is has more folds as I bend forward.

It's somewhat relative though, because I'm pretty lean (definitely less than 10%). So what i call 'fat areas' don't have that much on them really. But I still get this effect of softening first, before it seems to shrink.

EDIT: some might describe the 'softening' as more 'loosening' or even more jiggly than normal. It certainly can make you actually feel fatter for a while.

[zangetsu]

The fat goes softer in certain areas where it is coming off the fastest (or seemingly the biggest change), then hardens a bit after a while, presumably as that area shrinks.

I still get this effect of softening first, before it seems to shrink.

true dat

I like how you put it, where there is the biggest change = hard/soft movements

[¡STFU!ˇNˆLIFT!]

Well I certainly hope it sheds itself first it is truly the only area that I hate .
Thing is I have lost 10+ pounds in a month - 18 total thus far since starting my diet and don't see a change in that area .. at all ..
thank you everyone for chiming in feel free to add

[Jules Verne]

Well I certainly hope it sheds itself first it is truly the only area that I hate .
Thing is I have lost 10+ pounds in a month - 18 total thus far since starting my diet and don't see a change in that area .. at all ..
thank you everyone for chiming in feel free to add

Well F**K. It takes me 4+ months to lose 10lb (I don't even have 10lb to lose anymore). Of course it's not going to 'harden' in that time frame.

[Sibrek]

Any scientific truth to any of this? Just wondering, as 99% of the stuff in this section is not only bull****, but simply ridiculous.

[justanothagirl]

Any scientific truth to any of this? Just wondering, as 99% of the stuff in this section is not only bull****, but simply ridiculous.

so contribute or GTFO

[SpaceForRent]

so contribute or GTFO

and your contributing so much more how?

and i'm going to post it again since I guess no one wanted to read the first time lol
I think that fat is just that, fat.
how "hard" it is is just a matter of what is underneath it, be that muscle, organs, bones, or just more fat.

Stop worrying about what "type" of fat you have, it's all the same and it all sucks just worry about LOSING it.

[justanothagirl]

and your contributing so much more how?

im talking about the section not this thread since he was bashing this section in the nutrition section like yesterday, and now again. plus i contributed in an earlier post (personal experience).

negged for asking a stupid question.

[SpaceForRent]

so contribute or GTFO

im talking about the section not this thread since he was bashing this section in the nutrition section like yesterday, and now again. plus i contributed in an earlier post (personal experience).

negged for asking a stupid question.

ya i don't know his history, or yours, just going off what I seen.
and who's stupid question were you talking about, the OP's or what? lol

[¡STFU!ˇNˆLIFT!]

Space - they are definately two different types of fat entirely and not due to what's underneath .
As I said one is watery like Jello , the other like the super hard fat on a roast that is thick and tough . Best comparison I can come up with .

[Mad_Mike]

It may be a difference of brown and white/yellowish adipose tissue. You can take two people who are both 300 lbs and one can have a very hard stomach, the other a very soft one. With both individuals its not going to be muscle creating the hardness because its buried pretty deep.