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    How long does muscle recovery take?

    I mean complete muscle recovery, not when it is ready to be trained again..

    Does anybody know this?

    I'm thinking of taking some time off, I've some things to sort out at the moment, and I won't have any time for lifting. So why not start again when completly recovered and fresh,
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    Originally Posted by HolyMoly View Post
    I mean complete muscle recovery, not when it is ready to be trained again..

    Does anybody know this?

    I'm thinking of taking some time off, I've some things to sort out at the moment, and I won't have any time for lifting. So why not start again when completly recovered and fresh,
    It varies.

    That is like asking "how long does a cut take to heal".
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    Originally Posted by Defiant1 View Post
    It varies.

    That is like asking "how long does a cut take to heal".
    Well generally speaking?
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    Originally Posted by HolyMoly View Post
    While generally speaking?
    Honestly, it depends on how much you did, and what kind of condition you are in. A cut is a really good analogy IMO.

    I think after a week you should be good.
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    Originally Posted by Defiant1 View Post
    Honestly, it depends on how much you did, and what kind of condition you are in. A cut is a really good analogy IMO.

    I think after a week you should be good.
    Allright, because I think I read somewhere that it can take allmost a month or even longer before muscles are completely recovered after a very tough workout (think high volume/intensity/failure training).

    I read this a very long time ago on this forum, so it could have been total bs offcourse..
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    I'll tell you this, I do not know anyone who works out only once a month and is huge and cut. I guess the arms are some of the quickest repairing muscle groups and the back (especially as you go lower) takes a long time to recover. The consensus recommendation is 48-72 hours of recovery time.
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    Originally Posted by GrindedDown View Post
    I'll tell you this, I do not know anyone who works out only once a month and is huge and cut. I guess the arms are some of the quickest repairing muscle groups and the back (especially as you go lower) takes a long time to recover. The consensus recommendation is 48-72 hours of recovery time.
    Just want to know how long it takes for full muscle recovery, and CNS recovery (should have add this). CNS recovery can take longer to my understanding..
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    here's a very generic excerpt:

    http://biology.plosjournals.org/perl...l.pbio.0020348

    "Also stating that muscle protein synthesis increases within a few hours after a bout of strenuous exercise and remains elevated for at least 24 hrs returning to normal at after approximately 72 hrs."

    but there are so many variables involved its ridiculous.

    edit: also as a very general rule, CNS recovery takes twice as long.
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    Originally Posted by I dont work at Ballys View Post
    here's a very generic excerpt:

    http://biology.plosjournals.org/perl...l.pbio.0020348

    "Also stating that muscle protein synthesis increases within a few hours after a bout of strenuous exercise and remains elevated for at least 24 hrs returning to normal at after approximately 72 hrs."

    but there are so many variables involved its ridiculous.
    I read a study at hypertrophy-research that mRNA transcription in the muscle is complete after 72 hrs
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    Originally Posted by W8isGR8 View Post
    I read a study at hypertrophy-research that mRNA transcription in the muscle is complete after 72 hrs
    yeah, the only way i can see it taking much longer is if someone is suffering major adrenal fatigue and is starving themself.
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    It depends on your genetics, diet, amount of rest, type of training and various therapies to aid recovery people may use. From what I have read over the 4 years I have been training it's between 2-4 days. If you're juicing, protein synthesis is increased so the muscle will recover much quicker, possibly 1-2 days which is why some of the pro's can train twice daily.
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    Originally Posted by I dont work at Ballys View Post
    yeah, the only way i can see it taking much longer is if someone is suffering major adrenal fatigue and is starving themself.
    Oh, you mean women?
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    Allright, so taking a week off with plenty of rest and food, should be enough to be fully recovered, and have a fresh start again?

    This does basically say that you should train bodyparts 2 times a week, though longer if you train to failure, than a full week, correct?
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    Originally Posted by HolyMoly View Post
    Allright, so taking a week off with plenty of rest and food, should be enough to be fully recovered, and have a freash start again?

