UPDATED MEAL (RESPONSE #22)
I've been eating 2-3 tbsp of peanut butter with each of my six meals. I feel like I might be gaining fat but I'm sure it's just my mind playing tricks on me as my calorie intake even with the PB have been under control while bulking. Are there any detriments in eating so much peanut butter in one day ie, too much saturated fat? I just love it so much!
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10-29-2007, 11:37 PM #1
Can eating too much peanut butter (14+ tbsp a day) be bad for you?
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10-29-2007, 11:39 PM #2
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10-29-2007, 11:46 PM #3
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10-29-2007, 11:47 PM #4
Yeah here's what my diet looks like as of now. Note that prior to this, I was eating a healthy mix of almonds and peanut butter. Now it's like I'm addicted to peanut butter and I've been eating them like crazy!!! (Note that I substituted the 2.33 tbsp of peanut butter with 21 almonds before)
Meal 1 (9:30-10:30 a.m.)
6 egg whites
1 whole egg
1.75 tbsp PB
.5 cup oatmeal
2 tbsp raisins
1.33 cups spinach
Meal 2 (1:30 p.m.)
4 oz chicken breast
2.33 tbsp PB
6.5 oz grapefruit
Meal 3 Pre-workout (4:30 p.m.)
4 oz chicken breast
2.33 tbsp PB
.5 cup oatmeal
1 cup broccoli
Meal 4 Post-workout (7:00 p.m.)
6 oz chicken breast
3/4 cup oatmeal
2 tbsp raisins
Meal 5 (9:30 p.m.)
4 oz chicken breast
2.33 tbsp PB
.25 cup oatmeal
1.5 cup broccoli
Meal 6 (11:30 p.m.)
4 oz chicken breast
2.33 tbsp PB
1 cup broccoli
Macro Breakdown:
Carbohydrates: 225g
Protein: 189g
Fat: 85g
Total Calories: 2421Habit 1 - Be Proactive. The Programmer.
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10-29-2007, 11:51 PM #5
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10-30-2007, 12:00 AM #7Habit 1 - Be Proactive. The Programmer.
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10-30-2007, 02:41 AM #8
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14 tablespoons lets see here
thats 7 servings
and a serving yields about 200 calories
so ur getting 1400 calories from ur PB,
16g of fat x 7 = 112g of fat
are u playing in ur macros the fat u get from ur other foods and protein sources?
does about 120-140g of fat fit ur macros? if it doesnt then i would suggest u lower it and go with some alternatives such as almonds and olive oil's to get more omega 3's and balance out ur omega 3 and omega 6 fractions.. also consider maybe getting some cheeses, or fatty meats in ur diet to make up for this.. whole eggs and milk also work well..
just my 2 cents
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10-30-2007, 02:53 AM #9
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Yeah 14tbsp of PB is quite a bit of fat lol. I'd try reducing it to probably 10tbsp range max. Maybe 6-8 and add some 2% milk, beef etc to your diet as well.
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10-30-2007, 04:12 AM #10
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ur eating almost 1500 calories alone in peanut buter.... lol r u just not counting it in ur daily intake.. wtf
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10-30-2007, 05:13 AM #11
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10-30-2007, 06:05 AM #12
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Total Fat 2.5g 4%
Saturated Fat 0.5g 3%
Trans Fat 0g
Polyunsaturated Fat 0g
Monounsaturated Fat 1g
Cholesterol 65mg 22%
Sodium 180mg 8%
Total Carbohydrate 0g 0%
Dietary Fiber 0g 0%
Sugars 0g
Protein 23g 46%
thats from 4oz
since he eats about 20g of chicken that would prob yield about 15 max.. on top of that 100 or so he gets from PB alone and from his other sources of incompletes.. in other words A ****LOAD of fat
ive read on the main site that many bodybuilders only consume aroudn 40-65 even in some of layne's articles.. how true are these??
Fats- Fats are involved in hormone production and also have a protein sparing effect. About .3g-.4g per pound of bodyweight good fats are about all you need in the off season. I know a lot of guys that consume massive amounts of fat when bulking. My question is why? Your body can't do anything with the extra fat. If you are having trouble putting on weight take those extra calories and add them into your protein count for the day. If you are still having trouble making gains add more carbohydrates. They are both more usable by the body than fats and are more adept at helping the muscle building process. Only as a last resort would I add in extra fat.
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10-30-2007, 06:22 AM #13
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10-30-2007, 07:47 AM #14
I have to say that IMO that really is a horrible diet, especially for a young person (not in pre-contest mode I assume) presumably doing this for more than a few weeks. No variety, huge amounts of omega6, no omega3, not nearly enough fruit and veg. Blah.
And of course its probably closer to 4000kcal than 2500kcal.
EDIT: When I say 'horrible' diet, I do mean for someone looking to get fit and healthy. It is most likely still better than what many people eat. But still, I would personally think some 'junky' food in there would be actually be more healthy, simply from getting some variety.Last edited by Jules Verne; 10-30-2007 at 07:50 AM.
