The New Christian Thread

[Powerbuilt]

Good Evening Brothers,
What a great day!
Thanks, Clay, for all the info on prayer. Now to sit down and examine it, and apply it.

No problem. Like I said, everyone is different or has a different emphasis on faith. There really is no wrong way to pray, you just use common sense. I just like to have reverent heartfelt prayer.

[Powerbuilt]

I know this has nothing to do with faith, but I don't blog much anymore these days and I have to put it somewhere. I think when I start Rippetoe's, one of these days I keep telling myself I will, I'm going to start a new journal and it's going to be my workouts, daily ramblings, all kind of stuff, like a workout journal first and a blog second, then I can stop dumping my daily story in here.
-Will

I need to start documenting my lifts again to. I'm improving but it's sparatic and I'm not mapping the changes to optimize my routien.

What's very odd and making me want to document is I made these gains:
Last Month
Mill Press: 225X6
Squats (parrell): 390 for 2
SLDL: 365X2
DB SHoulder Press 90s for 8,6,4
DB Shrugs: 110s for 8,6,6
Incline DB Press: 110s for 8,6,6


This Month
Mill Press: 225X8
Squats (parallel): 405 for 2
SLDL: 405 MAX (felt easy though)
DB Shoulder Press 95s for 10,8,7
DB Shrugs: 125s for 8,6,6
Incline DB Press: 115s for 8,7,4

The funny thing is I am at 1,500 cals running at (95/5/10). Very little fat and carbs and almost all carbs are fibrous green and 50% of fat is EFA or Fish Oil. I know I should be dropping strength but I'm not at all. I'm getting small muscle pulls in my upper and lower back (normal for a hard cut) and my healing time has doubled from the calorie deficiency. I have lost 15 pounds of water weight (No carbs) and my muscles are deflated with little striations. On top of that my body temp is dropping and I'm walking around cold as a icecube (to the touch) from metabolism dropping. My labido is also crashed indicating test levels dropping from the very low fat.

To offset I have been popping 25 Aminos a day and hitting DHEA every meal with ZMA before bed to keep muscles from cannibalizing and keep test levels from tanking.

I should not be getting stronger and making the best gains in a year. My measurements are smaller but I'll pump back up to 230-235 once I have a few carb loading days.

[Forge3]

I should not be getting stronger and making the best gains in a year.

Faith can move mountains, Clay

[mandemuda]

i'm having a lot of problems getting over the girl that got me into the church and christianity, 'cause at first i just went with her in hopes of becomming her bf, she then turned out to have a thing with my friend and things got ugly beneath the surface.

every time i see her(pretty much daily) i die inside so to speak, i want her so bad, but she doesn't have any interest at all so i should forget her and move on, but that's so hard when she's both in my class and in my church and ll friends are mutual....

[Powerbuilt]

Faith can move mountains, Clay

It's just odd that everything I'm doing it textbook mass / Strength loss cutting but I'm seeing massive improvements. Well they are massive improvements when you inch along because your getting close to hitting 75-90% of your genetic ceiling.

My body is very odd though. The bodybuilding prototype was given to me by Porter Cottrell, Former Mr. Olympia contestant and IBBF Pro. My heart rate is only 48 beats per minute (75-90 is average, 60-70 is low). This makes my metabolism very slow. Doctors were baffled on how my heart rate is so low but my limbs were never numb and I was able to maintain normal body heat.

I weigh 230-235 pounds. My Competition weight is 200-206 at 5%
A 204 BBer usually consumes 3500 - 4,000 calories on a bulk and 2500+ calories on a cut.
I can gain mass at 2000 cals and on a cut I start with 1,500 cals resulting in 1-2 pounds of fat loss a week. In three weeks my metabolism will adjust and I will lose nothing. Then I have to adjust by doing a 3 day carb load then drop to 1,000-1,200 cals. That's less then a buck-ten girl eats.