    This does basically say that you should train bodyparts 2 times a week, though longer if you train to failure, than a full week, correct?
    Depends on the bodypart too....
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    Originally Posted by W8isGR8 View Post
    I read a study at hypertrophy-research that mRNA transcription in the muscle is complete after 72 hrs
    I've seen that before, and actually bought those times completely a few years ago despite what my experience told me.

    But then saw some contradictory evidence such as:

    http://ajpcell.physiology.org/cgi/co...ull/285/2/C391

    http://www.freetrainers.com/FT/jsp/Tip65.jsp

    I'm absolutely convinced the wound healing model applies. The more damage you do, the longer it will take to recover. Seems like common sense, but that is not how it is looked at by some trainers.
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    Originally Posted by Defiant1 View Post
    I've seen that before, and actually bought those times completely a few years ago despite what my experience told me.

    But then saw some contradictory evidence such as:

    http://ajpcell.physiology.org/cgi/co...ull/285/2/C391

    http://www.freetrainers.com/FT/jsp/Tip65.jsp

    I'm absolutely convinced the wound healing model applies. The more damage you do, the longer it will take to recover. Seems like common sense, but that is not how it is looked at by some trainers.
    So I should inject neosporin
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    This could get interesting... lol

    I can see this turning into a "train muscles once vs twice per week" sort of thread.
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    Originally Posted by Defiant1 View Post
    I've seen that before, and actually bought those times completely a few years ago despite what my experience told me.

    But then saw some contradictory evidence such as:

    http://ajpcell.physiology.org/cgi/co...ull/285/2/C391

    http://www.freetrainers.com/FT/jsp/Tip65.jsp

    I'm absolutely convinced the wound healing model applies. The more damage you do, the longer it will take to recover. Seems like common sense, but that is not how it is looked at by some trainers.
    Logical only now is the question, what type of training does the most damage to the muscles..

    I mean olympic lifters can train more frequent, because they don't train the negative part of the lift a lot and avoid going to failure.

    But someone who trains to failure should rest longer because of CNS recovery..

    Than there is volume and intensity ect..

    But let's just keep it to bodybuilding type of workouts
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    Originally Posted by W8isGR8 View Post
    So I should inject neosporin
    I'll bet someones tried it.
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    Originally Posted by HolyMoly View Post
    Logical, only now is the queston, what type of training does the most damage to the muscles..

    I mean olympic lifters can train more frequent, because they don't train the negative part of the lift a lot and avoid going to failure.

    But someone who trains to failure should rest longer because of CNS recovery..

    Than there is volume and intensity ect..

    But let's just keep it to bodybuilding type of workouts
    Eccentric work obviously, stretch position stuff(i.e SLDL's)
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    Originally Posted by Defiant1 View Post
    I'll bet someones tried it.
    However, these antibiotics are generally only used topically, because they are known for causing serious side effects (such as nephrotoxicity) when used parenterally.
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    Originally Posted by HolyMoly View Post
    Logical only now is the question, what type of training does the most damage to the muscles..

    I mean olympic lifters can train more frequent, because they don't train the negative part of the lift a lot and avoid going to failure.

    But someone who trains to failure should rest longer because of CNS recovery..

    Than there is volume and intensity ect..

    But let's just keep it to bodybuilding type of workouts

    You are looking for a concrete answer where there is none. Which brings us back to:

    Originally Posted by Defiant1 View Post
    Honestly, it depends on how much you did, and what kind of condition you are in.
    Most people increase training volume and decrease frequency as they progress.

    Whatever the EXACT recovery time is, this seems to work well.
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    Originally Posted by W8isGR8 View Post
    However, these antibiotics are generally only used topically, because they are known for causing serious side effects (such as nephrotoxicity) when used parenterally.
    Sheeyat.

    Do you think people taking insulin/gh are going to worry about that ****?
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