First a little bit about myself. I am 6'1" 265 pounds right now. Want to get down to 200 flat. I've been eating granola cereal, turkey, carrots, tuna and the occasional pretzels if i get super hungry. I run about 4 times a week for a little over a mile and a half. I also do a full body weight lifting routine that takes a few hours about twice a week. I plan on eventually cutting that up and doing a split but for now this is easier.
Anyways i know that your supposed to have whey protein post workout and that helps grow muscles right? I figure maybee i should start taking some so that my muscles grow faster and in turn lose weight faster.
So for the question. How much should i take and what brand should i buy. Im far from a bodybuilder so i dont need anything real expensive. I just want allot of protien for cheap. And do you take it with water or milk or do you make a shake or whats the deal? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated because i dont really know anything.
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07-13-2005, 06:44 PM #1
Started lifting again. How much protein?
It's a transformation bitches!
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07-13-2005, 06:46 PM #2
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07-13-2005, 06:47 PM #3
What the flying ****. If you dont want to help then stay out of my threads.
Im just trying to not be a fatass the rest of my life and i cant seem to get any help on it. Theres so much ****ing information out there i dont even know where to begin. If its too much work to answer the question then dont bother.It's a transformation bitches!
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07-13-2005, 06:49 PM #4
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07-13-2005, 06:54 PM #5
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07-13-2005, 06:56 PM #6
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07-13-2005, 07:04 PM #7
Well i know about that protein finder. Only thing is there asking how many grams and how much fat and i dont know enough about any of that. And i searched for the word protein and was not suprised to find that every thread ever made on this site had the word protein in it. lol
It's a transformation bitches!
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07-13-2005, 07:05 PM #8
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Serious man. Dont come on here asking numerous questions when u could just search and find them all. Also dont ever f^cking come on these boards and start cussing at users here EVER- at this point i would say u deserve to be a fat ass.
Peace
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If u rep me and i like u enough, i will print your name on the cave wall for the aliens to find.....then maybe they will think u were an important person............
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07-13-2005, 07:12 PM #9
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07-13-2005, 07:15 PM #10
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/whey.html
Ok someone told me that stuff is supposed to be good. Thats fine.
I cant believe there is no sticky for protein. I said i try and search for protein and i get tons of threads that just have the word protein in it.It's a transformation bitches!
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07-13-2005, 07:22 PM #11
let me help u out
OK first buy some micronized creatine, buy glutamine, amino acids, fish oil, and u are gonna be eating 6 or more times a day every three hours u wanna be dedicated, u have to put ur alarm at 3 am and have a damn shake ( the best is i****trix) its hard to find they are trying to take it off the market but try hard i found it
wake up shake 7 am
9 am glutamine 5 gm
work out (during take 10 gm glutamine)
post work out micro creatine and glutamine, yes mix it is a bomb
during the day pop some fish oil pills to keep your joints functioning propertly
and there u have it take the shake 3 times a day smalls meals 6 or more a day LEAN not FAT
i hope i helped if i did give me some possitve ++++++ ratinfsIF I CAN DO IT U CAN TOO!!! KEEP IT UP FELLAS STAY IN SHAPE<KICK SOME ASS> AND DO SOME ABS+
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07-13-2005, 07:27 PM #12Originally Posted by <^>
Is it... could it be..... that time again already ? ?
It ISSSS ? ? ?
Diet:
-Total daily calorie intake. This is what will make / break you
-Total daily calorie intake. This is what will make / break you
-Total daily calorie intake. This is what will make / break you
- BMR and nutrition calculator (click here)
- Total Daily Protein Intake (for best results I recommend AROUND 2g per lb of bodyweight)
- Fatloss basics. READ IT:
- Foods (Good vs. Bad):
- If there was ONE SINGLE KEY to the gains I made in the 1 1/2 years when I went from 175-225 (my best.. leanest gains), it is OATS / STEEL CUT OATS ! The emphasis here is that oats / steel cut oats are a INEXPENSIVE, HEALTHY, yet VERY CALORIE DENSE FOOD. I saw lean gains like I had never seen before. But NO THEY DON'T TASTE GOOD. YOU HAVE TO FORCE FEED THEM. This gets old fast. I added about 1 cup of oats to each protein shake.
