Haven't seen any threads on it yet, but there sure as hell will be soon probably, so I just thought I'd start the first one
It seems that Legal Gear has slapped a methyl onto 1-AD and will be selling it sometime soon. I'd like to hear peoples reaction to it, and let's try to keep the flaming of Legal Gear to a low boil, alright?
http://legalgear.com/buildMuscle/methyl1AlphaDh.htm
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Thread: Legal Gear: Methyl 1-Alpha-Dh
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07-13-2005, 11:52 PM #1He's out of his chains!!!
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Legal Gear: Methyl 1-Alpha-Dh
Last edited by UnleashedBeast; 07-13-2005 at 11:54 PM.
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07-14-2005, 12:23 AM #2UNPREDICTABLE
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Looks more interesting than M1P, however Ergo LMG is the way to go right now and I have plenty of bottles for a couple cycles!
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07-14-2005, 12:51 AM #3Registered User
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Looks like a blatent attempt to cash in on the 1ad name, does it even bare any cemical resemblence to 1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-diol?Originally Posted by UnleashedBeastHaven't seen any threads on it yet, but there sure as hell will be soon probably, so I just thought I'd start the first one
It seems that Legal Gear has slapped a methyl onto 1-AD and will be selling it sometime soon. I'd like to hear peoples reaction to it, and let's try to keep the flaming of Legal Gear to a low boil, alright?
http://legalgear.com/buildMuscle/methyl1AlphaDh.htm
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07-14-2005, 08:22 AM #4Registered User
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PA said it had to go through like 3 changes in the body to become the active steroid.
Tiger who?
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07-14-2005, 08:29 AM #5Registered User
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i agree, does sound like it is using the 1ad name to become "popular", anyone even know if this is methyl 1 test like?
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07-14-2005, 08:48 AM #7POWER!
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Looks like something for the alpha males in the misc section!
Lmao!
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07-14-2005, 09:16 AM #8CEO Molecular Nutrition
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Nope.Originally Posted by SwingGuru
17a-methyl-5-a-androst-1-en-3b,17b-diol
VP/SV (AND) 82-100 LA (ANA) 420
Standard: methyltestosterone (oral)Last edited by w_llewellyn; 07-14-2005 at 09:19 AM.
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07-14-2005, 09:22 AM #9CEO Molecular Nutrition
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Shoot. 7 ALPHA!?!
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You aren't saying what I think you are saying about LG's Methyl 1-Alpha-Dh?Originally Posted by w_llewellyn
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07-14-2005, 09:24 AM #11CEO Molecular Nutrition
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My guess is it still has decent, albeit far from 17a-methyl, oral potency. 1-AD has inherent anabolic activity, and the 7 methylation should increase oral BV, half-life and oral free % to some extent. I don't see this steroid needing to convert to a 3-one to be active. Would be better, but not necessary for activity. My guess based on structure anyway. Can't find any info on this specifically, and don't feel like digging.
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07-14-2005, 09:26 AM #12CEO Molecular Nutrition
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No, sorry. My ****up. They didn't list the structre on the site (I may have read too fast) and assumed is was 17alpha. It is 7 alpha. Very different. Though I doubt inactive.Originally Posted by secondsightAuthor, ANABOLICS 10th Ed., Sport Supplement Reference Guide
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07-14-2005, 09:32 AM #13CEO Molecular Nutrition
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The few instances you find of it, 7-methylation generally increases steroid potency considerably. Since 1-AD is inherently active, this product should have noticable potency. If it compares to things like Superdrol and Ergomax is anyones guess. I would think it isn't likely, but still expect it to be better than some 1st-2nd gen prohormones.
The thought that it would require several steps of conversion before it does anything is extremely unlikely.Author, ANABOLICS 10th Ed., Sport Supplement Reference Guide
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07-14-2005, 10:37 AM #14He's out of his chains!!!
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Damn, someone beat me to it!Originally Posted by binky
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07-14-2005, 11:11 AM #15
i don't know if you noticed,but they aren't saying what's in it.Just how many a day.Pretty funny..no,honestly im sure it will be some kind of etiocholane/cholene something or other like all the other progestin style products flooding the market..companies arent allowed to play with andro's obviously..unless they are non androgenic for the most part..superdrol just slipped through a legal loophole for now..so it's definitely not 1ad.
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07-14-2005, 11:21 AM #16Registered User
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Originally Posted by w_llewellyn
Here is what it is:
7a-Methylandrost-1-ene-3b-ol-17-oneTiger who?
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07-14-2005, 11:43 AM #17Calm like a bomb
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very interesting bill
i've posted something about this product before but nobody had any comment on it
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07-14-2005, 11:59 AM #18Enormous Member
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PA has said he wasn't exactly sure of the oral BV but he said it should be potent if it survives the chemical changes he feels are necessary.
Just on a side note, LG's sample stacks only show running this stuff for two weeks. A short run like that implies to me that the stuff is poison, works really well, or both.
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07-14-2005, 01:18 PM #19Registered User
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Why doesn't someone just come out with some 7,17alpha-dimethyl-1-Testosterone and be done with it. It isn't on the banned list. Sledge, anyone?
Tiger who?
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07-14-2005, 01:24 PM #20Resident Illini
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Originally Posted by SwingGuru
Good point Swing. PA made a similar mention to this idea as well. If the LG compound requires any steps to conversion, some company could simply produce 7, 17 alpha, improving vastly upon the LG product.
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07-14-2005, 01:25 PM #21Resident Illini
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I noticed this as well.Originally Posted by freakie
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07-14-2005, 04:39 PM #22CEO Molecular Nutrition
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Maybe I am not typing loud enough. IT DOESN'T NEED CONVERSION TO BE ACTIVE.
But it is no 7,17-dimethyl-1-test either. No data on it, but if Cheque Drops and Bolasterone are any clue, 7-17-dimethyl-1-test would be one nasty POTENT steroid.Author, ANABOLICS 10th Ed., Sport Supplement Reference Guide
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07-14-2005, 05:07 PM #23Registered User
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mIT
I expect the people at leagle gear to know what there doing besides, we all know we're going to be the first ones to try it when it comes out, but for right now, SUPERDROL, is king of the unbanned PH'S
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07-14-2005, 05:10 PM #24www.crexcel.net
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IT IS PLANT BASED LIKE 20H SO IMO IT WILL SUCK ASS!!!! FROM WILD YAM I BELIEVE.Originally Posted by Maxmonster[ANS Performance Representative]
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07-14-2005, 05:13 PM #25Resident Illini
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ROFL, then Vyo-Tech it is.Originally Posted by dtrain13Last edited by Stuntdawg; 07-14-2005 at 05:16 PM.
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07-14-2005, 05:15 PM #26Resident Illini
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Just out of curiosity, is this new LG product out yet?
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07-14-2005, 05:16 PM #27C6H13NO2
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THATS GONNA BE WICKED GOOD YO... I CANT WAIT TO TRY SOME WITH MY HIIT SALSA DANCING CARDIO.Originally Posted by dtrain13Free agent
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07-14-2005, 05:17 PM #28Resident Illini
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Originally Posted by pu12en12g
No doubt about that. You'll surely add 10-15 of lbm, while cutting body fat. That will be a sick cycle.
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No. However when it is released I may infact be making my first LG purchase. LOLOriginally Posted by Stuntdawg[ANS Performance Representative]
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OMG, has hell frozen over?Originally Posted by dtrain13
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