Hi,
I am trying to lose fat, I have about 15% Bf and my main concern is not getting any bigger because I am not very tall and I dont like the very bulky look, im aiming towards the "fit" look. I understand that the best way to lose fat is by combining cardio and weight training, however since i absolutely do NOT wanna get bigger, I was thinging about weightlifting without taking my usual protein shake...Is that a good idea or does that make no sense?
Any help would be greatly appreciated,
Thanks!
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Thread: Weightlifting Without Protein
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07-19-2005, 12:37 PM #1
Weightlifting Without Protein
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07-19-2005, 12:48 PM #2
Bad idea. You need those amino acids regardless if you lift or not. You won't get bigger anyway, to gain proper mass with weight lifting you need a lot more calories than you do for cutting. You might gain a pound here or there, but it is few and far between when cutting unless your almost religious on how much calories you take in.
You need protein, no buts or excuses about it.
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07-19-2005, 01:02 PM #3Originally Posted by Forum Guy
One advice for you, go to the gym, lift as hard as possible, take your protein shake and u will be ok.
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07-19-2005, 01:09 PM #4
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Growth isn't governed by protein consumption, but by caloric intake in general, and then only if you're genetically predisposed to it (i.e. mesomorph) or you start using "gear".
"I'm afraid I'll get too big" is a myth that refuses to die, and should be one of the things you spend the least amount of time worrying about. If it were that simple, the multi-billion dollar supplement industry would never have existed.
C.K.
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07-19-2005, 01:14 PM #5
Yeah, you don't just walk into the gym and start lifting and get big. It takes dedication and proper eating. However, one way to make sure that your not getting any bigger is to not eat enough. You shouldn't cut out protein. Continue to lift, have protein and just do more cardio and shave off a few calories. It sounds to me like you just want to maintain and lost fat.
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07-19-2005, 01:34 PM #6
i have to agree with everything said above. in order to get "too big" you've got to be designed that way, and, even with that, you've got to work like hell to get there. i, personally, am not what anyone would consider a hard gainer, but i've been lifting for more than three years, and i'm no where near "too big".
you've got to continue to lift hard and heavy, and couple that with some pretty intense cardio work to cut that body fat. the two of them, with a respectable diet, which there is no shortage of help with on the boards, will melt it off, and you'll be good to go. good luck.Quit asking for freebies and BUY THE DAMN BOOK!!!
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07-19-2005, 01:35 PM #7
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07-19-2005, 02:51 PM #8
First of all no offense taken and I appreciate the input. Actually....I do agree with what you are saying, I am not completely ignorant in this matter. I do think that my concept of big is not nearly what you must be talking about. Also, since I have started lifting about a year and so ago I have gotten significantly bigger without too much effort, keep in mind that there are different metabolisms out there, like mine which can allow my body to gain 10 pounds in 2 weeks very easely. The problem with people like me is that when I take a protein shake, I feel as if my body cannot proces it entirely and some ands up as fat!
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07-19-2005, 03:02 PM #9
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Originally Posted by Forum Guy
But a protein shake is not 100% protein, unless you're just mixing whey with water -- anything else and you've added carbohydrates to it.
I think that you just need to adjust your caloric intake to your needs and to keep the macronutrient ratios where they seem to work best for nearly all of us, that 40/40/20 spread you see mentioned here often.
C.K.
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07-20-2005, 06:03 AM #10
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07-20-2005, 07:00 AM #11
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07-20-2005, 07:22 AM #12
Please post a picture of a guy that you would like to look like, and a picture of what you currently look like, this will provide us with all the info we need to tell you what to do.
The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice. And because we fail to notice THAT we fail to notice there is little we can do to change until we notice how failing to notice shapes our thoughts and deeds.
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07-20-2005, 08:20 AM #13
You say you want a fit look right?
Well I wouldn't call anybody fit who doesn't lift weights. You will just look skinny and out of shape without strength training.
Also, protein doesn't turn to fat easily, and on a hypocaloric diet you will need a lot of protein just to keep your body from using your muscles as food. It's all about calories in/calories out in the end.
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07-20-2005, 08:42 AM #14
well actually it says on some of the protein powders "DO NOT USE FOR WEIGHT REDUCTION" so you could maybe drop the protein powder and just eat regular protein like egg whites and tuna (just lower your total protein intake as well as calories and increase fiber)
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07-20-2005, 08:48 AM #15
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07-20-2005, 10:30 AM #16
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Originally Posted by Stand Ablaze
Edit: here's a link that briefly mentions it:
http://www.weight-loss-guru.com/rapi...fad-diets.html
C.K.Last edited by stahlhart; 07-20-2005 at 10:43 AM.
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07-20-2005, 12:06 PM #17
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07-20-2005, 01:11 PM #18
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07-20-2005, 01:40 PM #19
Also, when I go to the gym I KILL myself because I know I am burning calories. If I was to eat correctly I can easely put on muscle but that is not my concern right now, so that is why I am asking about the protein shake. simply put, I want my effort to result in weight loss but not necessarily muscle growth. My question is; which is the key ingredient for my fitness goals? Is it changing my workout (less weight, more repetitions, more cardio) or changing my diet (same exercise - consume less calories).....?
Thanks guys!
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07-20-2005, 02:05 PM #20Originally Posted by Forum Guy
How the hell do you think brad pitt got like that? Magic? No he lifts weights and does cardio and eats clean like all the rest of us.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attach...hmentid=216508
there’s me, I wouldn’t say I’m huge by any means. And that’s flexing really hard. When relaxed I would say I appear very similar to that picture, little lower bf%.
Most would describe me as athletic looking. Not big/bulky/muscular or whatever
Now if when I started Feb.1 all I did was lose fat I would look like twig boy. Honestly I’d say your are rather foolish if you think muscle grows on you like weeds.
I lift hard, heavy weight low reps, lots of cardio, very structured nutrition
Don’t kid yourself and think you’ll look good at a low bf without a least some muscle
If you took the current you at 8% bf and a you with 10 lbs more muscle at 8% bf and asked a girl to choose which she’d prefer I would argue every single one would chose the more muscular one. I just think this is silly and felt like arguing, do what you’d like.--LQThe range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice. And because we fail to notice THAT we fail to notice there is little we can do to change until we notice how failing to notice shapes our thoughts and deeds.
The Beginners Guide to FAT loss / LQ Journal:
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07-20-2005, 03:53 PM #21
You need a certain ammount of protein intake for essential amino acids or else your body will break up existing proteins to ensure sufficient essential amino acids.
You could get by without protein supplements, but cutting protein out of your diet is a terrible idea. Keep in mind that protein makes up various structures in your body (not just for muscle bulking) such as hair and skin and cellular functions, and amino acids are needed for protein synthesis (including repair and regeneration of various structures) and other functions. Cutting these out will deliver a pretty harsh blow to your health and create more problems than just being overweight.
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07-21-2005, 06:51 AM #25
Wtf???
Originally Posted by KillazerQuit asking for freebies and BUY THE DAMN BOOK!!!
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