I will lose about 3 pounds a week without loosing much mass at all. I'll stop loosing fat at 5-6 weeks. I'm talking about eating all complex carbs with a GI less then 64 and nonsaturated fats. 150 -200 calorie meals.

I showed Porter and he said he's never seen a metabolism that low. Secondly my body has an affinity for raw mass. Mass gains always came easy despite the rock bottom nutrient intake.

To add insult to injury, I use to weigh 325 pounds and I have an eating disorder left over from my fat days that I will battle the rest of my life.

[Powerbuilt]

i'm having a lot of problems getting over the girl that got me into the church and christianity, 'cause at first i just went with her in hopes of becomming her bf, she then turned out to have a thing with my friend and things got ugly beneath the surface.

every time i see her(pretty much daily) i die inside so to speak, i want her so bad, but she doesn't have any interest at all so i should forget her and move on, but that's so hard when she's both in my class and in my church and ll friends are mutual....

How old are you?

[Forge3]

It's just odd that everything I'm doing it textbook mass / Strength loss cutting but I'm seeing massive improvements. Well they are massive improvements when you inch along because your getting close to hitting 75-90% of your genetic ceiling.

My body is very odd though. The bodybuilding prototype was given to me by Porter Cottrell, Former Mr. Olympia contestant and IBBF Pro. My heart rate is only 48 beats per minute (75-90 is average, 60-70 is low). This makes my metabolism very slow. Doctors were baffled on how my heart rate is so low but my limbs were never numb and I was able to maintain normal body heat.

I weigh 230-235 pounds. My Competition weight is 200-206 at 5%
A 204 BBer usually consumes 3500 - 4,000 calories on a bulk and 2500+ calories on a cut.
I can gain mass at 2000 cals and on a cut I start with 1,500 cals resulting in 1-2 pounds of fat loss a week. In three weeks my metabolism will adjust and I will lose nothing. Then I have to adjust by doing a 3 day carb load then drop to 1,000-1,200 cals. That's less then a buck-ten girl eats.

I will lose about 3 pounds a week without loosing much mass at all. I'll stop loosing fat at 5-6 weeks. I'm talking about eating all complex carbs with a GI less then 64 and nonsaturated fats. 150 -200 calorie meals.

I showed Porter and he said he's never seen a metabolism that low. Secondly my body has an affinity for raw mass. Mass gains always came easy despite the rock bottom nutrient intake.

To add insult to injury, I use to weigh 325 pounds and I have an eating disorder left over from my fat days that I will battle the rest of my life.

You are an oddball Clay

In a good way

I had an eating disorder for a while. I am pretty sure I licked it though. It was a real downer while it lasted.


Hey, I have something I want you to check out. remeber how you visualized me differently from our talks. Well, this thread may put it into perspective.

Enjoy:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...errerid=314325

Should it be a sticky :P

Btw, I'm still stockpiling the names and E-addresses. I haven't gotten blues and a few others yet.


Peace.

[saloman]

Nice transformation Forge

[Forge3]

Nice transformation Forge

Hey Saloman, I spent my novitiate year in Victoria Kansas. There is a small German town with a huge Cathedral in the center. The church is made of quarried limestone from the turn of the century and called Cathedral of the Plains. That is the Capuchin Friary where I spent my novitiate year in the 90s. Did you evr hear of it. It is the same area where the movie Paper Moon was filmed in the early 70s with Ryan and Tatum O'neil.


Check it out the cathedral:

www.kansastravel.org/cathedralofheplains.htm

[jake24]

And Xerroxed, I'll PM them.



Peace.

Hey Forge I got a few more people you might try to get in on our little prayer groupStronginchrist) and (Jsewello203)

[Powerbuilt]

Hey Forge I got a few more people you might try to get in on our little prayer groupStronginchrist) and (Jsewello203)

I really like Stronginchrist. He's a good guy. Don't see him much as I use to though..

