The Official Toronto Raptors Thread

anonymous · 07-03-2012, 05:06 PM

^^ lol someone's optimistic.

Honestly, I lost a lot of hope back when Mitchell was fired. Brb, firing a coach cause he's 8-9 but was coach of the year the season before.

We haven't been close to being a .500 team ever since. Raps need an overhaul imo

**Greg1983** · 07-03-2012, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by G00S3

^^ lol someone's optimistic.

Honestly, I lost a lot of hope back when Mitchell was fired. Brb, firing a coach cause he's 8-9 but was coach of the year the season before.

We haven't been close to being a .500 team ever since. Raps need an overhaul imo

Mitchell's a bum. Probably better than Triano of course, but that's not saying much. Casey takes a fat dump on both of them.

And coach of the year is a joke award anyways.

**LongLefty** · 07-03-2012, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by G00S3

^^ lol someone's optimistic.

Honestly, I lost a lot of hope back when Mitchell was fired. Brb, firing a coach cause he's 8-9 but was coach of the year the season before.

We haven't been close to being a .500 team ever since. Raps need an overhaul imo

Mitchell was a great players coach, but a horrid X's and O's coach, along with Butch Carter. Players sorta lose respect in a coach when at the end of a game, the assistants are doing more strategic planning, than the head coach.

We don't have the 1 vs 1 talent we had on Mitchell's/Carter's teams, but the players are buying into whatever Casey is coaching/teaching them which is way more important IMO. Here's a system, and identity, now play, no making $hit up as we go along. He'll get more out of lesser talent, kinda like Jerry Sloan got out of some of his role players back in the day.

I remember when we traded Camby for Oakley I was like WTF at first, then later realized that his toughness gave the Rap's a measure of respect around the league. Camby may have blocked 3/game, but to some opponents, the thought of an Oakley forearm to the head/chest, helped the Raptors porous D and rebounding, way more on that end IMO. I'm seeing the same sorta thing in Casey, he's got the team in a mindset, and it looks to me that opponents are more willing to settle for a jumper against us than they once were.

**FryDude** · 07-04-2012, 10:45 AM

Michael Grange ********@michaelgrange
#Raptors Colangelo still hopeful regarding Steve Nash says: "We gave it our best shot" #NBA

Could prove to be the demise of the worst GM in the league.

**1stChanceToLose** · 07-04-2012, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by FryDude

Michael Grange ********@michaelgrange
#Raptors Colangelo still hopeful regarding Steve Nash says: "We gave it our best shot" #NBA

Could prove to be the demise of the worst GM in the league.

luls i remember when we first signed the guy... "best GM in the league"

**FryDude** · 07-04-2012, 11:08 AM

[QUOTE=1stChanceToLose;910270283]luls i remember when we first signed the guy... "best GM in the league"[/QUOTE

7 years later and we're still in the Babcock era of basketball win wise.

**Carbonfibre** · 07-04-2012, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by FryDude

Michael Grange ********@michaelgrange
#Raptors Colangelo still hopeful regarding Steve Nash says: "We gave it our best shot" #NBA

Could prove to be the demise of the worst GM in the league.

lol what a clown.

offers huge contract to chucker Fields instead of throwing everything to get Nash.

**FryDude** · 07-04-2012, 11:21 AM

He handicapped himself by trying to force Nashs hand by taking NYK out of a S&T

Bruce Arthur ********@bruce_arthur
The question for the organization will be this: how many times can Bryan Colangelo roll the dice, and come up empty?

haha

**IceCoal** · 07-05-2012, 03:53 PM

BC done redeemed himself with the Kyle Lowry trade. Great for our team, we were trying to acquire him before the draft deadline and the trade price was fair.

Lotta ppl on d2jsp saying its gonna be forsure a playoff team atleast and we still have room to make more moves if we decide to amnesty Jose. Dunno what's left on the FA/trade board though.