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10-30-2007, 07:53 AM #15
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You should take in more vegetables, and vary your sources of protein and carbs. Chicken Breast, and Oatmeal is fine, but try to get other lean proteins, and complex carbohydrates from things such as Sweet Potatoes, Brown Rice, Whole Grains, Legumes, Fish, Dairy (Optional), etc. Also 14 tablespoons of Peanut Butter is way too much in my opinion.
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10-30-2007, 09:01 AM #16
question:
I usually don't use a spoon to scoop out some PB, so I don't really know, exactly, if I'm taking in a tbsp, especially since it's hard to exactly level that off and then put it all in your mouth, since some stays on the spoon, etc..
I usually just take a butter knife, scoop some and eat it. I usually do this maybe 2 or three times in one setting, and do this maybe twice a day, is this too much?
so i'm basically, all day long, taking about 6 or 7 tbsp of PB. I do this once for a snack and another before bed.
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10-30-2007, 09:07 AM #18
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I had the same problem. So I took a tablespoon of peanut butter, scraped it off into a bowl and looked at it for a while. Then I spread it on a piece of toast and looked at that for a while. Once you do that, you'll be able to approximate how much a tablespoon really is when you use a knife.
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10-30-2007, 09:28 AM #19
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FWIW, most of my daily fats come from a tablespoon of peanut butter, 7 walnuts, and the olive/safflower oil or olive oil and butter (1 to 1-1/2 tablespoons) I might fry my dinner in (chicken breast, or turkey, or tilapia, or salmon). Sometimes, I might put a small amount (1/2 tablespoon) of olive oil in the oil/lemon dressing I make for my dinner salad (usually spinach and tomato).
If I've reached my fat limit for the day, it's no dressing on the salad (or just lemon, garlic, salt, and pepper), and broiled protein-source-of-choice.
14 tablespoons of PB strikes me as way too much. If you really need that much fat in your diet, replace some with olive oil and/or fatty fish and/or nuts.That which does not kill me makes me stronger.
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10-30-2007, 09:35 AM #20
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10-30-2007, 09:46 AM #21
Yep, it is important to watch that omega 6 to omega 3 ratio. If you enter your diet into www.nutritiondata.com, it will tell you your omega 6 and omega 3 totals (just make your whole diet a "meal" in the pantry).
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10-30-2007, 10:47 AM #22
What if I changed my meal to this? It's just exchanging peanut butter for almonds, same amount of fat in each meal. I don't see how switching fat sources changes anything except different foods, etc. The reason why I'm taking in so much fat (which some posters above asked) is that it slows down digestion of foods, thus lowering the GI of the meal. Another reason why I eat so many fats is, coming off the Cut Diet, it seems that fats help me stay fuller longer and I'd prefer eating fats over carbs anyway. I'm eating carbs surrounding my workouts only because it gives me more energy. I'm carb-sensitive so that's another reason why I'm eating more fats. On top of that, fats lower the acidity of the meal (possible pseudoscience) so there's less likely of fat gain while I'm bulking. I feel there's just too many reasons to avoid the amount of fat intake in my diet. So, how does my diet look now since I've substituted all that PB?
Meal 1 (9:30-10:30 a.m.)
6 egg whites
1 whole egg
15 almonds
.5 cup oatmeal
2 tbsp raisins
1.33 cups spinach
Meal 2 (1:30 p.m.)
4 oz chicken breast
3 oz. avacadoes
6.5 oz grapefruit
Meal 3 Pre-workout (4:30 p.m.)
4 oz chicken breast
2.33 tbsp PB
.5 cup oatmeal
1 cup broccoli
Meal 4 Post-workout (7:00 p.m.)
6 oz chicken breast
3/4 cup oatmeal
2 tbsp raisins
Meal 5 (9:30 p.m.)
4 oz chicken breast
21 almonds
.25 cup oatmeal
1.5 cup broccoli
Meal 6 (11:30 p.m.)
4 oz chicken breast
21 almonds
1 cup broccoliLast edited by Beansent; 10-30-2007 at 11:00 AM.
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10-30-2007, 12:14 PM #23
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10-30-2007, 12:53 PM #25
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10-30-2007, 01:49 PM #26
no it's not all i have, felt like just commenting on the PB.
yeah, your right, can't really tell whats on the knife to help. I just take a nice and scoop some out, like you would with a spoon. it varies, but i would think it's a tbsp, maybe a little bit more, who knows. I don't ever feel like getting exact with PB, cause not all of it comes off the spoon and do you level it or just scoop it with the tbsp??? too much of a judgement call lol.
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10-30-2007, 01:51 PM #27
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10-30-2007, 02:26 PM #29
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11-01-2007, 11:52 AM #30
I personally believe it's not necessary and highly overrated. I usually stop eating 2-3 hours before bedtime and can't complain about my results. Eating late at night also forces your body to use its energy on digestion. You sleep in order to recuperate from the day, so your body should be as relaxed as possible.
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