When bulking, I aim for:
- 1lb lean beef per day
- 1 Gallon Skim Milk per day
- Around 2000 cals per day from oats
- Lots of protein shakes (up to 8 per day)
- Lean chicken
- Lean turkey
- Lean beef / sloppy Joes (manwich)
- Hamburger Helper
- Lots of pasta
- Lots of tuna
- Potatoes
- Rice (Note: If you can afford it you can do things like boneless chicken breast, steaks etc.. etc..)
- Veggies (Fresh if possible)
When cutting:
- I eat many of the same foods above, but with a lower TOTAL DAILY CALORIE INTAKE
- I put a emphasis on PRE- and POST-workout nutrition, and the end result is that most of my calories are eaten before my afternoon workout. I have found this to be ideal (for me).
Supplements:
- SAVE $$$$$ ! ! STICK WITH THE BASICS ! ! )- Stay on creatine, there is no need to cycle it ! (cycling and loading are totally optional)
Multivitamin
10 lb bags of Optimum Whey Protein (This includes a great BCAA profile AND glutamine) (Note: I recommend Choc / Choc Mint only)
Creapure Creatine or Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL
Cold Pressed Flaxseed oil (and / or fishoil
- Creatine timing (when / how to take it):- For best results, aim for AROUND 2g of total daily protein intake per lb of bodyweight EVERY SINGLE DAY ! !
Example:
Bodyweight: 200lbsHere is why:
Total daily protein intake: 400g
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...oprejudice.htmhttp://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=392907
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=337536
Workout / Routine:
- I recommend a MAX-OT, HST (or similar) routine with a EMPHASIS ON:- Squatting / Leg pressing- Concentrate more on measurements and less on bodyweight
- Deadlifts
- Barbell benchpress (Including flat / decline / incline)
- Weigh yourself once a week. Should gain (or lose) around 1lb per week (depending on goals).
- Concentrate on form first, in order to stay injury free
- With intensity, strength gains, and a proper bodybuilding diet, the size gains (or fatloss) will come
- Make sure and have a spotter when working out your major muscle groups, preferrably someone bigger than you
- Don't be scared of overtraining. Simply listen (pay attention) to your body, and ask more questions later if you think you are overtraining.
Cardio:
- If possible, do cardio at least 8 hours from when you lift weights
- If possible, do cardio in the AM after sleeping.
- No need to do cardio on a empty stomach, but many prefer to due to nausea
- Jumping rope is a very efficient form of cardio
- HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) is a efficient form of cardio
Recovery (A.K.A GROWTH !):
- With proper intensity MUST COME PROPER RECOVERY !
- Make sure and get enough protein right before you go to sleep.
- Make sure and get enough protein/carbs right when you wake up
- Make sure and get enough deep, quality sleep (Not getting enough quality sleep is the #1 newbie mistake. You should aim for at least 8 QUALITY hours of sleep per night):http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...sleep_1_pr.htm- Make sure and get enough protein / calories on off days (This is when your body will be recovering) It is important to be consistent !
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...sleep_2_pr.htm
- Make sure and get proper pre and post-workout nutrition:Carbs pre and post workout.
Protein pre and post workout.
Creatine pre and post workout:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=272067
H20 / Cell volumization:
- Make sure and drink enough water throughout the day (This is CRITICAL ! !) I drink about 1 liter per hour. (Keep in mind I am currently over 220lbs so you may not need this much) Click here to read about why this is SO IMPORTANT:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=332329Good luck !
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....le=301stretch2
http://www.biochemj.org/bj/313/0697/3130697.pdf
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/author22.htm
Disclaimer: The above post is IN MY OPINION, or IN MY EXPERIENCE, unless otherwise noted.Free agent
Research and Development Consultant
11+ Years Experience
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07-13-2005, 07:27 PM #13
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07-13-2005, 07:38 PM #14
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07-13-2005, 07:52 PM #15
Listen to PU12 man. He knows his sh*t BIG TIME (hehe.. he's prolly tired of me saying that ).
18 years old
5' 11"
186lbs
bench- 320x5
Mil. Press- 220x4
Leg Press- 680x8
Curl- 65
Straight/EZ bar curl- 130
Hamstring Curl- 180x10
Row- 180x8
Pulldowns- 220x4
8.5% BF
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Now: 22.5
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 212
Lift:
Dumbell press: 190lb x8
Dumbell curl: 130lb x8
Machined bp: 380lb x8
12%bf
Airborne, ALL THE WAY
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