**nvrstopworking** · 07-05-2012, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by IceCoal

BC done redeemed himself with the Kyle Lowry trade. Great for our team, we were trying to acquire him before the draft deadline and the trade price was fair.

Lotta ppl on d2jsp saying its gonna be forsure a playoff team atleast and we still have room to make more moves if we decide to amnesty Jose. Dunno what's left on the FA/trade board though.

There's a rumour around that we might do a swap with Philly... Jose, Ed, DD for Iggy, Vuc.

IF that comes to pass I'd say that it might be BC's most successful summer as Raps GM.

PG - Lowry
SG - Fields
SF - Iggy
PF - Bargs
C - Val

6th man: Ross

That lineup has some potential IMO.

**IceCoal** · 07-05-2012, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by nvrstopworking

There's a rumour around that we might do a swap with Philly... Jose, Ed, DD for Iggy, Vuc.

IF that comes to pass I'd say that it might be BC's most successful summer as Raps GM.

PG - Lowry
SG - Fields
SF - Iggy
PF - Bargs
C - Val

6th man: Ross

That lineup has some potential IMO.

sounds real good but why would they trade AI after having a successful playoff run last year and looking full of promise? took Celtics to 7.

that and DD and Ed are one of the two vocal pro-toronto players on the team lulz.

Nash not signing with Toronto even tho he had other legit reasons to sign with LA gotta be a another big blow to the bad rep Toronto has as a desirable city to play for.

**FryDude** · 07-05-2012, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by IceCoal

sounds real good but why would they trade AI after having a successful playoff run last year and looking full of promise? took Celtics to 7.

that and DD and Ed are one of the two vocal pro-toronto players on the team lulz.

Nash not signing with Toronto even tho he had other legit reasons to sign with LA gotta be a another big blow to the bad rep Toronto has as a desirable city to play for.

Being pro-toronto means nothing when one supposed 2 guard has no discernible 2 guard qualities and the big can't go right and is as skinny as me. I'll take the allstar every time.

**Otaman** · 07-05-2012, 08:17 PM

**Ganjamayne** · 07-05-2012, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Otaman

lol I saw this on realGM, I wouldn't mind Morrison actually. Under Casey's defensive system, might make him a better defender. He gets a lot of unnecessary hate.

**Greg1983** · 07-05-2012, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Ganjamayne

lol I saw this on realGM, I wouldn't mind Morrison actually. Under Casey's defensive system, might make him a better defender.

Negged.

**Ganjamayne** · 07-05-2012, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by Greg1983

Negged.

**AirCanada** · 07-05-2012, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by nvrstopworking

There's a rumour around that we might do a swap with Philly... Jose, Ed, DD for Iggy, Vuc.

IF that comes to pass I'd say that it might be BC's most successful summer as Raps GM.

PG - Lowry
SG - Fields
SF - Iggy
PF - Bargs
C - Val

6th man: Ross

That lineup has some potential IMO.

Our perimeter defense will be fantastic with Lowry/Ross/Iggy + Casey coaching. If Val is decent on the defensive end, we'd probably be a top 6 defensive team. (We were top 12 this year with fukking Jose starting).

**LongLefty** · 07-06-2012, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by nvrstopworking

There's a rumour around that we might do a swap with Philly... Jose, Ed, DD for Iggy, Vuc.

IF that comes to pass I'd say that it might be BC's most successful summer as Raps GM.

PG - Lowry
SG - Fields
SF - Iggy
PF - Bargs
C - Val

6th man: Ross

That lineup has some potential IMO.

It does, but I don't see the trade with Philly happening until Dwight finally makes his friggin' mind up. Apparently Philly is trying to make a run also.

Originally Posted by IceCoal

sounds real good but why would they trade AI after having a successful playoff run last year and looking full of promise? took Celtics to 7.