Nice transformation Mark. You and I both did one but from opposite ends of the scale.

Nice work!

[xer0xed]

What's your back workout like, Forge? That's some uber progress. =o

Btw, PB.... nice gains!

[KZinKC]

I admit, even though I haven't posted anything here until now, I have been following this thread off and on for some time. I had been trying to think how I could "break the ice," and become a part of the great convo's, discussions, and times of fellowship you all seem to have here. Forge, you have now caused me to go over the edge (in a good way).

I know exactly where Victoria, Kansas is, and have been there several times before. My grandparents actually farmed approximately 20-25 miles south of there, southwest of a small town named Bison. I spent a lot of time out there when I was growing up, and really miss that area alot. Even though many may not think so, I think its a really beautiful, unique area in the state of Kansas.

Just to introduce myself a little more--
I now live in Kansas City, and have been seriously lifting for around 4 years. I used to lift in college quite a bit, but jobs, moves, etc. interferred so much that I pretty much stopped for about 10-12 years. I mainly do it to try to stay healthy and in shape, and its also a great stress reliever!! More importantly, I am thankful for Christ, and what He has done in my life, in spite of who I am. His presence in my life has made all the difference--as I know most of you can testify to as well.

I am really looking forward to getting to know the rest of you, and chatting on here whenever I can. I know it will be a good time for sure. See you all later!!!!!

[Forge3]

What's your back workout like, Forge? That's some uber progress. =o

Btw, PB.... nice gains!

Lat Pull-down and Rows. I alternate which I start each session. And I cycle the intensity.

[Blau]

Nice to meet you KZ! Oh and to everyone, I'll send my email address soon, hopefully tommorow or sooner, I have to make one since I lost mine when I moved. KZ, you should join the prayer group.

[Forge3]

Nice to meet you KZ! Oh and to everyone, I'll send my email address soon, hopefully tommorow or sooner, I have to make one since I lost mine when I moved. KZ, you should join the prayer group.

No not another member. I'm starting to get overwhelmed


J/K

Will, you can reply back to me with your E-mail. Assuming you received the E-mail I sent you. I'll forward it to everybody else. I'm getting all the E-mail and will forward them back to everyone when the list is complete.

Hey KZ,

Peace.

[xer0xed]

Hey guys. Check out my vacuum fluctuation/quantum mechanics thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=890143.

I'm interested in your ideas/opinions.

[BMF_Dallas]

I admit, even though I haven't posted anything here until now, I have been following this thread off and on for some time. I had been trying to think how I could "break the ice," and become a part of the great convo's, discussions, and times of fellowship you all seem to have here. Forge, you have now caused me to go over the edge (in a good way).

I know exactly where Victoria, Kansas is, and have been there several times before. My grandparents actually farmed approximately 20-25 miles south of there, southwest of a small town named Bison. I spent a lot of time out there when I was growing up, and really miss that area alot. Even though many may not think so, I think its a really beautiful, unique area in the state of Kansas.

Just to introduce myself a little more--
I now live in Kansas City, and have been seriously lifting for around 4 years. I used to lift in college quite a bit, but jobs, moves, etc. interferred so much that I pretty much stopped for about 10-12 years. I mainly do it to try to stay healthy and in shape, and its also a great stress reliever!! More importantly, I am thankful for Christ, and what He has done in my life, in spite of who I am. His presence in my life has made all the difference--as I know most of you can testify to as well.

I am really looking forward to getting to know the rest of you, and chatting on here whenever I can. I know it will be a good time for sure. See you all later!!!!!

Nice to meet you. This thread is definitely bringing us forward in our faith...iron sharpens iron...it's good to have brothers to pray with and for and help hold one another accountable. I hope everyone has a great Labor Day weekend.

[Blau]

No not another member. I'm starting to get overwhelmed


J/K

Will, you can reply back to me with your E-mail. Assuming you received the E-mail I sent you. I'll forward it to everybody else. I'm getting all the E-mail and will forward them back to everyone when the list is complete.