I know it doesn't make sense, but AI caused some in house friction a few times last year, also believe it or not, Jrue is asking for a max contract lolol. But it does look like they want to trade AI, and I was pretty sure it was going to happen last year (but they had a great run going) when out of the blue, Evan Turner went from playing say 15mpg, to over 40, overnight. Philly's strength was being able to bring Lou Williams and Thaddeus Young in off the bench, and my guess is they want them to start this year, seeing as they have to shell out some $$ to keep Jrue and drop someone some salary (though Jose's expiring contract is attractive)

Originally Posted by FryDude

Being pro-toronto means nothing when one supposed 2 guard has no discernible 2 guard qualities and the big can't go right and is as skinny as me. I'll take the allstar every time.

x2, DeMarr is just too frustrating to watch on the defensive end, and Ed progress is getting there, but I was expecting his game would be a little better than it was right out of college.

Originally Posted by AirCanada

Our perimeter defense will be fantastic with Lowry/Ross/Iggy + Casey coaching. If Val is decent on the defensive end, we'd probably be a top 6 defensive team. (We were top 12 this year with fukking Jose starting).

lol, don't forget DD starting either. Don't know how we were such a good defensive team, with such poor rebounding at times. Meh

Sometimes the best defence is played on the offensive end, picking up fouls on the other teams key players, and having them sit. Other than Barg's, nobody on the team ever does this (especially Amir, and his lack of any resemblance of an offensive game). So when the other team is allowed to be totally aggressive on D, not having to worry about picking up cheap fouls, our offense has to grind out each play pretty much, and the defence has to grind it out vs the other teams top players throughout the WHOLE game.

I'm just curious as to why Houston is parting with Lowry so easily. The kid was a monster last year (until he got hurt), and for Forbes and a protected pick I think, that's even better than giving up our 8th pick this year.

There's only a couple more moves I'd like to see BC make, and one is to hold on to Jose's expiring contract til the trade deadline, and pitch Bayless instead, and two, find a nice home for DD and Amir (especially his Yogi Stewart contract)

**LongLefty** · 07-06-2012, 04:05 PM

oh happy day, Raps pulled qualifying offer on Bayless, unrestricted free agent now ----------------->

**OnfiyA** · 09-16-2012, 01:06 PM

The future of the Raptors touched down in Toronto last night.

**StranBall** · 09-17-2012, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by OnfiyA

The future of the Raptors touched down in Toronto last night.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/Ia3l9.png/img]

**johnny-oh** · 10-10-2012, 05:55 PM

JV is making his Raps debut!

I dont get cable anymore. Somebody aware me as to how the team looks. Box scores just aren't the same

**StranBall** · 10-10-2012, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by johnny-oh

JV is making his Raps debut!

I dont get cable anymore. Somebody aware me as to how the team looks. Box scores just aren't the same

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/1459...o-raptors.html
he's looking pretty good, 2 blocks on Monroe. Drummond is looking better

**johnny-oh** · 10-10-2012, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by StranBall

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/1459...o-raptors.html
he's looking pretty good, 2 blocks on Monroe. Drummond is looking better

Thanks brah!

**johnny-oh** · 10-10-2012, 06:08 PM

The defence looks good. Even Jose is hustling lol.

**FryDude** · 10-10-2012, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by StranBall

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/1459...o-raptors.html
he's looking pretty good, 2 blocks on Monroe. Drummond is looking better

Monroe is the more fluid athlete and looks a lot better defensively because of it.

**CheeseSteak** · 10-10-2012, 06:23 PM

Go Raps!

**johnny-oh** · 10-10-2012, 06:35 PM

John Lucas III is actually impressing me. Jose to 3rd string?

**Zwicker** · 10-10-2012, 07:19 PM

What's the guesstimate for the regular season record? Pretty grim?

Originally Posted by CheeseSteak

Go Raps!

This! Why you no bills fan?

**johnny-oh** · 10-10-2012, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Zwicker

What's the guesstimate for the regular season record? Pretty grim?

I'm guessing 36-38 wins or so. 9th place in the east

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