Hey KZ,

Peace.

Sure man, the thing is, I'll need to register a new account. I'm going to get a temp. account through Yahoo or something like that tommorow and I'll send it to you. My old email account was through my isp and when we disconnected to move, it got deleted.

[jake24]

I admit, even though I haven't posted anything here until now, I have been following this thread off and on for some time. I had been trying to think how I could "break the ice," and become a part of the great convo's, discussions, and times of fellowship you all seem to have here. Forge, you have now caused me to go over the edge (in a good way).

I know exactly where Victoria, Kansas is, and have been there several times before. My grandparents actually farmed approximately 20-25 miles south of there, southwest of a small town named Bison. I spent a lot of time out there when I was growing up, and really miss that area alot. Even though many may not think so, I think its a really beautiful, unique area in the state of Kansas.

Just to introduce myself a little more--
I now live in Kansas City, and have been seriously lifting for around 4 years. I used to lift in college quite a bit, but jobs, moves, etc. interferred so much that I pretty much stopped for about 10-12 years. I mainly do it to try to stay healthy and in shape, and its also a great stress reliever!! More importantly, I am thankful for Christ, and what He has done in my life, in spite of who I am. His presence in my life has made all the difference--as I know most of you can testify to as well.

I am really looking forward to getting to know the rest of you, and chatting on here whenever I can. I know it will be a good time for sure. See you all later!!!!!

Great to have you in here.

[Forge3]

Update. Progress report.

I have E-mailed everyone, icluding the ones mentioned after and KC. I figure by mid next week I'll E-mail out a list of the all the E-mails/names who have signed up to everyone that did.

Sound Ok?

Morning Mike.

[jake24]

Update. Progress report.

I have E-mailed everyone, icluding the ones mentioned after and KC. I figure by mid next week I'll E-mail out a list of the all the E-mails/names who have signed up to everyone that did.

Sound Ok?

Morning Mike.

That sounds good..Good morning mark well actually good mid afternoon here were I am.

[Forge3]

That sounds good..Good morning mark well actually good mid afternoon here were I am.

It's 1pm now at my spot on the space-time continuum :P

[Uber-neggR]

Odd request, but is thiere anyone with an xbox360 on live? I say that because I just got xbox LIVE, and I would love to have a friends list consisting of my fellow christian brothers.

No offence to my fellow americans, but you have some seriously annoying kids on live. Not into the whole gaming online thing, but just thought I would try it.

Gamertag is: Christ Nature (wanted to use "Gideon", but that's been taken).

[saloman]

Hey Saloman, I spent my novitiate year in Victoria Kansas. There is a small German town with a huge Cathedral in the center. The church is made of quarried limestone from the turn of the century and called Cathedral of the Plains. That is the Capuchin Friary where I spent my novitiate year in the 90s. Did you evr hear of it. It is the same area where the movie Paper Moon was filmed in the early 70s with Ryan and Tatum O'neil.


Check it out the cathedral:

www.kansastravel.org/cathedralofheplains.htm

cool, nice looking church! I have not heard of it. I wonder how far that is from Kansas City?

[Health&vigor]

Hello Christian brethren!
I hope everyone is putting up a good fight!

[BMF_Dallas]

Good evening H&V. All is well and good to go. Have a great weekend.

[Forge3]

cool, nice looking church! I have not heard of it. I wonder how far that is from Kansas City?

Could be a few hours I guess. Kansas City wasn't too close. Seeing the Praying Mantis's was cool, in the church court yard, what an ideal place for them.

[Forge3]

Good evening H&V. All is well and good to go. Have a great weekend.

Glad to hear. Have a great Labor day weekend.

[unlucky13]

i'm a christian, but i can't stand going to church because I find it to be rediculously boring, is this ok?

shows our sinful nature....what is best for us we dont want but what isnt good for us thats what we want.....